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I’m also unsure why the obsession with having or creating a precedent is.

As long as the EFL set out clearly what they took in account they’ll be able to justify different decisions in the future.

 

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7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Why would playing a partial game cost more than playing a full game??

Doesn't cost Ipswich any extra they're still travelling the same distance for 15 mins or 90.

Presume we'd be out of pocket on a partial re-run as opposed to the full 90 mins if it were held behind closed doors or people were let in for free.

It's easily.doable though. All that is needed is the willingness to do it. For the chance of a more or less guaranteed three points we ought to be champing at the bit if we were to get that chance.

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13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Why would playing a partial game cost more than playing a full game??

For the 15 minute option, presumably they wouldn't charge anyone with a ticket for the original game and income from hospitality etc would be zero but they would still need to pay stewards and police.

If it's a full replay, Rovers can refund 40% of the original ticket price and then charge full price again for the replay, sell hospitality tickets and get income from food and drinks. 

Pasha will be looking at this from a financial point of view and may well prefer the full replay

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Just now, Crimpshrine said:

For the 15 minute option, presumably they wouldn't charge anyone with a ticket for the original game and income from hospitality etc would be zero but they would still need to pay stewards and police.

If it's a full replay, Rovers can refund 40% of the original ticket price and then charge full price again for the replay, sell hospitality tickets and get income from food and drinks. 

Pasha will be looking at this from a financial point of view and may well prefer the full replay

If Pasha is thinking that way the list of why he should fuck off has just got even longer.

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14 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

For the 15 minute option, presumably they wouldn't charge anyone with a ticket for the original game and income from hospitality etc would be zero but they would still need to pay stewards and police.

If it's a full replay, Rovers can refund 40% of the original ticket price and then charge full price again for the replay, sell hospitality tickets and get income from food and drinks. 

Pasha will be looking at this from a financial point of view and may well prefer the full replay

If it's the last 10+stoppage it would just be behind closed doors, streamed online. They wouldn't bother paying concourse staff and stewards for 15 mins.

The argument that it's more difficult than a 90 mins game doesn't really wash.

And if we wanted a full 90 mins replay, it would have been announced by now because that's obviously what Ipswich want too.

Posted
6 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

How does it take this long to tell us it will be replayed?

Need to pretend that they have listened to both sides before announcing.

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20 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Decision won't be for a few days yet.

Might be sooner when it turns out Rovers neglected to press send, and as a result, Ipswich's suggestion passes unchallenged 😉 

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Yep it’s boring now just confirm the replay, let us have a whinge and move on 

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Now, if the club had any sense, this is a chance to turn a potential replay into a positive. 

Just have it be free tickets for everyone. Try to get as many in as possible. See it as a bonus fixture that can create new supporters and generate revenue from concessions. 

They won't do this, but it would be a silver lining if the full replay is required. 

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25 minutes ago, XLM said:

If it's the last 10+stoppage it would just be behind closed doors, streamed online. They wouldn't bother paying concourse staff and stewards for 15 mins.

The argument that it's more difficult than a 90 mins game doesn't really wash.

And if we wanted a full 90 mins replay, it would have been announced by now because that's obviously what Ipswich want too.

It's not more difficult but it is less beneficial financially. 

If the shortened match is behind closed doors then the club will have to issue refunds on the original match and get no income from the 15 minute match.  Pasha thinks in terms of pound notes, he doesn't care about the 3 points.  

Officially, the club will probably push for the 15 minute option but I know what Pasha would prefer.

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38 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Decision won't be for a few days yet.

I can only think that Rovers might include Ismael's comments from yesterday in their final submission (had they not already done so). If Ismael wasn't asked for his opinion by anybody yet the Ipswich manager was Rovers might point to Ipswich putting some pressure on the referee.

Clutching at straws perhaps but the more evidence and doubt we can put in the EFL's minds might just help.

Disclaimer:

I still think it will replayed wholly and 11 v 11.

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I genuinely think the delay is purely due to the EFL wanting to state the date for the replay in their decision. That requires agreement from all sides (including Police etc)

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15 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

I genuinely think the delay is purely due to the EFL wanting to state the date for the replay in their decision. That requires agreement from all sides (including Police etc)

Could they not just announce the decision and that a confirmed date will follow in due course?

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48 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Now, if the club had any sense, this is a chance to turn a potential replay into a positive. 

Just have it be free tickets for everyone. Try to get as many in as possible. See it as a bonus fixture that can create new supporters and generate revenue from concessions. 

They won't do this, but it would be a silver lining if the full replay is required. 

I won't be turning up for the replay - as a season ticket holder (boo hiss I know).

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20 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Could they not just announce the decision and that a confirmed date will follow in due course?

Of course they could - just have a feeling that the decision will be accompanied by the date for the replay. All angles covered - no public debates about when it should be played etc

Posted
9 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

Of course they could - just have a feeling that the decision will be accompanied by the date for the replay. All angles covered - no public debates about when it should be played etc

Makes sense

Posted
2 hours ago, Eddie said:

Now, if the club had any sense, this is a chance to turn a potential replay into a positive. 

Just have it be free tickets for everyone. Try to get as many in as possible. See it as a bonus fixture that can create new supporters and generate revenue from concessions. 

They won't do this, but it would be a silver lining if the full replay is required. 

They will at the very least be ordered to cover costs and try and make a few extra pennies so there'll be some sort of charge.

Meanwhile Ipswich will probably subsidise those who want to travel again.

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3 hours ago, KentExile said:

Might be sooner when it turns out Rovers neglected to press send, and as a result, Ipswich's suggestion passes unchallenged 😉 

The outcome would be 3pts to Rovers, if it was my decision. 1-0 up with around 10 minutes to go plus added on, there weren't many stoppages, and Ipswich down to 10 men. I'm sure any Ipswich supporter would think the same, if the glove was on the other hand.

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’m also unsure why the obsession with having or creating a precedent is.

As long as the EFL set out clearly what they took in account they’ll be able to justify different decisions in the future.

 

Agreed, they've already set (or continued) the precedent of asking both sides to put their case forward.

The facts are all known, they should just make the inevitable decision. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

If I’m the EFL I’m making a decision without taking representations from either side.

All that will happen now is they’ll be accused of listening to one side over the other.

 

 

 

 

Yep!! It’s a joke

the whole thing is a shambles

Why does it take so long if the ref has the ability to call off a match then they must have some rules about what they do next

ridiculous 

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