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Posted
49 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Well, as I have said before, life in the Championship is when all is looking lost suddenly out of nowhere you pull out a great performance. And inversely you begin to get a bit of hope and it kicks you in the nuts.

We've had a few of each already this season. Anyone who tries to predict anything (hello Merce!) is a hostage to total fortune.

I'll watch tonight expecting the worst, but knowing there is a decent chance I will be surprised again. I guess that's the addiction of football. The championship is a particularly virulent concoction of the unpredictable.

We've largely shown we are way better than that crap on Saturday so hopefully it was just one of those bad days at the office that plague most average Championship teams.

There was a lot to be annoyed about but it's done now so if we approach this like the Ipswich game it could be a good night.

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Posted
27 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I'm getting fed up with this now. 

The EFL have made the correct decision. You and others at Rovers might not like it given the circumstances, but that's how it is. It would be utterly ridiculous for them to let the result stand with probably 15 minutes+ left to play and even more ridiculous for them to have just played the last 10 minutes or so starting with Rovers being 1-0 up against 10 men. 

There is no precedent for it in English football history and for good reason - it wouldn't work and would open the floodgates to all sorts of shenanigans in future when there are issues with the weather, floodlights etc.

If you are angry about it I suggest you spend less time worrying about the EFLs difficult but ultimately correct decision and more of your time working out whether Rovers have invested sufficiently in their facilities to ensure the pitch is in the best possible condition to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen. 

I can safely say that Rovers could have done more, it isn't just the weather or the River Darwen, just as we had no issues with drainage getting games abandoned from 1992 - 2012.

I'm getting fed up people telling me I am wrong for my opinion. My view is should have been replayed from 79 mins with us winning 1 nil and 11 vs 10. 

The EFL board could have set a new precedent and done something new instead of bottling it. They were no precedent for our match situation for the EFL to follow so could have done something new for once. Also no point having 3 championship teams members on the board if they aren't going to vote and maybe its should be non-club related EFL board that makes these decisions instead of the current EFL board. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm getting fed up people telling me I am wrong for my opinion. My view is should have been replayed from 79 mins with us winning 1 nil and 11 vs 10. 

The EFL board could have set a new precedent and done something new instead of bottling it. They were no precedent for our match situation for the EFL to follow so could have done something new for once. Also no point having 3 championship teams members on the board if they aren't going to vote and maybe its should be non-club related EFL board that makes these decisions instead of the current EFL board. 

You've told me that I've been wrong for having an opinion for years now, calling me a conspiracy theorist and many other things simply for offering a view. 

Yes they could have set a new precedent. And it would have led to all sorts of chaos in future. That's why it has never been done before in a century of football, because as 'unfair' as the decision is on Rovers it is the only outcome that works and ensures fairness in the long run. 

My only criticism is that it took them a while to make their minds up and inevitably we are now going to wait until November or beyond for the game to be rearranged. As far as I am concerned it should have been replayed last Tuesday or Wednesday and bollocks to whether that was inconvenient for Ipswich or their fans. 

 

 

Posted
23 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You've told me that I've been wrong for having an opinion for years now, calling me a conspiracy theorist and many other things simply for offering a view. 

Yes they could have set a new precedent. And it would have led to all sorts of chaos in future. That's why it has never been done before in a century of football, because as 'unfair' as the decision is on Rovers it is the only outcome that works and ensures fairness in the long run. 

My only criticism is that it took them a while to make their minds up and inevitably we are now going to wait until November or beyond for the game to be rearranged. As far as I am concerned it should have been replayed last Tuesday or Wednesday and bollocks to whether that was inconvenient for Ipswich or their fans. 

 

 

I don't understand why its chaos, they are coming back to play a game of football whether its 10mins or 90mins. Just playing what is left with 11 vs 10 and at 1-0 is perfectly doable and would have been the fair outcome.

Just because something hasn't been done before is no excuse to never do it in the future.

Posted
2 hours ago, JHRover said:

I'm getting fed up with this now. 

The EFL have made the correct decision. You and others at Rovers might not like it given the circumstances, but that's how it is. It would be utterly ridiculous for them to let the result stand with probably 15 minutes+ left to play and even more ridiculous for them to have just played the last 10 minutes or so starting with Rovers being 1-0 up against 10 men. 

There is no precedent for it in English football history and for good reason - it wouldn't work and would open the floodgates to all sorts of shenanigans in future when there are issues with the weather, floodlights etc.

If you are angry about it I suggest you spend less time worrying about the EFLs difficult but ultimately correct decision and more of your time working out whether Rovers have invested sufficiently in their facilities to ensure the pitch is in the best possible condition to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen. 

I can safely say that Rovers could have done more, it isn't just the weather or the River Darwen, just as we had no issues with drainage getting games abandoned from 1992 - 2012.

Cool it. 

You can disagree and have an opinion one way or the other, but you can't be so confident in your own position.

They do it in other leagues, and it's a rare enough occurrence that relying on 'precedent' is really solid ground. 

Just let other people be frustrated by what was an undeniably frustrating sequence of events. Not only that, but regardless of how confident you are in the EFL's correct decision, there's also no denying the fact that Rovers got the short end of the stick in every aspect. 

 

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Posted

Go Get after it early tonight, weve  had 2 setbacks recently time to bounce back. 

COME ON YOU BLUES 🔵🔵

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Posted
2 hours ago, JHRover said:

I'm getting fed up with this now. 

The EFL have made the correct decision. You and others at Rovers might not like it given the circumstances, but that's how it is. It would be utterly ridiculous for them to let the result stand with probably 15 minutes+ left to play and even more ridiculous for them to have just played the last 10 minutes or so starting with Rovers being 1-0 up against 10 men. 

There is no precedent for it in English football history and for good reason - it wouldn't work and would open the floodgates to all sorts of shenanigans in future when there are issues with the weather, floodlights etc.

If you are angry about it I suggest you spend less time worrying about the EFLs difficult but ultimately correct decision and more of your time working out whether Rovers have invested sufficiently in their facilities to ensure the pitch is in the best possible condition to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen. 

I can safely say that Rovers could have done more, it isn't just the weather or the River Darwen, just as we had no issues with drainage getting games abandoned from 1992 - 2012.

I thought it was entirely the wrong decision, and Im surprised we havent appealed but you're right, from a purely footballing perspective there's no point whatsoever harking back to it or bemoaning our luck -we just have to get on with it.

You're also correct that the over-riding problem is the insufficient drainage and the negligent upkeep of the infrastructure at Ewood in general.

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Posted
2 hours ago, JHRover said:

There is no precedent for it in English football history and for good reason - it wouldn't work and would open the floodgates to all sorts of shenanigans in future when there are issues with the weather, floodlights etc.

I think this does does exactly that.

Come Saturday if it’s raining heavy again, and we're 2-0 down to Stoke, if I'm VI I'm telling my centre backs to go find a puddle and make sure a short pass sticks.

Even if there's very few puddles and standing water on the pitch, it's mainly playable, I'd be pointing them to the one big one, and saying - 'Go splash around in that!'

I.e. Shenanigans. 

If I know we're going to have to come back another day and start from 2-0 down, I wouldn't bother. What's the point.

Might as well carry on and see if we can get the conditions to help us bag a goal and get back into it. I.e. No shenanigans.

I actually can't see how coming back another day to play out a match can be used to someone's advantage, either side. Maybe if your team is knackered during gameplay and the rest might help. But the other side is going to be rested too. 

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Posted (edited)

A relief that Alebiosu starts. Hope we haven't rushed him back, mind. Thank god we've finally given up on the doomed Ohashi lone striker experiment. For now, anyway. 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, DE. said:

A relief that Alebiosu starts. Hope we haven't rushed him back, mind. Thank god we've finally given up on the doomed Ohashi lone striker experiment. For now, anyway. 

To be fair to Yuki I felt that he did more as the lone striker than Gudjohnsen on Saturday. He brought it down a few times but the gap between him and the midfield was enormous and he got no help. Not to say he was great, but as far as Rovers players in that game, for me he was one of the least bad. 

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's Wharton done to have deserved being dropped?

Or are we just managing his minutes?

Hopefully the second, because he was one of the only ones trying to put a shift in at the weekend.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

To be fair to Yuki I felt that he did more as the lone striker than Gudjohnsen on Saturday. He brought it down a few times but the gap between him and the midfield was enormous and he got no help. Not to say he was great, but as far as Rovers players in that game, for me he was one of the least bad. 

Ohashi can at best be OK in that position. Have to give Gudjohnsen a chance to show if he can do better. If he can't then it's going to be a grim season. Well, I'm sure it will regardless, but even more grim. 

Posted

Not really confident on a result but let’s be positive and go 2-1 Rovers with Gudjohnsen & Miroshita scoring.

Personally think to get the best out of Gudjohnsen & Ohashi is to work on a system where they both play.

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Posted

Montgomery on the bench is an odd one, can’t see us in a situation where he is called for, best getting minutes with the reserves 

Posted
1 minute ago, Tom said:

Montgomery on the bench is an odd one, can’t see us in a situation where he is called for, best getting minutes with the reserves 

Potentially for right back in Alebiosu can't last?

Posted

A difficult one to call.

Six new signings in the 11 (including 3 of the back 4) with a further 3 on the bench.  That is a big turnover.

Heart says Rovers will have 2 or 3 'moments' and will be enough to win the game 

Head says we lose an early goal and unravel.

Whatever happens, hope Gestede and Pasha get some very strong verbals 

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