Championship Season 25-26

[KentExile]

25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Some of their signings are really good and they certainly have a very strong squad at this level.

I'm not sure they have a strong squad, they have made (as you say) some very strong signings for their first team, but the squad players (Elliott Lee, O'Connell etc) are good League One players to me, not Championship players.

Obviously if they make another 10 signings this week, then that changes

Edited 9 hours ago by KentExile

[Mattyblue]

Only four parachute clubs in the league this season and even putting Sheff Utd aside and it’s early days, but initial thoughts, the relegated three look like they might not be as strong as some years.

Owners across the Championship will be thinking we’ve a decent sniff this year …  of course, the owners of Blackburn Rovers won’t be thinking said thing.

[Waggy76]

49 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I wonder whether Wrexham get rid of Parkinson assuming results continue.

Some of their signings are really good and they certainly have a very strong squad at this level.

They keep conceding late on and also the choice to start Ward in net will keep costing them. Parkinson has proven before that he often struggles at this level, and although he has a very strong Championship squad likely to be strengthened further, one a good manager could really push on, they arent levels above most of the league like they have been in the past so it requires better management.

That being said, its hard to read their owners. Theyve obviously transformed that club but I wonder if their achilles heel will be being too loyal.

There is a man in Northampton called Dyche , Wrexham best be quick cos Potter isn't going to last long !

[roversfan99]

27 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I'm not sure they have a strong squad, they have made (as you say) some very strong signings for their first team, but the squad players (Elliott Lee, O'Connell etc) are good League One players to me, not Championship players.

Obviously if they make another 10 signings this week, then that changes

Those players will probably struggle to make match day squads once everyone is fit and may even leave when they inevitably sign more players this week.

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I wonder whether Wrexham get rid of Parkinson assuming results continue.

Some of their signings are really good and they certainly have a very strong squad at this level.

They keep conceding late on and also the choice to start Ward in net will keep costing them. Parkinson has proven before that he often struggles at this level, and although he has a very strong Championship squad likely to be strengthened further, one a good manager could really push on, they arent levels above most of the league like they have been in the past so it requires better management.

That being said, its hard to read their owners. Theyve obviously transformed that club but I wonder if their achilles heel will be being too loyal.

Its 3 games in. Let the squad settle down and the league settle down. You do love a sacking 

Parkinson should have the season given what he has achieved at Wrexham. I don't think they get anything above mid table which I think is right. 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its 3 games in. Let the squad settle down and the league settle down. You do love a sacking 

Parkinson should have the season given what he has achieved at Wrexham. I don't think they get anything above mid table which I think is right. 

And you wish relegation upon anyone who sacks an underperforming manager.

I never said that he should be sacked now. But if they continue to underperform, then just blindly giving him the season is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously its not your club because you wanted Ismael out after 7 games.

[chaddyrovers]

32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

And you wish relegation upon anyone who sacks an underperforming manager.

I never said that he should be sacked now. But if they continue to underperform, then just blindly giving him the season is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously its not your club because you wanted Ismael out after 7 games.

I said I was wrong on Ismael and admitted I was wrong, publicly. I can admitted my mistakes. 

I still think Watford were wrong for sacking Cleverly and I stand by that. 

Its 3 games into the season and yet you are totally sacking head coaches from their roles. Parkinson and Wrexham have made a number of signings and it will take time to settle there. Their owners are still backing Parkinson and rightly so given what he has achieve there. 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its 3 games in. Let the squad settle down and the league settle down. You do love a sacking 

Parkinson should have the season given what he has achieved at Wrexham. I don't think they get anything above mid table which I think is right. 

You were publicly stating Ismael should have been sacked after not much more than 3 games into his tenure here last season. You seem to have totally flipped on that view now.

The owners of Wrexham have ambition, so they won't be keeping a struggling manager out of gratitude or loyalty, or because he's done a good job up to now. That sort of investment they will want and expect more than a relegation danger so if things don't pick up I bet he will be in trouble.

This isn't amateur football where you let someone carry on in the job because its the nice or right thing to do. It's only at places like Rovers (that go nowhere and achieve nothing) where individuals and nice men get to carry on regardless of performance and results. 

[roversfan99]

25 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I said I was wrong on Ismael and admitted I was wrong, publicly. I can admitted my mistakes. 

I still think Watford were wrong for sacking Cleverly and I stand by that. 

Its 3 games into the season and yet you are totally sacking head coaches from their roles. Parkinson and Wrexham have made a number of signings and it will take time to settle there. Their owners are still backing Parkinson and rightly so given what he has achieve there. 

I never said that they should sack him. Not yet. But the idea that he just gets the season regardless of results is ludicrious.

In the lower leagues (along with Birmingham in League 1) they had a budget that meant that they had a team far above the quality of the rest so it was quite an easy job. Different job here, they do have a good squad that they are putting together but there are lots of similarly strong teams. He shouldnt just get a season at it purely on goodwill.

I would personally sack Potter because hes been at West Ham for a bit now and there have been no signs that he is the man for the job.

Watford were also correct IMO to sack Cleverley or at least justified. Their form in the second half of the season was the worst in the league. 

[chaddyrovers]

52 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You were publicly stating Ismael should have been sacked after not much more than 3 games into his tenure here last season. You seem to have totally flipped on that view now.

Its was more than 3 games but I admitted I was wrong. How more times do you want to say FFS! 

 

52 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The owners of Wrexham have ambition, so they won't be keeping a struggling manager out of gratitude or loyalty, or because he's done a good job up to now. That sort of investment they will want and expect more than a relegation danger so if things don't pick up I bet he will be in trouble.

Yes we all now about their owners and they have backed Phil Parkinson every way. The championship isn't an easy league and this is different to league 1 or 2 which their owners actually did understand. 

[chaddyrovers]

26 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said that they should sack him. Not yet. But the idea that he just gets the season regardless of results is ludicrious.

In the lower leagues (along with Birmingham in League 1) they had a budget that meant that they had a team far above the quality of the rest so it was quite an easy job. Different job here, they do have a good squad that they are putting together but there are lots of similarly strong teams. He shouldnt just get a season at it purely on goodwill.

not yet? its 3 games in and the owners are backing Parkinson with more money for signings. Yes they putting together good squad which will need time to gel so why on earth would you sack Parkinson after 3 promotions in 3 seasons. Their owners seem very loyal and I don't see them sacking him if they don't go up. 

[Mattyblue]

We’ve no idea if their owners are loyal as they’ve strolled up from non league on huge budgets, so they haven’t had to make those decisions. 

They struggle this season and that’s a different conversation.
 

[roversfan99]

I never even said that they should sack him. 

The idea of him just automatically being given the season is a ridiculous suggestion. Theyve spent big money, if they are languishing near the bottom then I suspect (although we dont know what these owners will do having never been in this situation) they will probably pull the trigger, especially considering the money spent.

I wouldnt be surprised to see Parkinson underachieve, his track record at this level is poor. Different story when youve got by far the best/one of the 2 best squads in a poor division.

[Mattyblue]

He’s on a rolling contract too, so not exactly a financial issue either to pot him if necessary.

[RevidgeBlue]

I doubt Parkinson will last long even if they weren't particularly struggling. Now that they're at this level they'll find it very difficult to resist bringing in a "big" name with all the attention on the Club.

[DE.]

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