2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[KentExile]

10 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Reckon its at 21 for now, plus 3 youth in Michalski, Tyjon and Montgomery. More importantly perhaps all 4 ESC slots are used.

 

1 - Toth (ESC)

Youth - Michalski

2 - Alebiosu

3 - Miller

Youth - Montgomery

4 - Hyam

5 - Wharton

6 - Carter

7 - McLoughlan

8 - Ribeiro

9 - Pickering

10 - Tronstad (for now, I think we may be looking to offload if they want another CM)

11 - Tavares

12 - Baradji (ESC)

13 - Forshaw

14 - Henriksson (ESC)

15 - Cantwell

Youth - Tyjon

16 - Hedges

17 - Kargbo (ESC)

18 - De Neve

19 - Morishita

20 - Ohashi

21 - Gueye

 

Not going to include Buckley, Pears or Leonard since they seem the most likely to leave. Leaves space for a back-up goalie hopefully, another striker and a couple more if they really want.

(Happy to amend if any info is not correct)

Technically also Barrett, Pratt & Garrett, but they are all unlikely to be registered.  So think 21 is correct

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[davulsukur]

Well Tronstad has turned 30 today, so they are likely looking at getting rid in the last week of the window!

[roverblue]

Don't know anything about Baradaj or Morishita but from reading their backgrounds sound a lot more about them than the other unknowns that have come in.

Anyone who brings goals and assists is an improvement on what we have today!

[Leonard Venkhater]

10 hours ago, M_B said:

Difficult to say yet really, it would seem that Ismael is Gestede's man and they're in it together. I said during pre season that it does feel different, rather than being a continuation of what came before.

It's difficult to compare when it seems a completely different set up. 

We know Suhail has been here from the start of this nightmare. Anyone know what connection Gestede and Adam Owen might have with Steve Kean?.. 

 

[Christopher]

10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Yes, Eustace is better. His results last season were very impressive, Ismael hasnt replicated them. The job he did at Derby to keep them up was very, very impressive. The job he was doing at Birmingham was impressive.

You are basically admitting that you are allowing feelings around his departure to cloud your judgement.

I have given a firm answer. Eustace 100% I would prefer over Ismael. I am guessing I will not receive the courtesy of a straight answer from you.

For me right now I prefer Ismaël. Why? Eustace was for the here and now, yes it worked to a degree, yes you earn your luck but I felt he had some lucky wins last season.

 

Ismaël is looking to play a more attacking style with players of a better age, Ok we've lost Dolan but we've brought in money with other sales and replaced with players with good potential ceilings. Building for the future. 

[MarkBRFC]

1 hour ago, callumrovers said:

Have we still got a ESC space left?

Afimico Pululu is a name that keeps cropping up. 
 

Club is looking to sell as he won’t sign a new deal - wouldn’t cost 5 million either 😆

Something like this is what the last ESC spot should have been used for, a potential game changer,

Not someone who will probably take until Christmas to get up and running.

If we were creative surely we could have signed Baradji, sent him for his op while keeping him on loan at his current club until January, he then would have been fit and raring to go as a January signing.

[rigger]

6 hours ago, Fraserkirky said:

Did you see his goal last week? Just got named to Scotland squad. 

And ?

[Tugay Et Labore]

5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Something like this is what the last ESC spot should have been used for, a potential game changer,

Not someone who will probably take until Christmas to get up and running.

If we were creative surely we could have signed Baradji, sent him for his op while keeping him on loan at his current club until January, he then would have been fit and raring to go as a January signing.

Might’ve missed it but have Rovers or EJ confirmed Baradji is currently unfit?

[rigger]

4 hours ago, ... said:

Yuki has song competition now hehe Heyyyyyy hey Mori ooh ahh!!!!! I wanna knowwwwwww if you'll score 14 goals and assist another 14 this seasonnnnnnnnn!!!

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

He came from Warsaw.

He always score a goal.

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Edited 2 hours ago by rigger

[roversfan99]

15 minutes ago, Christopher said:

For me right now I prefer Ismaël. Why? Eustace was for the here and now, yes it worked to a degree, yes you earn your luck but I felt he had some lucky wins last season.

 

Ismaël is looking to play a more attacking style with players of a better age, Ok we've lost Dolan but we've brought in money with other sales and replaced with players with good potential ceilings. Building for the future. 

I think its very unfair to call Eustace's results lucky. When you are repeatedly winning games often to nil it isnt luck.

Im not convinced that weve been very attacking under Ismael. In the first 2 games we created very few chances and we didnt create any more under him last season.

[MarkBRFC]

7 minutes ago, Tugay Et Labore said:

Might’ve missed it but have Rovers or EJ confirmed Baradji is currently unfit?

No they haven't to be fair, seems to be silence on his fitness status.

The only thing we have is from Nixon who said at the time of this signing that he was going for his op and will be out "a few weeks".

[lraC]

13 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

We know Suhail has been here from the start of this nightmare. Anyone know what connection Gestede and Adam Owen might have with Steve Kean?.. 

 

Gestede was with him in Australia at Melbourne Victory, signing for then in November 2020.  and Owen at Hibernian, where Kaean was academy director and Owen was assistant manager.

[Waggy76]

1 minute ago, lraC said:

Gestede was with him in Australia at Melbourne Victory, signing for then in November 2020.  and Owen at Hibernian, where Kaean was academy director and Owen was assistant manager.

Two to many coincidences there !!

[Ossydave]

11 minutes ago, Tugay Et Labore said:

Might’ve missed it but have Rovers or EJ confirmed Baradji is currently unfit?

I certainly haven't seen it confirmed or denied anywhere. Nixon insisted he needed an operation for a stress fracture and its been taken as gospel. He played for his 'old' team the other week.

It might be a case of playing him and seeing how he gets on, it certainly isn't a serious injury and one that could most probably be managed.

Unless Nixon has very good contacts within our medical setup and has had it confirmed, possible I suppose.

[KentExile]

Tyjon has been called up for Poland U18

 

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4 hours ago, ... said:

Yuki has song competition now hehe Heyyyyyy hey Mori ooh ahh!!!!! I wanna knowwwwwww if you'll score 14 goals and assist another 14 this seasonnnnnnnnn!!!

@Theaxe15 bit grumpy arent you 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, DutchRover said:

I suspect he will play on the right, but maybe Ismael is happy to have Kargbo and Hedges as the right wingers? Kargbo played well there versus Hull and before that game Hedges had usually been better on the right too.

Hedges is better on the left.

[...]

23 minutes ago, rigger said:

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

He came from Warsaw.

He always score a goal.

Royoya, oh, oh, oh, oh.

I like that haha

[Theaxe15]

2 minutes ago, ... said:

@Theaxe15 bit grumpy arent you 

Not grumpy at all no, just find stuff like that incredibly cringeworthy. 

[JHRover]

29 minutes ago, Christopher said:

For me right now I prefer Ismaël. Why? Eustace was for the here and now, yes it worked to a degree, yes you earn your luck but I felt he had some lucky wins last season.

 

Ismaël is looking to play a more attacking style with players of a better age, Ok we've lost Dolan but we've brought in money with other sales and replaced with players with good potential ceilings. Building for the future. 

Sometimes I find it hard to believe that any Rovers fan can have confidence in 'building for the future' under this regime. 

Yes Eustace was for the here and now - he's a Championship manager who on average might get a couple of years to deliver and that's what any manager should be judged on - immediate results and league position. He found a way of delivering play-off form over 7 months on a shoestring after selling Szmodics. 

Whatever it is we are doing now it will have to be a total masterstroke to eclipse the results and league position Eustace was providing us with. 

Fortunately for those running the show they aren't employed to get us promoted, and aren't employed based on league position, so provided we can scrape our way to 50 points they will be quite comfortable. We are now embarking on a few years of the gravy train road to nowhere as they 'build' - but they didn't need to build - if they'd have kept what we had we would have been very well placed for promotion last season. 

How on earth anyone can say this club is building for the future in a summer where we've watched basically the entire spine of the team walk out the door as a direct result of a negligent failed approach to contract renewals baffles me. 

This is just life in the Venky cycle - someone else gets their foot in the door and oversees another rebuild, and then in a couple of years they'll have left or the owners will have changed track again. It never ends. Yet because we've got a revolving door of players people get giddy and think there's some grand plan or ambition. 

 

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

 

They could technically sign him without an ESC and loan him back to his current club (or another European club) until January when Toth can be converted to a standard GBE freeing up an ESC slot

Not that I think that will happen, just that it could be done

 

Edit - this next bit is probably one for Wilsden, although if anyone else has an idea on this then feel free to chime in 

Would it be possible to sign a player without an ESC and loan them to a Championship club who does have an ESC slot (Sheff Wed for instance who are crying out for players) until january/for the season, until they qualify for a GBE?  I cant see a reason why not, but wonder if I am missing something

 

I don’t believe this is possible as I think it would be ‘caught’ by the following (whilst he wouldn’t be an ESC player when we loaned him he’d become one immediately afterwards):

 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I think its very unfair to call Eustace's results lucky. When you are repeatedly winning games often to nil it isnt luck.

Im not convinced that weve been very attacking under Ismael. In the first 2 games we created very few chances and we didnt create any more under him last season.

In my opinion part of the reason for that was we were playing with two water carriers in central midfield. Neither of them are particularly good at getting up to and beyond the forwards. There were times when we were playing with a back 7 if you include the goalkeeper. With Cantwell also playing deeper that left the forward 3 players to do a hell of a lot ! I think Ismael realised early on that if we were going to score more goals at least one of the central midfield players needed to be able to get forward more and link up forward play and join in with attacks.

If that is his thinking I agree with him.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Now now let’s not get all defensive because someone didn’t like something you wrote

All I care about is what happens on the pitch for 90 minutes. That’s my focus, anything else is just candy floss.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

 

I don’t believe this is possible as I think it would be ‘caught’ by the following (whilst he wouldn’t be an ESC player when we loaned him he’d become one immediately afterwards):

 

 

The loophole I see there is that the rule seems to be aimed at players who already are taking up an ESC slot, before being loaned out.  I couldn't see one for players who were never allocated an ESC slot, if you get my meaning

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

100%. Couldnt say a bad word about Tomasson until he left then regularly laid into him. Now predictably the same with Eustace.

Will also only judge on results but still prefers Ismael because specfically he likes what he says in the media.

Yes you find things or situations that only come out after they left, like Eustace over the Derby's approach or the fact he lied to the Rovers fans. You might be comfortable with that but I ain't. 

I like Ismael cos he told the supporters about the Brittain and Travis the truth, you might see it as throwing Travis under the bus but I don't think he ever did, he told the truth and as supporters that all you asked for. For some unknown reason, he don't agree and think supporters shouldn't be told the truth

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ismael has been very consistent in saying that we wanted one more, before sales, a right winger. Therefore I was always reasonably confident that we would get one. I am not sure if this new lad is specifically a right winger but he is an exciting addition to our attack and I am assuming that he is the winger/the 1 attacker before sales that we anticipated.

We absolutely desperately need a striker but its never been mentioned by Ismael and it doesnt really align with any of the potential exits that now seemingly needs to happen. Its also hard to read into exactly what the policy is. Travis is leaving, was Baradji considered to be his replacement or was he a seperate case having initially failed a medical? Buckley was frozen out, will he be considered as someone who needs to be replacing? Will Pears? Leonard didnt even go away on tour, does he need replacing? Does the 1 in 1 out policy mean only direct replacements positionally? Could shifting a few mean that a striker is possible simply because the budget has been shifted about?

I am not convinced by the likelihood of this transfer link. No way are we coming close to the fee suggested, and he seems to be strongly linked elsewhere, albeit at a much lower amount. But either way, it is of paramount importance that we bring in a striker. Its hard to predict exactly what will happen.

Buckley, Leonard and Pears are all on the wage bill and we need to move on them otherwise we are going to either bring them in the fold or stick them in under 23's whilst still paying them. 

Also I think Rovers higher management/owners are allowing Gestede, Owen and Ismael to spend more than the original budget was. It was suggested the original budget was £5m but so far we spend around £7.5m with more set to spend. Yes they will be outgoing so more cash will be generate by the Travis sale, Buckley sale and possible others.