v Charlton Athletic (a) - 27/9/25

[StHelensRover]

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Well… I’ve never looked forward to reading an Elliott Jackson match report until today!

That was absolutely dreadful. 3-0 flattered us. Charlton squandered loads of really good chances. They absolutely bullied us, particularly second half. No positives to be taken out of that shit show.

Hopefully Forshaw is fit soon as I genuinely think he makes our strongest 11. What a testament to Gestede’s recruitment.

Imagine after when Rudy told us last season that we were in for an exciting summer, he had winked and whispered "I can confirm that by October Adam Forshaw will be crucial to our starting eleven"

[RevidgeBlue]

48 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

We're quite lucky its only been 2-0.

Errrrmmmmm.............

Four defeats out of six. Horrendous stuff.

Picking fights with the local press, likely to get sued by the kit supplier, staff both playing and non playing who can't wait to get away and leaving in droves. No replacement for Waggott as bad as he was.

The Club is in its death throes. I'll be astounded if we dont go down this season.

[Leonard Venkhater]

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Well… I’ve never looked forward to reading an Elliott Jackson match report until today!

That was absolutely dreadful. 3-0 flattered us. Charlton squandered loads of really good chances. They absolutely bullied us, particularly second half. No positives to be taken out of that shit show.

Hopefully Forshaw is fit soon as I genuinely think he makes our strongest 11. What a testament to Gestede’s recruitment.

Gestede is a narcissistic con-man. It really sickens me that a work experience novice has been given so much power. 

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, Leonard Venkhater said:

Gestede is a narcissistic con-man. 

Well he learnt from the best albeit Waggott was more Arthur Daley than narcissist.

[Leonard Venkhater]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Well he learnt from the best albeit Waggott was more Arthur Daley than narcissist.

Don't forget he worked with Steve Kean...

[davulsukur]

Absolutely fuming at that and its looking highly likely that we're in for a season in a relegation battle.

Never rated Ismael as a manager either, so 0 confidence he'll turn tbis around. 

The club will be forced into action, probably around Xmas when he has us rooted firmly in the bottom 3.

[Mike Graham]

EJ’s match report will be an interesting read.

I hope he includes Suhail, Sufi, Gestede and the rest of the politburo in his marks out of 10.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mike Graham

[JHRover]

17 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Gestede is a narcissistic con-man. It really sickens me that a work experience novice has been given so much power. 

They love to give novices power and responsibility beyond their standing in the game. Kean, Singh, Berg, Agnew, Hunt others, now Gestede and Pasha, neither of whom have any right to be anywhere near positions of such power in professional football. 

The owners enjoy this because these sort of people are so grateful for the opportunity that they'll sit quietly and put up with the Venky nonsense. Trouble is that the Club burns in the meantime, but they aren't arsed about that, as long as they can tell themselves they are wonderful and pay people to tell others they are.

[BigBar]

We really are a team full of nothing players. Felt alot more connected with the British/Irish influcence throughout the team, Hyam, Sammie, Beck, Travis, Dolan, Baath, Leonard and there is more on that list. Haven't felt so disconnected in a long long time.

Squad filled with foreign lads who appear less likely to stand up and fight or step out of line. Very deflating to watch.

[Mike Graham]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

They love to give novices power and responsibility beyond their standing in the game. Kean, Singh, Berg, Agnew, Hunt others, now Gestede and Pasha, neither of whom have any right to be anywhere near positions of such power in professional football. 

The owners enjoy this because these sort of people are so grateful for the opportunity that they'll sit quietly and put up with the Venky nonsense. Trouble is that the Club burns in the meantime, but they aren't arsed about that, as long as they can tell themselves they are wonderful and pay people to tell others they are.

Name one senior person in the Ewood Park and Brockhall staff who bleeds blue and white.

We do, that is why it hurts so much.  Especially when we have to look on and witness the mess being made at OUR club.

[aletheia]

49 minutes ago, AAK said:

so that nulls last seasons comparison.

No it doesn't.

A club should move forward season on season. If you have a huge clearout, then what you bring in should achieve at least what you have done previously.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, aletheia said:

No it doesn't.

A club should move forward season on season. If you have a huge clearout, then what you bring in should achieve at least what you have done previously.

This

[Mike Graham]

1 minute ago, aletheia said:

No it doesn't.

A club should move forward season on season. If you have a huge clearout, then what you bring in should achieve at least what you have done previously.

Nah.  Don’t forget we are “in transition”……..again.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Well he learnt from the best albeit Waggott was more Arthur Daley than narcissist.

Yep, it's getting really bad when you are looking back at a ducker and diver (Del Boy/Arthur Daley) with a certain amount of fondness (did i just say that) as opposed to an egotistical, childish, vindictive, underqualified, stasi like....etc etc

Edited 44 minutes ago by aletheia
infelicity

[Hasta]

55 minutes ago, AAK said:

The team is massively different from last season, so that nulls last seasons comparison.

It’s massively different because Venkys / Suhail / Gestede chose to chop it up and change it greatly. So forgive me for thinking that “not being nailed on for relegation” is a good outcome to their actions.

[M_B]

27 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Errrrmmmmm.............

Four defeats out of six. Horrendous stuff.

Picking fights with the local press, likely to get sued by the kit supplier, staff both playing and non playing who can't wait to get away and leaving in droves. No replacement for Waggott as bad as he was.

The Club is in its death throes. I'll be astounded if we dont go down this season.

I was thinking that the freak weather last week robbed us of a nice league run of 3 wins out of 4 going into today.

We'd have been looking up rather than down,what difference 10 minutes and a week make. 

[Hasta]

Caught Ismael’s radio Lancs interview. All angry about the penalty decision and the ref winking at Cantwell. Took the interviewer to point out that, regardless of that, we were pretty shit all afternoon.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hasta

[cesus]

A game to add to so many in recent years were we have not shown up. A goal down has had an instant feel of certain defeat, which came true.

The team at the end felt like square pegs in round holes and so disjointed, even the most blue and white bespectacled fan must see how thin the squad is going to be when we have a few injuries.

[lraC]

5 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Caught Ismael’s radio Lancs interview. All angry about the penalty decision and the ref winking at Cantwell. Took the interviewer to point out that, regardless of that, we were pretty shit all afternoon.

The interviewer needs to be careful, or he will get banned.

Only nice things allowed in the press. 

[USABlue]

51 minutes ago, Inferi said:

What a pathetic display. Struggling badly to even get out of our own half while 1-0 down against a poor side. A lot of poor performances but Tavares deserves a dishonorable mention.

He is so lazy and/or poor defensively. When he is on the pitch the opponents tend to just run through our midfield at will. 

I don't like Tavares at all he is weak and sureenders possesion all the time one way or another.  Bad move bringing him on.  MoriSHITa was awful today, Gudjohnson never got a kick, Big Mac was BigMac his Denielson do has not changed his habit of being offside.

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, Mike Graham said:

Nah.  Don’t forget we are “in transition”……..again.

Yeah, we're transitioning into an exhilarating high tempo, high pressing game with a team of athletic players.

Oooh errrr..... hang on.....

[aletheia]

10 minutes ago, M_B said:

I was thinking that the freak weather last week robbed us of a nice league run

Was it the weather or the penny-pinching tools in charge?

[aletheia]

Just another day in the rollercoaster. You can use this performance as an argument for relegation. Or you can reflect back on performances against Ipswich/Hull and think usual mid to lower half plodding. TBH, I think the league is so poor we will have enough.

Interestingly, for the first 15-20, thought we looked ok (if not exciting) and they looked dire -lumberers who were never going to score (their record for scoring not good). Was thinking at that stage how poor the championship really is. But then for 10 mins or so before the first goal on 31 min, they did really well breaking play up in their own third and hitting great long balls which caused us all sorts of trouble (and that was with Wharton playing well). Then the goal (simple free kick to far post, header, goal).  After that, we offered nothing.

Hedges should have been booked
Miller should have had 2 yellows and off
Pen wasn’t a pen
Pickering could have been booked late on

Don’t think there is anyone on our side who can take a strike like their 2nd?

We had one shot on target? Ohashi –who some say is crap (not me).  Meanwhile Gaye, offside again. Gud (who some think should start) –first 2 touches lost it, overpowered in midfield, offered little. Rovers crossing (mainly Cantwell) poor. Disjointed overall, not sure what the plan was. To be fair to Gud and Gaye, if you are going to play them, then you have to give them time and play to their strengths with good crosses.

Gardner Hickman is a utility player who can plug gaps (but not right back). Pointless berating him. Why not bring on McLoughlin and move Miller to RB? Incidentally, he looked like a second rate Scottish player.

Tronstad disinterested? Indeed. Wonder why that is? Counting down the days to escape the Stasi and shitshow.

Cantwell was looking for fouls that MAY have been given in the prem but was poor in a game like this. Charlton were rudimentary but nothing untoward –blaming the ref (as per) is just nonsense.

Don’t know about you, but I’m a bit sick of these journey men on easy street who haven’t delivered anything for years. Time to move them on and bring in fresh, hungry players (irony just to be clear).

I do hope EJ delivers an uncompromising report.

 

Edited 43 minutes ago by aletheia

[RTM08]

19 minutes ago, aletheia said:

No it doesn't.

A club should move forward season on season. If you have a huge clearout, then what you bring in should achieve at least what you have done previously.

Rudy said this squad is stronger than last season, so by his logic we should be in the play-off spots, not getting completely and utterly destroyed by Charlton.

[roverblue]

Didn’t see any of today but sounds like a deserved thumping. Hard to judge if it means anything as think we have done ok in our other games so far.

hopefully two home wins coming up to make us all feel better as looking bad points wise so far.