bluebruce Posted yesterday at 10:58 Posted yesterday at 10:58 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: He put it on a good 4 hours after Nixon had already reported it. However, in fairness he did seem to double down on it when people said it wasn't happening because he came on for Birmingham. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 10:59 Posted yesterday at 10:59 1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said: And ? And they weren't big financial losses. Dennis was, but that was Waggott trying to be smart, rather than the Director of Football doing his job. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 11:01 Posted yesterday at 11:01 21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I would argue that he even put the required effort in. Even before comments about not running in training, numerous times I have seen him (not just this season) not put in the required work rate. As you say, there is a lot of revisionism on here. He hasnt been hard done by, hes just not up to it and thankfully we wont have to see him in a Rovers shirt again. He's 6'5". Asking him to press intensely is moronic. 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted yesterday at 11:04 Posted yesterday at 11:04 4 minutes ago, bluebruce said: However, in fairness he did seem to double down on it when people said it wasn't happening because he came on for Birmingham. The account also deleted a post stating it was a loan to buy when challenged on it their response was ‘I don’t know why I posted that’ guesswork at best 1 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted yesterday at 11:17 Backroom Posted yesterday at 11:17 (edited) Honestly to me it just shows how far we've sunk when people are desperately scrambling to extol the virtues of Makhtar Gueye. He's a very poor footballer who wouldn't have gotten near our team, even under Venky's, before severe cost cutting meant we were reduced to shopping in the bargain bin permanently. I wish him luck and have no ill will towards him, but in terms of standards he's far below what I want for my club. Edited yesterday at 11:17 by DE. 7 Quote
davulsukur Posted yesterday at 11:19 Posted yesterday at 11:19 As expected, we don't look like we are close to signing anymore players before the Hull game as the manager wanted. We are pretty desperate for a couple of Strikers and wingbacks. Shipping out Gueye is step in the right direction but we really need to get these players in ASAP, even if they don't make the Hull game, they need to be in before Ipswich. 1 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted yesterday at 11:22 Posted yesterday at 11:22 I'd be incredibly surprised if we brought in a striker, they command a higher fee than any other position and they've already outlayed on Andri this year. Quote
Comfortably numb Posted yesterday at 11:23 Posted yesterday at 11:23 Could do with this fellow in his heyday RIP Tony 5 Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 11:25 Posted yesterday at 11:25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'd be incredibly surprised if we brought in a striker, they command a higher fee than any other position and they've already outlayed on Andri this year. They brought in 2 last January, both on loan, both crap, one at an extortionate cost (for modern day Rovers) I have no doubt they will bring at least one striker in (we need 2), but I have little faith it will be of the quality required Edited yesterday at 11:30 by KentExile 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 11:32 Posted yesterday at 11:32 29 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: And they weren't big financial losses. Dennis was, but that was Waggott trying to be smart, rather than the Director of Football doing his job. But still a pointless spend instead of the money going towards decent investment. 'Punts' have replaced proper investment in a 2 or 3 for the price of one kind of way. Quote
Torgeir Posted yesterday at 11:39 Posted yesterday at 11:39 1 hour ago, TheKitGuy said: Every good striker needs confidence and consistent game time - of which he has neither. That's because he isn't good enough. He hasn't produced the good, whether it be off the bench or as a starter. He's useless in the press and keeps making silly fouls. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 1 Quote
TheKitGuy Posted yesterday at 11:46 Posted yesterday at 11:46 5 minutes ago, Torgeir said: That's because he isn't good enough. He hasn't produced the good, whether it be off the bench or as a starter. He's useless in the press and keeps making silly fouls. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. He's useless in the press because that's not his strong point. Would you ask peter Crouch to press? or Ryan Nelsen to be a ball playing centre back? you'd play to their strengths. Not every striker needs to press, and just because you can press doesn't mean you're any good! 2 1 Quote
Mercer Posted yesterday at 11:49 Posted yesterday at 11:49 23 minutes ago, Comfortably numb said: Could do with this fellow in his heyday RIP Tony RIP Tony. Joined Rovers in difficult times but was a joy to watch and contributed enormously to our improvement. A goal every other game forward who would walk into today's team. 4 Quote
Jimmy612 Posted yesterday at 11:52 Posted yesterday at 11:52 (edited) 4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: Washed our face with Ennis. Made a profit on Telalovic. By that metric we lost loads of money on Danny Graham and Bradley Dack. Who would you rather have playing for you? Edited yesterday at 11:56 by Jimmy612 1 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted yesterday at 12:02 Posted yesterday at 12:02 14 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: He's useless in the press because that's not his strong point. Would you ask peter Crouch to press? or Ryan Nelsen to be a ball playing centre back? you'd play to their strengths. Not every striker needs to press, and just because you can press doesn't mean you're any good! What's his strong point exactly? Quote
davulsukur Posted yesterday at 12:03 Posted yesterday at 12:03 40 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'd be incredibly surprised if we brought in a striker, they command a higher fee than any other position and they've already outlayed on Andri this year. We can't not sign a striker. Even when Gudjohnsen is back fit we need an option off the bench/for rotation. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 12:05 Posted yesterday at 12:05 42 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I'd be incredibly surprised if we brought in a striker, they command a higher fee than any other position and they've already outlayed on Andri this year. Yeah I don't see us buying one. Either a loan, or someone like Riberio/Forshaw where the player will be able to negotiate a cancelled contract and join on a short term deal that might be extended in the summer. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 12:19 Posted yesterday at 12:19 26 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: By that metric we lost loads of money on Danny Graham and Bradley Dack. Who would you rather have playing for you? Which version of Bradley Dack? Quote
den Posted yesterday at 12:35 Posted yesterday at 12:35 32 minutes ago, Torgeir said: What's his strong point exactly? He hasn’t got any. None. 1 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 12:43 Posted yesterday at 12:43 (edited) Big Mak knocked that ball right into Weismann's patch at Turf Moor and I thought "We've got a handful here". However the next 14 months proved it was a bit of a fluke. For someone so big, his aerial prowess was poor. He often was out jumped by shorter centre halves, and when he did win headers they weren't the knock down from the Burnley game, they either flicked on to nobody or were aimless. He is a poor header of the ball, and has a poor leap for such a big guy. He has certain odd games (West Brom away was it?) where it seemed to click and defences struggled to handle him. But generally he's been disappointing. Would I rather have him upfront for the last 10 minutes instead on Henriksson. Yes (if he stayed onside). But generally, for the money we paid, there has to be better options available. Edited yesterday at 12:44 by Hasta Quote
TheKitGuy Posted yesterday at 12:44 Posted yesterday at 12:44 40 minutes ago, Torgeir said: What's his strong point exactly? Winning headers and making defenders think, a 6'4 defender playing against a 5'10 striker is a walk in the park. If we played a bit of route one or more crosses with a Gueye type figure in and around the box, the defenders would have to think more. In his early days he put himself about and was a physical presence as time grew on and his confidence lowered this impacted his style of play as well as him coming on for the last 8 minutes being told to press the centre backs. This is why we never saw the best of him. 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted yesterday at 12:54 Posted yesterday at 12:54 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheKitGuy said: He's useless in the press because that's not his strong point. Would you ask peter Crouch to press? or Ryan Nelsen to be a ball playing centre back? you'd play to their strengths. Not every striker needs to press, and just because you can press doesn't mean you're any good! Slightly off topic but this, I think, is an issue with modern managers. They can’t adapt to the players at their disposal resulting in them playing the same system/tactics etc ‘come what may’ Edited yesterday at 12:54 by wilsdenrover 7 Quote
MarkBRFC71 Posted yesterday at 12:59 Posted yesterday at 12:59 4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Slightly off topic but this, I think, is an issue with modern managers. They can’t adapt to the players at their disposal resulting in them playing the same system/tactics etc ‘come what may’ Modern managers? Or what we have - shite ones? 1 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 13:08 Posted yesterday at 13:08 13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Slightly off topic but this, I think, is an issue with modern managers. They can’t adapt to the players at their disposal resulting in them playing the same system/tactics etc ‘come what may’ I think it stems from the bizarre way that football clubs all seem to be run nowadays. People in suits telling the actual qualified manager what type of football to play. All this shite about philosophies etc. 3 Quote
TheKitGuy Posted yesterday at 13:10 Posted yesterday at 13:10 6 minutes ago, MarkBRFC71 said: Modern managers? Or what we have - shite ones? They have a point in the fact that Anorim refused to adapt his 3-5-2 system which was his downfall, the players he had didn't fit the system. a 3-5-2 requires seriously talented centre backs and wing backs (hence why it doesn't work here either). we should really be playing a 4-1-3-2 with Gueye knocking it down to Ohashi/Gudjohnsen. Quote
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