2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

He has, but the only game time he has missed since moving on is for that 6 month period prior to going to Plymouth. He may well have been in line to fill in when those got injured. But a simple yes or no, do you genuinely think he would have played more than 50 Championship games in the last 2 seasons had he stayed, with another season of regular football to come?

And even if you think that which seems revisionist, can you not acknowledge that he HAS developed lots since he moved by being exposed to lots of regular Championshiop football? He wouldnt have been any better off even if he had stayed because at best he would have only been doing what he has been doing anyway and playing Championship football.

Given that Spurs faced a massive injury crisis at Centre back position with all 3 centre backs and they had to play Gray and Davies at centre back, they never recalled him to play him they. 

I think Phillips made their wrong move in joining Spurs and making a break through there. Its make be great for his bank balance tho. 

I think he should have stayed here and develop more and been regular now, he might have got a move to Lower PL team where he would be much involved for that team instead of being loan here and there everywhere

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

He clearly wasnt signed to have an immediate impact on the pitch. They signed a young lad who hadnt really played much Championship football. We have signed loads of players (like any club) for the future. Mafoumbi, Barrett, Doherty and many others. Are they all wastes of time too? You only think players signed for the first team have any point.

But we are very different club to Spurs, we are taking punt on potential players in hope we find a gem or 2. You can't compare us to them. 

[Mercer]

9 hours ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Phillips only played due to the lack of experienced cbs. At every opportunity that there was experienced available he was dropped. Wharton's long term injury gave Phillips a boost up the pecking order. 

JDT's first game Phillips wasnt even the first choice Academy player to come on with Barnes coming on ahead of him. Barnes' long term injury gave him another boost up the pecking order. 

If those two hadnt been injured Phillips COULD have been even lower down the pecking order and so his first team playing time was limited.

Phil Jones one the other hand held onto his first team place when circumstances prevailed because he looked comfortable in the first team where as  Phillips sometimes looked uncomfortable at times so I think Phillips wouldnt have got as much championship experience now if he had stayed at Rovers

Spot on.

Think both Phillips and Spurs made the right choices for all the reasons outlined by other posters.   

[wilsdenrover]

We were 4 points behind Spurs when Venkys bought us.

We’re now light years behind them.

Fuck off Venkys.

[Andy]

1 hour ago, pick32 said:

Seen O’Brien a few times last season playing for Swansea, didn’t think we missed out on much 

Yeah, agreed - I was excited for us to sign him at the time, but each time we've played him since, he's really not looked that good.

Also Leonard to Accy, if he's going to get regular games, is a good move for me.

Needs minutes and goals at this point, the level is less important (within reason).

[M_B]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not wanting to shoot the messenger but he's a lot better than that surely.

I thought that, it can't happen anyway until his injury is finally sorted apparently. 

[yankfan]

Do we have an Ash Phillips thread?

[yankfan]

3 hours ago, yankfan said:

So we’re 💯 in on him the? 

I mean were still in for Baradji...so why not a lad with a fractured back. 

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

If Alebiosu came here for 500k, didn't play a game, spent a year or so out on loan, and we sold him for £2m afterwards, Chaddy would be saying it's a great move for everybody concerned.

we are a completely different club to Spurs and then spending a couple of millions is small fish for their budget, whilst us spending that sort of fee would be a first team player for us. 

6 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The only ones to lose out are Rovers due to Broughton not being able to persuade Phillips his future lay here for a few years and us therefore being forced to sell him after 12 months for a fraction of the fee we would have realised had he spent a few years here, excelled and had he not had a contract with a ridiculously low release clause.

Phillips was close to leaving the summer Broughton joined and he convinced him to stay but it always felt like he didn't want to stay here. 

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

That LT piece does seem to just be an attempt to cobble together an update partly based on assumptions.

The Montgomery bit is strange journalism. For a start, a number 6 is a centre back. Dont let the modern day jargon fool you. But they havent "ruled out" playing him in his natural position?

I would be very surprised if the Badarji deal happens now. Surely there are alternatives on a list that are actually fit should that be a profile of player that we desperately want?

Right wing is the obvious main weakness at the moment. A right footed centre back, again yes we need. A number 10 as to not over burden Tyjon would certainly be something I agree with and if its something we do, chaddy will be fuming.

Striker has slipped off the list, concern is still not even about the fact that I dont think that Gueye is good enough, which I dont, but moreso when Ohashi tires/is injured, we dont have a like for like replacement that can slot into the side without a change of tactic.

Hopefully we can get a winger in as a minimum before the NEC game next week.

a number 6 is centre midfielder Coaches' Voice | Number six position in football

As Jackson says in his article, Badarji is a player that Ismael and Gestede but whether we can agreed a new transfer deal based appearances based is debateable 

Yes a winger and centre back is a must

why will I be fuming? There is much more important to be fuming about then about this but in the end where does that type of attitude get you, nowhere in life. 

[B16Rover]

1 minute ago, yankfan said:

I mean were still in for Baradji...so why not a lad with a fractured back. 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Given that Spurs faced a massive injury crisis at Centre back position with all 3 centre backs and they had to play Gray and Davies at centre back, they never recalled him to play him they. 

I think Phillips made their wrong move in joining Spurs and making a break through there. Its make be great for his bank balance tho. 

I think he should have stayed here and develop more and been regular now, he might have got a move to Lower PL team where he would be much involved for that team instead of being loan here and there everywhere

But we are very different club to Spurs, we are taking punt on potential players in hope we find a gem or 2. You can't compare us to them. 

You keep saying that he should have stayed here "to develop." Your bias means that you can not acknowledge that he very much has developed since leaving, irrelevant as to whether its at his contracted club.

He left here having not managed 10 games. In 2 years he has played 50 odd and at Stoke really caught the eye and was considered to be their best outfield player last season. Sounds like he has developed to me.

[pick32]

Nzonzi is 36 now and training with Stoke to try get a move back to England 

[roversfan99]

52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

we are a completely different club to Spurs and then spending a couple of millions is small fish for their budget, whilst us spending that sort of fee would be a first team player for us. 

Phillips was close to leaving the summer Broughton joined and he convinced him to stay but it always felt like he didn't want to stay here. 

a number 6 is centre midfielder Coaches' Voice | Number six position in football

As Jackson says in his article, Badarji is a player that Ismael and Gestede but whether we can agreed a new transfer deal based appearances based is debateable 

Yes a winger and centre back is a must

why will I be fuming? There is much more important to be fuming about then about this but in the end where does that type of attitude get you, nowhere in life. 

I dont need an article to know that 6 was a centre backs number until very recently.

It was more of a tongue in cheek pop at this modern day nonsense of calling positions by numbers, presumably an influence from abroad. Similar to using stupid terms as a "pivot." There was a thread on here at one point where everyone highlighted some of the bollocks that people come up with nowadays 

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You keep saying that he should have stayed here "to develop." Your bias means that you can not acknowledge that he very much has developed since leaving, irrelevant as to whether its at his contracted club.

He left here having not managed 10 games. In 2 years he has played 50 odd and at Stoke really caught the eye and was considered to be their best outfield player last season. Sounds like he has developed to me.

Its pointless debate cos its going nowhere when you keep saying my points I was making are irrelevant. Lets leave it here 

[Forever Blue]

36 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Nzonzi is 36 now and training with Stoke to try get a move back to England 

Poor mans Adam Forshaw.

[B16Rover]

1 hour ago, pick32 said:

Nzonzi is 36 now and training with Stoke to try get a move back to England 

Can't lose a yard of pace if you never had it to begin with 

[RoversClitheroe]

7 hours ago, pick32 said:

Seen O’Brien a few times last season playing for Swansea, didn’t think we missed out on much 

O'Brien not signing is the reason we didn't get playoffs that season they seemingly 'forgot' to press send 

[Exiled_Rover]

9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

O'Brien not signing is the reason we didn't get playoffs that season they seemingly 'forgot' to press send 

He wasn't going to bang the goals in from #9. 

Undav turning down a loan deal is why we didn't make the playoffs. That and our inability to find a replacement. 

[davulsukur]

Dolan signing for Espanyol, apparently

 Which means no compo for us.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Dolan signing for Espanyol, apparently

 Which means no compo for us.

But but.......no-one's interested in him, he's shit.

Good luck to him if true.

Chalk up yet another massive own goal to our management.

[BankEnd Rover]

What a move for him! I think he'll struggle though and soon to be back in championship with Stoke city on loan.

[MarkBRFC]

18 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Dolan signing for Espanyol, apparently

 Which means no compo for us.

Good. It's what this club deserves.

7 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

What a move for him! I think he'll struggle though and soon to be back in championship with Stoke city on loan.

Cynic in me says this is a way into Burnley without them paying compensation, could see him "on loan" there in 6 months.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

He’s went to who was willing to pay him the highest wages let’s get it right. All his talk of ambition etc was hot air burnely sister club to boot 

[ObiWhan8t7]

Talked about this the other day. Dolan to Espanyol. What better way to Potentially transfer  funds from Burnley to Espanyol for Dolan. Lad come out publicly after Eustace left, knew exactly the reason and clearly upset with the situation. This is a big finger up to the club, Rudy and co

Edited 16 hours ago by ObiWhan8t7

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

4 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said:

Talked about this the other day. Dolan to Espanyol. Potential transfer of funds from Burnley to Espanyol for Dolan. Lad come out publicly after Eustace left, knew exactly the reason and clearly upset with the situation. The is a big finger up to the club, Rudy and co

Not certain it is about the club, it is about money - if Rovers had offered him 20k per week he would have stayed - but irrespective of whether you are a fan of Dolan or not - I bet few would have given him that salary. Fair play to the lad, it is a short career which you have to make the best of. He may go onto great things, with a different style of football, but I doubt it.

What I find disappointing is the lack of loyalty in football these days - the club gave him his first break in 1st team football, and supported him through some tough times.

[ObiWhan8t7]

8 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

Not certain it is about the club, it is about money - if Rovers had offered him 20k per week he would have stayed - but irrespective of whether you are a fan of Dolan or not - I bet few would have given him that salary. Fair play to the lad, it is a short career which you have to make the best of. He may go onto great things, with a different style of football, but I doubt it.

What I find disappointing is the lack of loyalty in football these days - the club gave him his first break in 1st team football, and supported him through some tough times.

I wouldn’t give him 20k a week. Despite his great attitude and work ethic he wasn’t one of our consistent performers. Many reasons we are unaware of behind the scenes that he felt his career was somewhere else. Will he be a miss, no doubt, offered that utility across the front line. But can be replaced