2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Christopher]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

What was the last first team contract we renewed? (Riberio aside) I seem to remember reading it was back in 2023 but can't remember which player it was?

Think Carter, S.Wharton & Garrett got good extensions in Jan 2023. 

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

I thought at times JE came across as just going through the motions without his heart being in the job but to be fair we now know he was pissed off and at odds with his bosses for months before he left.

I think if you are familiar with his interviews at Brum and now Derby he sounds pretty much the same though, it's just his manner.

Some come across as wooden, some are more relaxed because they've seen and done it a thousand times, i'd put VI in that category.

Some light up the screen - JDT, some go off on pure waffle - TM and some are pure Starmer = Kean !

Eustace read from a script in his interviews.

Had a message he wanted to get across and wasn't really giving you anything else.

I bet he's a completely different character behind closed doors.

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Think it's more down to us not having the finances to green light our moves without Boro paying us for Brittain.

We're in a chain.

We cant be, sales/income do not impact the budget 😉 

[KentExile]

19 minutes ago, Christopher said:

Think Carter, S.Wharton & Garrett got good extensions in Jan 2023. 

Nope, they did some more at the end of 2023, see below.   Since the 3 that you mentioned above, Pears,  JRC & Leonard (if you count him as first team) also signed contracts in the summer of 2023

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

Wharton

December 2023 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67665036

The last one who is still here (aside from Ribiero) was Pickering, the same week - https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2023/december/07/pickering-pens-new-deal-/

And Szmodics was the week before

 

Then they sidelined & sacked Broughton, presumably for being proactive  wasting money

For any faults he may have had, Broughton did the job with contracts

Edited 7 hours ago by KentExile

[alexanders]

There has unfortunately been some lost cases from our Academy who I had high hopes for, especially Garrett and Bucko. 
 

also highlighted from the club by signing new contracts - didn’t work out unfortunately 

Edited 6 hours ago by alexanders

[aletheia]

13 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

lso presumes that it's not acceptable to ever have a positive net spend on transfers.

I didn't and don't presume anything with this lot (actually I do -incomptence). I certainly do think they should have a net spend, within reason, like many clubs. Speculate to accumulate and all that which has been discussed plenty of times on these boards.  I was just thinking that given expenditure is most likely to be cut again, that any possible incoming would require sales of player assets. Although I take Kent exile's point.

If I need to take some sort of 'side' here, then I am certainly in the camp that thinks matters on the field will not be improved by summer activity. But cue the 'let's' wait and see' club. 😉

Edited 6 hours ago by aletheia

[aletheia]

The board, the manager and Gestede are on the same page… (accepting we have a functioning board)…

Well yes indeed, record of failure, incompetence, ability to be economical with the truth with a smirk, ability to accept a new orthodoxy at the drop of a hat (it’s now cost cutting masquerading as promoting youth), ability to promote a narrative on social media and elsewhere that Stalin would be proud of, and some would say connections with an agency similar to Keane.

Edited 6 hours ago by aletheia

[imy9]

According to Nicko The Swede and Aussie should be announced today

[roverandout]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He looks pretty ordinary to me. Another one who can run a bit, pass the ball a bit, tackle a bit, head it a bit,  have a shot from time to time, look busy. if he wasn’t English nobody would be commenting on him. Wharton is twice the player he is. Wharton can make things happen.

He's never going to be Whartons class but he's still a very tidy player 

[Hasta]

13 hours ago, M_B said:

No, but he said it was down to past mistakes, ie not Gestede. 

No he didn't. 

He said it was down to past mistakes, but  both Pasha and Gestede were in situ when the contracts should have been looked at last summer.

They were also in Situ when Eustace was saying "I think the players would like to know (on their futures)."

 

 

 

[BankEnd Rover]

So if Henriksson comes in is that our last ESC slot taken?

Totth, Kargbo, Mafoumbi, Henriksson and Ohashi? Would Ohashi not qualify now? 

Edited 6 hours ago by BankEnd Rover

[MarkBRFC]

12 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

So if Hendriksson comes in is that our last ESC slot taken?

Totth, Kargbo, Mafoumbi, Hendriksson and Ohashi? Would Ohashi not qualify now? 

We're allowed 4 ESC spots.

Ohashi qualifies now so yes, Henriksson will take out last spot.

[M_B]

21 minutes ago, Hasta said:

No he didn't. 

He said it was down to past mistakes, but  both Pasha and Gestede were in situ when the contracts should have been looked at last summer.

They were also in Situ when Eustace was saying "I think the players would like to know (on their futures)."

 

 

 

"we are still dealing with situations from the past .

Now we have a clear line internally"

 

Now, it seems obvious to me that he blames what went on before Gestede, ie Waggott.

if you think Gestede is included in Ismael's criticism, then that's your prerogative, but I'd say you, and others, are just convincing yourselves for whatever reason. 

[Christopher]

20 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Last time we totted up, are we on about 22 if Brittain goes and 23 if Miller comes in?

Also expecting Baradji and Henriksson 

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

I can't see Baradji signing now unfortunately.

For one thing we have no ESC slot available and secondly they have signed the Swedish lad for that position .

[pick32]

44 minutes ago, imy9 said:

According to Nicko The Swede and Aussie should be announced today

Makes me less confident of the being announced 

[KentExile]

We actually have 25 players who would need to be registered if Ismael was planning to use them this season

 

K - Toth, Pears, Barrett

CB - Hyam, McLoughlin, Carter, Wharton, Pratt

LB - Ribeiro, Pickering

RB - Brittain, Alebiosu

M - Travis, Tronstad, Cantwell, Tavares, Forshaw, Buckley, Garrett

W - De Neve, Kargbo, Hedges

S - Gueye, Ohashi, Leonard

 

 

Montgomery, Tyjon, Goddard & Michalski (and indeed any current player from the U21s not mentioned above) do not need to be registered due to their age 

It would seem from Ismael's comments that Pears & Buckley are on their way out, Garrett is injured in the medium to long term so probably won't be registered for the first half of the season (and will probably be loaned out in January anyway), it is unlikely that Pratt will be registered (I think he will be loaned out), which brings us down to 21.

With Pears on his way Barrett may possibly be included (as 3rd choice keeper) to allow Michaleski & Goddard to get loan moves, so we are on either 20 or 21

Miller will replace Brittain, so still 20/21

Henriksson makes it 21/22, and also will take up our 4th & final esc slot

 

Takeaways

So assuming no more players leave, we could technically bring in anything up to either 3 or 4 more (including loans) in, after the 2 sign today

I assume one of those potential 3/4 will be another goalkeeper to sit on the bench

Obviously any further outgoings from the above 25 (Travis? maybe due to his "contract situation") each free up a further space in the squad.  

It would probably be beneficial for Leonard to be loaned out when fit, which would free up an extra space in the 25

Offloading Mafoumbi would free up an esc slot for another esc signing this summer (Baradji?) (no idea if this is the plan, just a possibility)

In January, Toth & Kargbo should have played enough games to convert them to standard work permits which would free up 2 more esc slots

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[islander200]

21 minutes ago, M_B said:

"we are still dealing with situations from the past .

Now we have a clear line internally"

 

Now, it seems obvious to me that he blames what went on before Gestede, ie Waggott.

if you think Gestede is included in Ismael's criticism, then that's your prerogative, but I'd say you, and others, are just convincing yourselves for whatever reason. 

And we would say you are convincing yourself for whatever reason 

Was Gestede not here last season?

Was it not Gestede who said we couldn't start negotiations on new deals last season because we wouldn't know what division we would be in this season?

Ultimately the blame lays with the owners but why was it that Broughton could get new deals done when Waggott was here?

I do not believe for one second that any manager including Ismael would be behind Gestedes and the clubs stance that we had to wait to know what division we are in before we could start serious contract talks 

[Exiled_Rover]

16 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said:

I can't see Baradji signing now unfortunately.

For one thing we have no ESC slot available and secondly they have signed the Swedish lad for that position .

Have we? Who's to say they don't see the Swedish lad playing further forward?

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Have we? Who's to say they don't see the Swedish lad playing further forward?

I hope I'm wrong I really like the look of Baradji . 

[MarkBRFC]

10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Have we? Who's to say they don't see the Swedish lad playing further forward?

He could well end up in the "10".

Tavares, Baradji and Henrikson will all end up replacing the first choice trio of Travis, Tronstad and Cantwell, on less than half the wages is my guess.

Great business for the finances, not so much for on the field of play.

[Angry_Pirate]

Losing Brittain is less than ideal, but I do like the idea of adding an Australian (and Americans) to the squad, brings back comforting memories of better days with the likes of Neill, Emerton, Filan, and Friedel. 

Partly whely I've always been on the Gabriel Slonina bandwagon from Chelsea as a GK option. Seems like a nice option to replace Pears, but let's see.

What this team would do with a Jermaine Jones type CM, absolute tease of a loan back in the day.

Edited 5 hours ago by Angry_Pirate

[RoversClitheroe]

25 minutes ago, KentExile said:

We actually have 25 players who would need to be registered if Ismael was planning to use them this season

 

K - Toth, Pears, Barrett

CB - Hyam, McLoughlin, Carter, Wharton, Pratt

LB - Ribeiro, Pickering

RB - Brittain, Alebiosu

M - Travis, Tronstad, Cantwell, Tavares, Forshaw, Buckley, Garrett

W - De Neve, Kargbo, Hedges

S - Gueye, Ohashi, Leonard

 

 

Montgomery, Tyjon & Michalski (and indeed any current player from the U21s not mentioned above) do not need to be registered due to their age 

It would seem from Ismael's comments that Pears & Buckley are on their way out, Garrett is injured in the medium to long term so probably wont be registered, and it is unlikely that either Barrett or Pratt will be registered, which brings us down to 20

Miller will replace Brittain, so still 20

Henrikson makes it 21, and also takes up our 4th & final esc slot

 

Takeaways

So assuming no more players leave, we could technically bring in anything up to 4 more (including loans) in, after the 2 sign today

Offloading Mafoumbi would free up an esc slot for another esc signing this summer (Baradji?) (no idea if this is the plan, just a possibility)

In January, Toth & Kargbo should have played enough games to convert them to standard work permits which would free up 2 more esc slots

Struck through the players that should be sold as add zero value.

Lots of players to buy.

[NeilInBristol]

2 hours ago, Christopher said:

Think Carter, S.Wharton & Garrett got good extensions in Jan 2023. 

Wow 1 & 1/2 years since a renewal!! What changed after Jan 2023… hmmm! 

Edited 5 hours ago by NeilInBristol
Typo!

[MarkBRFC]

1 minute ago, NeilInBristol said:

Wow 2& 1/2 years since a renewal!! What changed after Jan 2023… hmmm! 

December 2023 was the last renewal, so not quite 2 and a half years yet, but I imagine that will pass before they manage to get anyone else renewed.

We're essentially a one contract club now.

Edited 5 hours ago by MarkBRFC