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Its humiliating and soul-destroying to know that, whatever the promises or the links, Β in the last hour and minutes of the Transfer Window we'll be scrambling around trying to sign someone, anyone to get the numbers up.

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32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we dont have the possibility of paying transfer fees then obviously we massively reduce the quality available to us. There isnt a 100% correlation between cost and quality, but the less you have, the harder it becomes. It isnt a vain point of principle, and to be quite honest there is no excuse not to have money available for fees.

Its not about putting timescales on things either, but the sooner players are in, the better. Thats why Ismael is so keen. It gets players a full pre season whereby they not only miss a few games having been signed after the season starts, but you have the majority of your team from the start of an important pre season both fitness wise and in terms of the manager getting his tactical ideas across. You can sign quality early in the window if you are run properly, sadly we arent.

That being said, if you dont place any importance at all on when deals are done, then fine. At least it wont lead to you saying you want a certain number in by a certain point yet when that doesnt happen, still going around and dismissing other peoples criticisms contrary to that earlier demand.

The fact that it is in anyway a "Gestede show" scares me and the vast majority.

Obviously , if you're paying many millions for players then you can guarantee quality .

At the level Rovers and many others are at, you're just as likely, even more likely, to pickΒ  up a good player on a free. Josh Murphy is a perfect example, whether the recruitment department is up to it is another matter,I'll wait and see how Gestede does,Β 

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Just now, M_B said:

Obviously , if you're paying many millions for players then you can guarantee quality .

At the level Rovers and many others are at, you're just as likely, even more likely, to pickΒ  up a good player on a free. Josh Murphy is a perfect example, whether the recruitment department is up to it is another matter,I'll wait and see how Gestede does,Β 

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But not even "many millions." You are more likely to find a better player if you pay a million or two say compared to someone on a free. The 2 options arent freebies and big fees.

You look through the majority of those released and its because they are not very good, and the ones who are even half decent in this country will be able to demand an above average wage because so many teams will want them.

Posted
6 hours ago, Mercer said:

No debt on the club!?!?

What do you think the Β£135millionish is shown in the football clubs accounts owed to VLL and the Β£15millionish bank overdraft!?!?

Someone posted Middlesbrough will appoint a new manager before we sign a new player.Β  I will go a step further and state they will appoint a new manager and sign at least 1 new player before we sign anyone.

Many Rovers fans think the club is fecked and are sick to the back teeth of being fed, IMO, bullsh1t.

As I've said before Chaddy, stop making excuses for the club and stop trying to defend the indefensible.

They’ll probably appoint a manager, sign a player and Sack said manager before we pay a fee for a player!

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35 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But not even "many millions." You are more likely to find a better player if you pay a million or two say compared to someone on a free. The 2 options arent freebies and big fees.

You look through the majority of those released and its because they are not very good, and the ones who are even half decent in this country will be able to demand an above average wage because so many teams will want them.

Β It does, as I said, depend on how good, or not, your recruitment department is. Not paying a fee "should " mean more is available for wages which "should " mean you get better quality.

I would imagine there will be an emphasis on foreigners.Β 

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51 minutes ago, M_B said:

Β It does, as I said, depend on how good, or not, your recruitment department is. Not paying a fee "should " mean more is available for wages which "should " mean you get better quality.

I would imagine there will be an emphasis on foreigners.Β 

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Doesnt here unfortunately although even if we did want to be strong in the market of freebies, we would need to act quickly which we dont.

Posted
2 hours ago, M_B said:

Β It does, as I said, depend on how good, or not, your recruitment department is. Not paying a fee "should " mean more is available for wages which "should " mean you get better quality.

I would imagine there will be an emphasis on foreigners.Β 

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That increased wage that no fee brings just gets swallowed up by the player wanting a bigger wage because they know you're not paying a fee.

Posted
12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

You are just echoing Jackson's article and he is often just a bit of a club spokesperson.

The article was original from the Stoke on Trent live hence why I posted their article not Jackson article, clearly you didn't understand or as per usual you choose to ignore it cos it suit your argument as you do with other thingsΒ 

12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Other teams may have changed league or have had delays changing managers etc. We havent been in either bracket yet still almost always operate with delays. That is because of how terribly the club is run. I dont know if it is true that Suhail is in India but if so I bet the budget hasnt even been confirmed. This is a common theme here, our club isnt just in line with the standard, its behind.

But its about what you post, the same patterns. If you are so keen to point out that so many transfers are not done for pre season, then why every season do you suggest that we should be getting a certain number when you know it wont happen, before then gaslighting people as if you werent the main one asking for them in the first place?Β 

Firstly, I don't gaslight anyone so please stop with utter bullshit claims, you can't even answer the most basic of question so I suggested you stop going on and on time after time like you are the messiah on here.Β 

as the article I posted shows you that half of transfers happened in August last season for a range of different reasons but you won't accept that. You aren't going to sign all your players you want before pre season starts. Yes I have said it would be great to get a couple of players in before pre season like we did it before with 3 signings before so why not now

12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Surely a better stance at the start of the window would be to say that you dont expect anyone in for pre season as many transfers are done afterwards?Β 

I have said I expect couple of players in before the Spanish training camp which I have now said a couple of times so I can't be anymore clearly with you and others on here.Β 

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9 hours ago, M_B said:

Obviously , if you're paying many millions for players then you can guarantee quality .

At the level Rovers and many others are at, you're just as likely, even more likely, to pickΒ  up a good player on a free. Josh Murphy is a perfect example, whether the recruitment department is up to it is another matter,I'll wait and see how Gestede does,Β 

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We have billionaire owners and massive FFP leeway. Why aren't we pay millions of pounds and guarantee quality?

Venky's out.

Not a dig at you M_B because we have nearly all been battered into submission by 15 years of occupation.

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Is it Nixon story time yet? Which youth academy player is definitely out the door and which continental million plus pound player are we definitely in advanced super serious talks withΒ 

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Finishing 7th and avoiding the playoffs by 10 minutes is destined to become a highlight in the history of Blackburn Rovers Football Club, once that history is brought into context and perspective by the utter shite we are to be abused with in the coming months.

Let's face it, the minor miracle that was conjured up at the end of last season was very pleasant at the time, and served to paper over the very obvious cracks that had opened during the turbulent and bemusing campaign we had endured up to that point. But the reality is that the cracks remain, indeed they are showing signs of becoming dangerous rifts in the fabric of the club. There is nothing to suggest we will go into the new campaign even at parity, squad strength wise, to how we finished the last, with clear indications that some of our more saleable assets and those able to leave for free will be allowed to move on. I challenge anyone to set out any clear logic that says losing Brittain, Dolan, Tronstadt, Travis and Hyam makes us any stronger, but those are the names that appear to be on the 'available for transfer' notes doing the rounds.

The best we can hope for is that actually, Valerian Ismael is actually a minor miracle worker who is able to get the best from whatever ragbag of journeymen players he is presented with (in mid August), and that we beat some teams in the league simply by having a better looking kit that at least conjures some deep memory of substance and success.

The writing is on the wall. The walls are closing in. The walls, ladies and gentlemen, are about to tumble...

Feck the Venkys and their cronies.Β 

Long live the memories and achievements of the 150 year tradition of Blackburn Rovers. And remember, it is always darkest before the dawn.

VENKYS OUT!

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Posted
11 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Time to ask again.

Does anybody seriously think that they are going to be trying to sign players to strengthen the squad? Seriously?

Our best players are running out of contract and we can't even be bothered to sort them out, so I have doubts we will be doing much elsewhere.Β 

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Signing players later in the transfer window means we don't have to pay them through June and July, I'm sure this is a consideration by Suhail.

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12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Also @M_BΒ you downplay the importance of speed and downplay the importance of paying fees.

If you want the best freebies you have to act fast.

I'm not downplaying anything, if a fee is to be paid then happy days. It is the knocking of signing free agents that I'm talking about, when it is becoming a more and more important part of the process.Β 

Posted
4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

The article was original from the Stoke on Trent live hence why I posted their article not Jackson article, clearly you didn't understand or as per usual you choose to ignore it cos it suit your argument as you do with other thingsΒ 

Firstly, I don't gaslight anyone so please stop with utter bullshit claims, you can't even answer the most basic of question so I suggested you stop going on and on time after time like you are the messiah on here.Β 

as the article I posted shows you that half of transfers happened in August last season for a range of different reasons but you won't accept that. You aren't going to sign all your players you want before pre season starts. Yes I have said it would be great to get a couple of players in before pre season like we did it before with 3 signings before so why not now

I have said I expect couple of players in before the Spanish training camp which I have now said a couple of times so I can't be anymore clearly with you and others on here.Β 

I am well aware that all transfers wont be done by pre season.

I am also well aware that the main reason that we as a club are particularly slow in getting transfers done is because of how we are run.

We dont have a managerial change or a change in division like numerous other clubs do which will slow down their transfer dealings comparatively.

I would be (pleasantly) surprised if we have any deals done by the start of pre season. We should be able to get some deals done by then, not all of our business but a reasonable chunk, but I dont see it happening.

But its you that specifies how many you want and expect for pre season who is then the most keen of all to deflect and make excuses when it doesnt happen year after year. Without ever acknowledging the main reason which is us being owned by Venkys and run by imbeciles. You also shout down any others who criticise our slowness as if they are being unreasonable.

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22 minutes ago, M_B said:

I'm not downplaying anything, if a fee is to be paid then happy days. It is the knocking of signing free agents that I'm talking about, when it is becoming a more and more important part of the process.Β 

If its becoming a more important of the process then the club is seemingly ill equipped to take advantage due to internal delays and how slow we operate.

Its not a tactical choice with the thinking being that we can get more quality. Its purely a case of the owners being unwilling to reinvest money which is why people get so frustrated.

Posted
3 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

We have billionaire owners and massive FFP leeway. Why aren't we pay millions of pounds and guarantee quality?

Venky's out.

Not a dig at you M_B because we have nearly all been battered into submission by 15 years of occupation.

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Is our FFP leeway not affected by the fact the owner’s didn’t add any equity in the 23/24 financial year?

I thought this reduced the allowable loss for that year from Β£13 million to Β£5 million.

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