2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[sharpysharps86]

I know its only Tuesday but you can tell this week is a stinker when the only news is Brittain supposedly having talks with Boro and Elliott's coverage in the LT is an interview with Bradley Dack 😂.

No disrespect to Dacky, love the guy...but it's not the news I want to see right now 😅.

[wilsdenrover]

16 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

They certainly don't seem to want the money back as things stand. However, if they got into financial trouble, or sold the club, I certainly don't believe they would treat it as though it doesn't exist.

Otherwise, they'd have written it off, as Jack used to do (pretty sure Wilsden is indeed remembering that correctly).

They absolutely won't get it all back (not unless by some miracle they turned us back into a steady Prem club maybe), but I bet they'd try to extract as much of it as possible. Maybe even leave some on the club's back if sold on, with loan repayments arranged.

I’ve just picked a random set of accounts (1994) to see if our memories on this are accurate.

In that year the amount owed to Jack was reduced (through capitalisation) by £7.5 million. 

Edited 21 hours ago by wilsdenrover

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

We want to reduce the average age of the squad.

They must think we're as thick as mince.

They just want the cheapest possible options they think they can get away with in the squad - in this case unproven youngsters.

If (hypothetically) established 27-28 year olds were cheaper than youngsters in terms of wages, then the narrative would be all about needing Championship experience. And we'd be looking to fill the squad with those sorts of players.

This is what worries me about VI. I dont think he is thick as mince and I dont see how he can possibly believe this will work.

[davulsukur]

11 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I suspect that Baradji was to be signed as a Travis replacement, much like Alebiosu has been signed to replace Brittain.

Traveres is Tronstad's replacement.

Yep, agreed. 

The manager has now admitted we are in a transitional phase, which we were not planning on being in. 

I think the indications from Brittain's, Tronstad's & Travis' camp have been, we are not signing new deals. So we're now looking to move all of them on and replace with cheaper, younger alternatives. 

[Rogerb]

2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

 

Otherwise it's pointless we might as well just exist entirely on loans and freebies on low wages.

Absolutely nailed it. That's Pasha's plan.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

This is what worries me about VI. I dont think he is thick as mince and I dont see how he can possibly believe this will work.

Problem being is if VI is more than happy to toe the party line for remuneration then this shit situation carries on indefinitely.

Buy cheap sell high is the 'project'.. Promotion is not on the agenda for this lot.

[alcd]

3 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Problem being is if VI is more than happy to toe the party line for remuneration then this shit situation carries on indefinitely.

Buy cheap sell high is the 'project'.. Promotion is not on the agenda for this lot.

Relegation definitely is. 

[davulsukur]

4 minutes ago, alcd said:

Relegation definitely is. 

As per JDT's remit, VI will only have 2 jobs:

1. Develop players

2. Stay in the Championship

Much less money to be made from players sales in League One. They don't want relegation but there is clearly no desire for promotion either.

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

The club has no debt to the owners.

The only money the club needs to pay to the owners ( via a subsidiary) is rent on the training ground.  

The money they have spent over the last 15 years are simply running costs, not investments. 

Something iv'e been arguing for years even to some hard in the head journos and news outlets.

You simply cannot call it 'investment' just because the head company might pull its accounting stunts on it's own books by putting it down as such.

As far as the club goes it is simply necessary running costs which HAVE to be paid if you own it and don't want to bankrupt it. Investment is when specific money is put in and spent on players or infrastructure to run the club better or help it expand i.e new pitch, Academy buildings, new stand etc.

The rest is just running costs, in V's time it's factual that the club has spent almost the same as its sold in terms of buying/selling players so they haven't actually 'invested' much if anything in that department.

When someone buys a house or renovates the one they are in that is investment but simply paying utility and food bills to run it is just vital necessary running costs, same with the club.  And that spend is gone, never coming back and written off for good the min it leaves your bank account.

Unless of course you achieve a massive equity then sell it and everything is covered which is a long shot in any walk of life.

[RevidgeBlue]

32 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I know its only Tuesday but you can tell this week is a stinker when the only news is Brittain supposedly having talks with Boro and Elliott's coverage in the LT is an interview with Bradley Dack 😂.

No disrespect to Dacky, love the guy...but it's not the news I want to see right now 😅.

There's been more in the LT this summer about where former players have been ending up than about our actual activity which speaks volumes.

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

As per JDT's remit, VI will only have 2 jobs:

1. Develop players

2. Stay in the Championship

Much less money to be made from players sales in League One. They don't want relegation but there is clearly no desire for promotion either.

They are also well aware of the risks they are now running with this model and don't seem to care, so it does raise questions about how long the so called desire to remain at Championship level will last.

[simongarnerisgod]

6 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

They are also well aware of the risks they are now running with this model and don't seem to care, so it does raise questions about how long the so called desire to remain at Championship level will last.

they way venkys and pasha are acting,there definately is no desire to stay in the championship,if we go into the season with the squad we have we`ll go down,if we lose travis and sonny,then it will be relegation very quickly

[RevidgeBlue]

29 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they way venkys and pasha are acting,there definately is no desire to stay in the championship,if we go into the season with the squad we have we`ll go down,if we lose travis and sonny,then it will be relegation very quickly

I dont think they WANT to go down to League 1, there's absolutely no upside to be had either in terms of selling players or TV revenue.

However someone has seemingly convinced them they can survive in the Championship by shedding all the high cost players, and take a moneyball approach to the Lower Leagues in Europe, sell anyone who does well, no need to reinvest any sale proceeds, just rinse and  repeat.

I doubt it will last long, if it does, we won't.

[davulsukur]

47 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

They are also well aware of the risks they are now running with this model and don't seem to care, so it does raise questions about how long the so called desire to remain at Championship level will last.

Definitely a dangerous game they are playing. 

Shipping out plenty of championship experience in favour of unknown players from abroad, could end spectacularly badly this season.

[OnionBalaji]

1 hour ago, London blue said:

Recent post from the rovers account priming us for the fact that CB's replacement is already here.

He’s the profile we need….. 

 

 

cheap as chips 

[Crimpshrine]

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

The owner’s words (within Venky London’s accounts) suggest they hope one day to get it back. 

The owner’s actions (ever since they darkened our door) will almost certainly ensure they won’t.

Thanks, You usually have the answers. 

Is it possible that to declare the funds as shareholder loans they have to state in the accounts that they want to get the money back - otherwise it would be just making use of better tax terms ie false accounting - surely they would never do that !!! 

[Ghost7]

What on earth is going on at the club.

Where is the rebuild???

The season starts in just over 20 days.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

Was just about to post the same thing. Interesting quotes from the article:

So, we have already changed this summers plan and are now, apparently, in a transition period.

We want to reduce the average age of the squad.

Batth and Weimann were probably never really staying, especially as we re-signed Forshaw, if we are looking at younger players.

Tronstad turns 30 next month, so I suspect there is little appetite from the club to sign him back up.

As Brittain is on his way out (27) and replaced with a 23 year old, I suspect that the club are in no rush to sign Travis (27, 28 later this year) up either.

You can tell from the signings (and near signing) he wants athletes. 

You'd think Pickering has one foot out of the door if anyone offers anything for him. Ismael won't want to watch Harry trundle up and down the wing.

[davulsukur]

6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

You can tell from the signings (and near signing) he wants athletes. 

You'd think Pickering has one foot out of the door if anyone offers anything for him. Ismael won't want to watch Harry trundle up and down the wing.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25314186.blackburn-rovers-transfer-plan-callum-brittain-bids/

From the horses mouth, no less.

Quote

Rovers will target younger, athletic players, who can fit the style of play the head coach wants to implement.

"I think you see clearly now on the transfer market, we are in the transition," Ismael explained.

"We spoke after the last game in the season, we wanted to keep that stability in the squad to try to extend the players. We made offers but they chose another way. 

"So now, our strategy is to go into the transition. We didn't expect to have that this summer but now it's time.

"We want to reduce of our players, we have a clear profile of player that we want. Young, very athletic, players who are very able to give us that intensity. Technically as well, to give us possibilities with the ball.

"At some point, it's ok to say, what shall we do now? Should we be chasing (contracts) or are we going to start with a transition period?

"That means new players in, new profiles of players. They need more time to adapt so the fans can enjoy the new players, our new signings. It takes time.

"We are choosing to be proactive. We are in a transition period, clearly. We know that until September 1, anything can happen due to the contract situation of some of our players."

 

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

 Ismael won't want to watch Harry trundle up and down the wing.

Or the opposition constantly running in behind him.

Neither do we.

[Disgruntled Rover]

On the sunken cost fallacy, there could be another, perhaps more sinister reason they won't sell nor invest in the team tucked away under Rule F.1.8. of the Premier League ownership rules.

If they have been investigated for tax evasion or money laundering, which I believe is what the Indian Directorate of Enforcement deals with, it would appear our overlords could be disqualified from owning the club should a promotion have been achieved.

(Rule F.1.10 states that they do not have to have been convicted for such an offence, only that it must be 'in the reasonable opinion of the board'- is it unreasonable to suggest it has happened if they have been investigated and subject to government sanctions?)

Promotion and subsequent disqualification would mean a cheaper sale than they would hope for (i.e. Abramovic to Boehly) or a dilution of their ownership (Dai at Reading)

It is likely that this would have been the case even before the court case became public knowledge, so perhaps we have our answer to why the investment was pulled after missing the playoffs on goal difference under JDT and now another lack of investment/not re-signing our best players this summer after being one goal away at Bramall Lane. 

'The sanctions are no barrier to investment' we were repeatedly told. Maybe rule F.1.8 is. 

 

 

 

 

[Ricceh]

On 13/07/2025 at 10:43, Ricceh said:

We already got the replacement in. Watch Ryan's first interview, at the end he starts going on about how signing for the club now allows him to showcase his talent by playing week in week out, towards the end.

Told ya

[harryhealless1928]

The only positive I can take is that you don`t want a scenario like at Man Ure where they have 5 players(Garnacho,Malacia,Rashford,Antony & Sancho)collecting  approx.£1 million a week in wages(according to the BBC) and the manager doesn`t want them. Don`t train with the first team squad. There are done for him. Also weakens the club`s bargaining position to sell at a high price.

 

So the low cost ,low wages ,young player model is dependant on very good scouting and a lot of luck to work!  Very high risk and interesting. It won`t look so good and interesting if we are bottom of the League.

The idea: don`t get promoted(way too much financial outlay will then be required) but don`t get relegated either(not enough revenue coming in ). 

Due acknowledgement to Tomphil2 that looks like the strategy(if you can call it that)!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, London blue said:

Recent post from the rovers account priming us for the fact that CB's replacement is already here.

We all know what happens to “ very,very fast “ players at Rovers. See Harry Chapman and Kargbo. They spend plenty of time in the treatment room.

[lraC]

16 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25314186.blackburn-rovers-transfer-plan-callum-brittain-bids/

From the horses mouth, no less.

 

Looks like we have a cunning plan.