davulsukur Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Twitter rumour (so take it for what it is) gathering pace that Dolan will sign for Derby, along with Weimann and Batth. Quote
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DutchRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 16 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Twitter rumour (so take it for what it is) gathering pace that Dolan will sign for Derby, along with Weimann and Batth. Wouldn't be a surprise Quote
Torgeir Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Twitter rumour (so take it for what it is) gathering pace that Dolan will sign for Derby, along with Weimann and Batth. No surprise, at least we'll get a compensation for Dolan in that case. Survival signings. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago If Dolan goes to Derby itโs just for money I donโt want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc itโs purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldnโt get him to sign on 2 Quote
47er Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said: If Dolan goes to Derby itโs just for money I donโt want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc itโs purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldnโt get him to sign on What's wrong with that? Everything else seems too work on the basis of the free market---supply and demand. A footballer's life is a short one, why shouldn't he get the best deal he can? Not as if there's any reward for loyalty at Rovers these days is it? 3 Quote
Mercer Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: If Dolan goes to Derby itโs just for money I donโt want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc itโs purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldnโt get him to sign on and can you blame him? A manager he likes and respects and a club clearly with more ambition than Rovers who are backing their manager and making good on the promises made to him.ย A no brainer. 3 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: If Dolan goes to Derby itโs just for money I donโt want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc itโs purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldnโt get him to sign on Money is the driver to everything sadly. But I disagree on your comment about Eustace, I think he'll be one of the main reasons why he's go there...Otherwise, why else would he go? (No offence to Derby). He'll have plenty of suitors and bigger opportunities than them. I would have thought Sheffield united or West Brom would have been somewhere he goes.ย ย Let's see. 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Dolan is an honest pro and I don't blame him for seeking other adventures, and he'll probably start a lot of games under Eustace at Derby. Think he'll disappear like Nyambe did. 2 Quote
Damien Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, 47er said: What's wrong with that? Everything else seems too work on the basis of the free market---supply and demand. A footballer's life is a short one, why shouldn't he get the best deal he can? Not as if there's any reward for loyalty at Rovers these days is it? Why what on earth happens when they retire? Do they get taken out to pasture?ย ย 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: If Dolan goes to Derby itโs just for money I donโt want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc itโs purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldnโt get him to sign on Just for money? Derby are skint. The difference is their owner still wants them to progress and backs his manager as much as he can. There's no evidence other than the words of liars on the Venky payroll that any serious efforts have been made to keep any of our players. Most of the players have admitted this in public in the last few months. If we had really tried the odds suggest that at least one of them would have signed up. The fact that 0 have signed tells me that we aren't trying. 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, JHRover said: Just for money? Derby are skint. The difference is their owner still wants them to progress and backs his manager as much as he can. There's no evidence other than the words of liars on the Venky payroll that any serious efforts have been made to keep any of our players. Most of the players have admitted this in public in the last few months. If we had really tried the odds suggest that at least one of them would have signed up. The fact that 0 have signed tells me that we aren't trying. Gregg tried in 2023 and was told no because Dolan went solo and had no agent and then moved to a different agency people are right to jump ship from here I just find it laughable that Dolan in his interviews states about playing at the highest level etc and then moves to Derbyโฆ.only my opinion of course and at least we get compย Quote
JHRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Maybe these players fancy going to Derby because they loved working under Eustace last season, were gutted when he left and are keen to get back working with him? That would mean more serious and longer term consequences and implications to him moving to Derby but hey, at least we've now got 'alignment' between head coach and work experience head of football and some compo banked for Eustace and his staff Happy days indeed. 2 Quote
Herbie6590 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: people are right to jump ship from here I just find it laughable that Dolan in his interviews states about playing at the highest level etc and then moves to Derbyโฆ.only my opinion of course and at least we get compย Derby might be his highest levelโฆ 3 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, JHRover said: Maybe these players fancy going to Derby because they loved working under Eustace last season, were gutted when he left and are keen to get back working with him? That would mean more serious and longer term consequences and implications to him moving to Derby but hey, at least we've now got 'alignment' between head coach and work experience head of football and some compo banked for Eustace and his staff Happy days indeed. Not disagreeing Iโd say thatโs a fair assumption but my post is specific to Dolanโฆ.his interview about playing highest level and being more ambitious etc doesnโt scream Derby to meโฆbatth and weimann are in their last year/s of football so familiarity would be keyย Quote
arbitro Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago From tomorrow Rovers won't be paying the wages of the out of contract players including loans. How much will they be saving on the wages of Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis?ย Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Gregg tried in 2023 and was told no because Dolan went solo and had no agent and then moved to a different agency people are right to jump ship from here I just find it laughable that Dolan in his interviews states about playing at the highest level etc and then moves to Derbyโฆ.only my opinion of course and at least we get compย Perhaps the deal he was offered was not befitting of a player of his level. So many players here dont sign deals put in front of them (or the ones we even bother to do that) and his last contract was signed a good while ago when he has just broke through so it wouldnt be a surprise if it was a wage offered that was not reasonable and we havent bothered to offer one since. I still cant see him going to Derby personally. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, roversfan99 said: Perhaps the deal he was offered was not befitting of a player of his level. So many players here dont sign deals put in front of them (or the ones we even bother to do that) and his last contract was signed a good while ago when he has just broke through so it wouldnt be a surprise if it was a wage offered that was not reasonable and we havent bothered to offer one since. I still cant see him going to Derby personally. I have no doubt we havenโt or we have low balled him this isnโt a defence of rovers this is more a question on Dolan and whilst all players should be confident in their ability to play at a higher level I donโt think Derby would have been on his or his agents radar. I reckon they would have hoped for better in footballing terms. Financially heโs clearly going to be better off so good luck to himย Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Dolan was in the first team on ยฃ300 quid a week and i'd stake my house on he ain't on more than 3500k now and was offered nothing resembling a wage he can get elsewhere 2 years ago. Complete fantasy stuff that he'd turn down a big pay rise in order to sit out his contract FOR TWO YEARS, absolute nonsense. Fact is Rovers WILL NOT pay their academy grads a jump from small to big money the examples now are there for all to see. Good luck to him he might double his pay at Derby but still won't be on big money because they don't have it. However remember these players have seen the inside of Rovers they have dealt with the people there, they know what gets said inside the club and we don't. Where do you think Derby intend to try and head in the next few years as opposed to Rovers ? Again the evidence is rather obvious. 5 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 15 minutes ago, arbitro said: From tomorrow Rovers won't be paying the wages of the out of contract players including loans. How much will they be saving on the wages of Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis?ย ยฃ60-70k a week? 2 Quote
Mercer Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, arbitro said: From tomorrow Rovers won't be paying the wages of the out of contract players including loans. How much will they be saving on the wages of Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis?ย Including Employers' NI, would think about ยฃ60k per week. Quote
Forever Blue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago According to Derby ITKโs on twitter there has been no contact between Dolanโs agent and Rovers. No idea if thatโs true, but it would tie in with the emerging pattern that the club is not engaging with the higher earners over contract extensions, or those wanting to become the higher earners.ย ย ย 3 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Dolan was in the first team on ยฃ300 quid a week and i'd stake my house on he ain't on more than 3500k now and was offered nothing resembling a wage he can get elsewhere 2 years ago. Complete fantasy stuff that he'd turn down a big pay rise in order to sit out his contract FOR TWO YEARS, absolute nonsense. Fact is Rovers WILL NOT pay their academy grads a jump from small to big money the examples now are there for all to see. Good luck to him he might double his pay at Derby but still won't be on big money because they don't have it. However remember these players have seen the inside of Rovers they have dealt with the people there, they know what gets said inside the club and we don't. Where do you think Derby intend to try and head in the next few years as opposed to Rovers ? Again the evidence is rather obvious. I agree with all of the aboveโฆ.my point is Dolan and his agent Iโm assuming would have thought there would have been a better offer on the table than one from Derbyย Quote
arbitro Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: ยฃ60-70k a week? I had around ยฃ70k in mind too. 1 Quote
Mercer Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I agree with all of the aboveโฆ.my point is Dolan and his agent Iโm assuming would have thought there would have been a better offer on the table than one from Derbyย Let's not kid ourselves, Dolan's agent will have been a busy bee in recent weeks and maybe, just maybe, Derby is as good as it gets! 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I agree with all of the aboveโฆ.my point is Dolan and his agent Iโm assuming would have thought there would have been a better offer on the table than one from Derbyย Maybe there has been but at the end of the day if hes gone there for talks and been convinced by a manager he knows well and who knows him he might just feel that's the best place to take the next step. If Dolan is located in South Manchester/Cheshire he won't even need to move or not far at least as opposed to rumoured offers from Glasgow where a player like him could sink pretty quickly. Possibly Derby are his ONLY real serious option at this stage and the money isn't actually much more but it's easy to see why it's a better punt than Rovers right now. Quote
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