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Big club on ITV4 at 19:30 v Sheffield United in the cup.ย  Will give us a taster of what they'll bring to Ewood on Saturday.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Amazing that we donโ€™t look to be using the loan market this year, Iโ€™m not a great fan of doing so as Iโ€™d rather be using our own players but itโ€™s one that we have relied on heavily for years. Definitely a change of tact but Iโ€™m just not sure the lower league gambles is sensible right now. We definitely need some experience and goals/ goal threats added. This is as unenjoyable as I predicted when I said that for the first time I just wasnโ€™t looking forward to the season starting as it just looked like trouble from the offย 

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From one extreme to the other.

Filling the squad with 5 loans to make uo the numbers, or refusing to sign any at all instead relying on kids who clearly arent ready to make up the numbers, purely to hit a ridiculous target.

A couple to top up the squad should be signed.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

So the countdown to Travis leaving has begun and no surprises its started at 1.5 million and won't get anywhere near some of the numbers expected on here in reallity.

Under the cloak of 'undisclosed' and 'add ons up to' etc

And, when he gets sold, wait for the revisionism from the fan base.

"He's had 1 good season"

"Not good enough technically"ย 

"Didn't want to be here under JDT anyway"

This sale and the last 2 games has got me, we're getting relegated this season.

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I think it will be Nectar Triantis for circa 1 million to replace Travis, club to pocket the rest.

FWIW similar to Miller I think heโ€™d be a smart pick up at a good age, coming off the back of a good season in Scotland.

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It is evident that VI dont rate Travis as much as we do. If my memory serves me correctly he was the one (of Trav and Tron) to be subbed early most of the times. Tronstad popped up with the occasional goal and looks more of a VI player. Trav is his best when he can harass the opposition, before of the style of play under VI it requires even more pace and engine than Trav seemingly has. He had some moments under Eustace where he was amazing and I think JEs style of play suited Trav better than VIs.ย 

Trav might have come to that conclusion himself. If you love working under a manager who gets the best out of you I can fully understand the eager to join up with him again. He turns 28 this year, and he might feel that he needs a new challenge.ย 

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5 minutes ago, alexanders said:

It is evident that VI dont rate Travis as much as we do. If my memory serves me correctly he was the one (of Trav and Tron) to be subbed early most of the times. Tronstad popped up with the occasional goal and looks more of a VI player. Trav is his best when he can harass the opposition, before of the style of play under VI it requires even more pace and engine than Trav seemingly has. He had some moments under Eustace where he was amazing and I think JEs style of play suited Trav better than VIs.ย 

Trav might have come to that conclusion himself. If you love working under a manager who gets the best out of you I can fully understand the eager to join up with him again. He turns 28 this year, and he might feel that he needs a new challenge.ย 

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Tronstad is nowhere near as athletic as Travis

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I don't really get the sudden outcry on social media of Trav leaving. It's been obvious all summer that he'd be leaving, with Derby a very plausible destination all along with Eustace in charge. This is just confirmation of that.ย 

I think he's very replaceable and Tavares is a very adequate replacement, and Baradji will be too if that deal gets done.

The real problem is the sheer amount of championship experience we've lost in one summer. Weimann, Batth, Trav, Brittain, Dolan. Probably Buckley and Pears too. Possibly even Tronstad and Hyam.

You just simply cannot lose that amount of experience in one window.

I actually think the new signings are half decent and it's not been a bad window in terms of incomings. However, they're replacing very established championship players and that's a very difficult task when this is the first time many of them have played in this league.

You can see the reality of the situation is now dawning on VI. He cuts a frustrated figure like all those before himย 

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I agree DutchRovers, but under VI he has been the best of the two. He is a better passer and even score two goals against Millwall. I love Travis, but he hasn't been favored by Ismael since he took over.ย 


Another very obvious observation is that VI doesn't rate Gueye at all. Even Woodrow came on before him last season.ย 

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Verdict on what I've seen of the new signings so far (still early days I know)

Positivesย 

Miller, Tavares, McLoughlin

Jury's still out

Alebiosu, Axel

Probably not

De Neve

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14 minutes ago, alexanders said:

It is evident that VI dont rate Travis as much as we do. If my memory serves me correctly he was the one (of Trav and Tron) to be subbed early most of the times. Tronstad popped up with the occasional goal and looks more of a VI player. Trav is his best when he can harass the opposition, before of the style of play under VI it requires even more pace and engine than Trav seemingly has. He had some moments under Eustace where he was amazing and I think JEs style of play suited Trav better than VIs.ย 

Trav might have come to that conclusion himself. If you love working under a manager who gets the best out of you I can fully understand the eager to join up with him again. He turns 28 this year, and he might feel that he needs a new challenge.ย 

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I dont see how it is evident personally. If anything, surely us trying to be more athletic and get about the pitch, that suits the strengths of Travis.

He is naturally a player to sub off when chasing a game because you tend to put more attacking players on. But I am not having that he is going even slightly because Ismael doesnt rate him. He seems annoyed that he is leaving.

He is leaving because we took ages to offer him a new deal, and now he can get a wage far more suited to a proven Championship midfielder. I also suspect he can see a sinking ship around him.

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22 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

And, when he gets sold, wait for the revisionism from the fan base.

"He's had 1 good season"

"Not good enough technically"ย 

"Didn't want to be here under JDT anyway"

This sale and the last 2 games has got me, we're getting relegated this season.

That already started the other day along with the bots being busy 'we only get 13k if 25k turned up every game not just Burnley we'd be spending more'

F#ckin deluded lunatics they are.ย 

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8 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

I don't really get the sudden outcry on social media of Trav leaving. It's been obvious all summer that he'd be leaving, with Derby a very plausible destination all along with Eustace in charge. This is just confirmation of that.ย 

I think he's very replaceable and Tavares is a very adequate replacement, and Baradji will be too if that deal gets done.

The real problem is the sheer amount of championship experience we've lost in one summer. Weimann, Batth, Trav, Brittain, Dolan. Probably Buckley and Pears too. Possibly even Tronstad and Hyam.

You just simply cannot lose that amount of experience in one window.

I actually think the new signings are half decent and it's not been a bad window in terms of incomings. However, they're replacing very established championship players and that's a very difficult task when this is the first time many of them have played in this league.

You can see the reality of the situation is now dawning on VI. He cuts a frustrated figure like all those before himย 

He is not only an experienced player at this level but you underplay how effective he is at this level and how hard it would be to replace him.

It will be very difficult to replace him, especially seeing as we will be doing so for a small fee most likely from a random European league. Tavares had a decent game againsr Bradford, is thay enough for you to consider Travis to already be replaced adequately? Lunacy if so.

Baradji seems to be flavour of the month based on a highlights reel. If he needs months off that should be off the table straight away. Beyond that, we also dont have a slot for him in terms of ESC. And beyond that, you are replacing a proven good Championship midfielder with someone who has had one good season seemingly at a relegated Swiss club.

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Verdict on what I've seen of the new signings so far (still early days I know)

Positivesย 

Miller, Tavares, McLoughlin

Jury's still out

Alebiosu, Axel

Probably not

De Neve

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I'd personally put Alebiosu as a firm positive. Big, strong & quick. Managed to put in a cross from nowhere yesterday with 2 players around him, Hedges has never done that. I think he'll be a very useful player and has all the attributes to be more than that.ย 

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I'm not unduly concerned about replacing Travis as a player but his presence as a captain and leader will be sorely missed. Quite simply I can't see anyone (maybe over time Miller) from the current squad who will be able to replace him in that respect.

It sounds like he wants to go and has made it public but this has been coming for some time now so it doesn't surprise me. It boils down to the awful management and poor handling of players new deals and our anger should be directed towards those people.

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37 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Amazing that we donโ€™t look to be using the loan market this year, Iโ€™m not a great fan of doing so as Iโ€™d rather be using our own players but itโ€™s one that we have relied on heavily for years. Definitely a change of tact but Iโ€™m just not sure the lower league gambles is sensible right now. We definitely need some experience and goals/ goal threats added. This is as unenjoyable as I predicted when I said that for the first time I just wasnโ€™t looking forward to the season starting as it just looked like trouble from the offย 

I agree with all of this. Quality of the first 11 needs to be improved to save off the upcoming threat of relegation.

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The warning signs of over promoting youth and the 30% of the squad pathway laid down by Broughton, obviously on instruction, nearly saw us relegated or certainly made a big contribution to that.

They are going back down the same path but with a lesser squad and a load of cheap foreign imports who don't know each other.

I mean what could possibly go wrong ?

Did no one actually think about this or were they too busy trying to get rid of those who warned against it ( Eustace, Waggot, maybe Lowe and i bet certain players weren't shy of voicing their opinion either ).

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, alexanders said:

I agree DutchRovers, but under VI he has been the best of the two. He is a better passer and even score two goals against Millwall. I love Travis, but he hasn't been favored by Ismael since he took over.ย 


Another very obvious observation is that VI doesn't rate Gueye at all. Even Woodrow came on before him last season.ย 

Since joining Rovers on 25th February we have played 14 games under Ismael and Travis has started all of them save for last night's League Cup game.ย 

Of the 13 starts he's been captain in all of them and has played 90+ minutes in 10 of them, being subbed off after 88 minutes at Sheff Utd last season as we threw the kitchen sink at a winner, after 65 minutes against Millwall as we cantered to a win, and after 81 minutes last week as we tried to find an equaliser.

Strange way of not favouring a player, but this sort of revisionism becomes common as a popular player heads out the exit door. He's been favoured and picked by all our last 4ย  managers save for JDT's second season and I remain convinced that saving on his salary and freeing up a wage was at least part of the thinking behind that loan to Ipswichย 

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28 minutes ago, FE123 said:

I think it will be Nectar Triantis for circa 1 million to replace Travis, club to pocket the rest.

Couldn't think of his name, but yeah this wouldn't surprise me at all.

Shout for the right winger, Elie Youan.

26, plays for Hibs, loosely linked in January, out of contract next summer.

Pretty fast but doesn't seem to have much else going for him.

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13 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

I don't really get the sudden outcry on social media of Trav leaving. It's been obvious all summer that he'd be leaving, with Derby a very plausible destination all along with Eustace in charge. This is just confirmation of that.ย 

I think he's very replaceable and Tavares is a very adequate replacement, and Baradji will be too if that deal gets done.

The real problem is the sheer amount of championship experience we've lost in one summer. Weimann, Batth, Trav, Brittain, Dolan. Probably Buckley and Pears too. Possibly even Tronstad and Hyam.

You just simply cannot lose that amount of experience in one window.

I actually think the new signings are half decent and it's not been a bad window in terms of incomings. However, they're replacing very established championship players and that's a very difficult task when this is the first time many of them have played in this league.

You can see the reality of the situation is now dawning on VI. He cuts a frustrated figure like all those before himย 

Spot on. Of the players left (including Travis) you could probably say Brittain is the only top-end Championship player. The big issue is the impact on the dressing room. We had the same problem 2 seasons ago when we almost got relegated. The squad was young and experienced without any leaders. Last season Travis was back along the experienced heads of Bath, Weimann which has been highlighted in interviews by other players.ย 

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Im just going by watching the replays of two matched under VI from last season. VIs style doesn't suit Trav. I love Trav. I have him as my profile pic on X and as I said yesterday in here - he is Arte et Labore.

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Neal said:

I'd personally put Alebiosu as a firm positive. Big, strong & quick. Managed to put in a cross from nowhere yesterday with 2 players around him, Hedges has never done that. I think he'll be a very useful player and has all the attributes to be more than that.ย 

It was 50/50 for Alebiosu tbh. Thought he was good against WBA, along with McLoughlin our best player imo.

Bit disappointed last night but think there's something there to work on definitelyย 

All in all, despite the understandable doom and gloom at the moment, the signings have been pretty good. Just hope whoever else arrives is up to it.

Agree that the loss of Travis may well be felt more off the pitch than on it.ย 

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