Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Significantly weaker is a HUGE over statement. Ribeiro definitely holds his own at LB and some will say is better than Beck...Certainly has more experience.Β Only his mum would think heβs a better player than Beck. 4 Quote
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Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I dont think he's a patch on Beck but it's a game of opinions. We've had worse and I assume we signed him because he was a lot cheaper. Could well be cheaper could be a lot of things . But the main point Iv argued is calling beck our best left back in 15/20 years. To me thatβs crazy given how little he playedΒ Quote
47er Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Tyjon and his parents probably want to make sure he gets the game time Ismael has said before he commits to new contracts "probably"---you're just guessing aren't you? Our history of contract problems tells us something different is more likely. Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Only his mum would think heβs a better player than Beck. My mum does to. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Could well be cheaper could be a lot of things . But the main point Iv argued is calling beck our best left back in 15/20 years. To me thatβs crazy given how little he playedΒ You keep saying "how little he played". According to Wikipedia he made 24 appearances for us last season. Was that that bad? My own recollection was that he picked up a couple of injuries but it's not like he was a sick note. Quote
M_B Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said: To play which position? Any to be honest.Β Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: You keep saying "how little he played". According to Wikipedia he made 24 appearances for us last season. Was that that bad? My own recollection was that he picked up a couple of injuries but it's not like he was a sick note. 24 appearances is half a seasonΒ so thatβs enough to call a player the best left back the club has had in 15/20 years? Not for me not even closeΒ he picked up one significant hamstring injuryΒ 3 games suspension for that Preston trampΒ and missed the start as was a late signingΒ heβs not a sick note (yet) but has had a bad hamstring injury which with players like him could easily flare up againΒ Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: What has happened since is irrelevant to replacing what Dolan provided last season. But I very much doubt that Dolan is just sat around with absolutely no offers or interest. If we signed a winger that had done what Dolan did from another Championship club. Or even one with a fancy exotic name who has provided a similar number of goals and assists in a lesser league. We would be excited. You almost had me. I thought you were serious. Then you mentioned youβd be excited by a signingβ¦. NearlyΒ Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, 47er said: Somehow I don't think Derby will be facing a struggle against relegation this season. They will be significantly bettter than last season. Will we? Time will tell. Quote
because of boxing day Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Tyjon so reminds me of Duncan McKenzie in size gait pace and skills. His feint and dropped shoulder to unbalance Everton defenders twice on Saturday had me and those around me purring with admiration.Β 5 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago The only real answer to this daft argument is if Williams was here and Beck was his backup i think after seeing what he could do fans would be wanting him to start over Derek and any coach we've had apart from Mowbray would do so. As it is both Ribero and Pickering are capable enough defenders but don't offer what Beck did going forwards. I think i'd still pick either of those though over F Off Derek in fact i'd pick Tommy Spur over him. 2 Quote
M_B Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You keep saying "how little he played". According to Wikipedia he made 24 appearances for us last season. Was that that bad? My own recollection was that he picked up a couple of injuries but it's not like he was a sick note. Just for comparison, Gallagher according to Wikipedia, played 188 games in 5 seasons, an average of 37 games a season. Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: If he isn't going to agree to sign and earn his corn here then get rid. Giving a kid mins for the sake of it just so he can impress potential suitors to snap him up for a bargain not only might hamper the team if he doesn't hit the standard it also isn't fair on lads who are here for the long run. Can't have unproven kids with a bit of potential dictating the terms at first team level i'm sick of the entitlement of these types. Exactly. Give the minutes to a lad who will/has signed.Β Quote
islander200 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 46 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You keep saying "how little he played". According to Wikipedia he made 24 appearances for us last season. Was that that bad? My own recollection was that he picked up a couple of injuries but it's not like he was a sick note. His other loans away he got injured quite a bit aswell, quality player at this level but injuries would have to be a concern going off his historyΒ Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 53 minutes ago, because of boxing day said: Tyjon so reminds me of Duncan McKenzie in size gait pace and skills. His feint and dropped shoulder to unbalance Everton defenders twice on Saturday had me and those around me purring with admiration.Β Can he jump over a Mini though? 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: The only real answer to this daft argument is if Williams was here and Beck was his backup i think after seeing what he could do fans would be wanting him to start over Derek and any coach we've had apart from Mowbray would do so. As it is both Ribero and Pickering are capable enough defenders but don't offer what Beck did going forwards. I think i'd still pick either of those though over F Off Derek in fact i'd pick Tommy Spur over him. I thought even Bell was better than disastrous Derek. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, M_B said: Just for comparison, Gallagher according to Wikipedia, played 188 games in 5 seasons, an average of 37 games a season. Evening Mrs. Gallagher. Yeah.........mores the pity! Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Fitness permitting, Beck is an excellent signing for Derby. Didnt see many left backs better than him in the league, good both defensively and going forward. There is a big snobbery towards a manager signing players he has previously worked with nowadays, its seen as prehistoric. Its all about signing based on data, plucking out players from obscurity. All of the benefits remain though. You know the player is good at the level, you know his character which data cant measure, they can settle in quickly, they can set standards. All 3 did well for us and make us weaker and Derby stronger. My only criticism of beck would be decision making and being clinical going forward tbf, he should have got a few more goals for us after being in good positions, I know itβs not really his job but after finding himself there he should have done better a good few times. Still a very decent player for this levelΒ Quote
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