Ossydave Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Just watched a YouTube clip (i know), his year in review 2024, its actually frightening, just gives the ball away almost every attack π€£ Quote
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roversfan99 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Assuming any of these assumptions regarding him being in Manchester mean that we are signing him. Might depend on the circumstances. If he is a cheap permanent deal alongside a more proven wide man, a development project, can see some logic. If he is the only winger coming in and its him, Kargbo, De Neve and Hedges, its purely to build as cheap a squad as possible.Β If hes on loan like he was last season, pointless. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Apparently a loan to buy option..something Iβm not against personally as the option is there As for his ability Iβm not one for commenting on YouTube clips tbh we shall see but I still think we need a couple more proven/experienced players inΒ and of course the contract situations with the three players for me thatβs most important of the lotΒ 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Where is the loan to buy bit from? Surely he wouldnt cost much to buy. Loan screams barely plays and is never seen again. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 11 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Ok well remember that when others cast their concerns why we arenβt signing exactly what you have preferred - donβt come on calling them out itβs just their preference - itβs also a doubtΒ I agree we need some experience in the squad but there is nothing wrong with some signings from league 1 or overseas. Balance approachΒ 11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Its a fair point and one I agree with.Β At least πππ 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Assuming any of these assumptions regarding him being in Manchester mean that we are signing him. Might depend on the circumstances. If he is a cheap permanent deal alongside a more proven wide man, a development project, can see some logic. If he is the only winger coming in and its him, Kargbo, De Neve and Hedges, its purely to build as cheap a squad as possible.Β If hes on loan like he was last season, pointless. Why would we be signing another winger if this guy is sign? Surely 4 is enough?Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 poor val.im`e sure he did`nt realise what a ****show he`s ended up working in Quote
riverholmes Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Assuming any of these assumptions regarding him being in Manchester mean that we are signing him. Might depend on the circumstances. If he is a cheap permanent deal alongside a more proven wide man, a development project, can see some logic. If he is the only winger coming in and its him, Kargbo, De Neve and Hedges, its purely to build as cheap a squad as possible.Β If hes on loan like he was last season, pointless. Coming up through the ranks behind them are Stritch, Doherty and Mafoumbi - wingers who could barely muster 5 goals in the U21's season. They're young and may well improve but the standard is really looking weak. The new crop from U18s will come in too but, to my mind, the club had/have to invest in recruits specifically at U21 level to improve the standard. That said, Doherty and Mafoumbi were recruits, along with goalie, Barrett, last season. Edited July 6 by riverholmes Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: poor val.im`e sure he did`nt realise what a ****show he`s ended up working in Been here beforeβ¦.if he didnβt know thatβs on him should have done better researchΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Where is the loan to buy bit from? Surely he wouldnt cost much to buy. Loan screams barely plays and is never seen again. Seen it mentioned on Twitterβ¦.could be nonsense could be true likely find out tomorrowΒ Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 8 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: poor val.im`e sure he did`nt realise what a ****show he`s ended up working in To be fair if I didn't give a fuck about a club I'd happily work under these conditions for Β£350k a year too.Β 2 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Been here beforeβ¦.if he didnβt know thatβs on him should have done better researchΒ possibly,our esteemed owners more than likely told him a pocketful of lies about a substancial budget,they`ve kind of got form for itπ° Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Assuming any of these assumptions regarding him being in Manchester mean that we are signing him. Might depend on the circumstances. If he is a cheap permanent deal alongside a more proven wide man, a development project, can see some logic. If he is the only winger coming in and its him, Kargbo, De Neve and Hedges, its purely to build as cheap a squad as possible.Β If hes on loan like he was last season, pointless. At least three of them have some pace. Would be a big change for us, we're usually so pedestrian.Β Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said: possibly,our esteemed owners more than likely told him a pocketful of lies about a substancial budget,they`ve kind of got form for itπ° Your last line is why I have little to no sympathyβ¦they have form for it managers/agents talk he would have or should have known. Unemployed now getting paidΒ Quote
B16Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Are the Saudi's still pushing their youth players abroad? Maybe we've ended up with him comically cheaply... Quote
Mercer Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Apparently a loan to buy option..something Iβm not against personally as the option is there As for his ability Iβm not one for commenting on YouTube clips tbh we shall see but I still think we need a couple more proven/experienced players inΒ and of course the contract situations with the three players for me thatβs most important of the lotΒ Feck me, it's even worse than I thought. The bottom of the barrel has now been scraped off!!! IMO, the signing of cheap, unproven and little known players like De Neve, Tavares andΒ Al-Sahafi (if correct) is virtually consigning us to a fight for survival from the 1st game of the season. These sort of signings will do nothing to convince the likes of Brittain, Tavis and Tronstad that we are a club going places and therefore a club to commit their future to. Edited July 6 by Mercer 9 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 6 minutes ago, Mercer said: Feck me, it's even worse than I thought. The bottom of the barrel has now been scraped off!!! IMO, the signing of cheap, unproven and little known players like De Neve, Tavares andΒ Al-Sahafi (if correct) is virtually consigning us to a fight for survival from the 1st game of the season. These sort of signings will do nothing to convince the likes of Brittain, Tavis and Tronstad that we are a club going places and therefore a club to commit their future to. we be f*****d imo Quote
Upside Down Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said: poor val.im`e sure he did`nt realise what a ****show he`s ended up working in That's on himself TBF. It's obvious that something is going on when the last two guys in charge engineered a move elsewhere within 12 months of each other. I don't think it will be long before he does the same. 4 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) If these lads are squad fillers/ bench players, fair enough. If they are seen as genuine first teamers this season, we are fecked.. Edited July 6 by Wing Wizard Windy Miller 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: I agree we need some experience in the squad but there is nothing wrong with some signings from league 1 or overseas. Balance approachΒ At least πππ Why would we be signing another winger if this guy is sign? Surely 4 is enough?Β Its not just about having 2 warm bodies per position, we need sufficient quality. You concede that Al-Sahafi would be a risk. Out wide has been a weak position for a while and was an area we really needed to strengthen this summer. Im not saying either this Al-Sahafi (if there is truth in the rumour) or De Neve don't have ability and wont do well in time, but they are cheap, young punts and replace our only proven and competent winger. Al-Sahafi - his only football at a reasonable standard was half a season at a Belgian club that got relegated. He is 21 and would need time to settle.Β De Neve - quite young, has barely any goals or assists to his name, again relegated from the Belgian league and has often played at left back. Kargbo - barely been seen, but again we dont know what we have with him. Appears raw.Β Hedges - offers a similar attacking threat to Toth Thats not a set of wingers that would give me any sort of excitement or confidence. It would put untold pressure on the 2 newbies (one who has very little senior experience) settling into the country to hit the ground running. And it would inevitably mean that Hedges who even as his biggest fan you concede should just be a squad player will play week in week out. Get a Gassama or whatever on top of these and at least you could have some confidence in someone who has shown that he can perform well at this level. Putting less reliance on the cheap punts. I mean, we do have the Nixon warchest, right? 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 If there is any truth to Al-Sahafi. He was part of the Saudi Arabia squad at the Gold Cup until the 29th June so presumably his pre season involvement would be limited due to a potential holiday. Quote
roverandout Posted July 7 Posted July 7 He's probably more likely to be a ali dia than a delle alliΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 7 Posted July 7 8 hours ago, Mercer said: Feck me, it's even worse than I thought. The bottom of the barrel has now been scraped off!!! IMO, the signing of cheap, unproven and little known players like De Neve, Tavares andΒ Al-Sahafi (if correct) is virtually consigning us to a fight for survival from the 1st game of the season. These sort of signings will do nothing to convince the likes of Brittain, Tavis and Tronstad that we are a club going places and therefore a club to commit their future to. Like this time last year too 1 Quote
JBiz Posted July 7 Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Like this time last year too I bet you could find the exact comment in 2023 too Β β¦. followed by a βwe will win 3-0β prediction for the first game πΒ 3 Quote
JBiz Posted July 7 Posted July 7 17 minutes ago, roverandout said: He's probably more likely to be a ali dia than a delle alliΒ Quality transfer discussion once again. 1 Quote
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