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37 minutes ago, yankfan said:

Good read and a load of disgusting yet unsurprising documents to cover up the corruption and incompetence 

https://sportingintelligence832.substack.com/p/revealed-the-blackburn-files-from

 

What's the point of all this nearly 15 years on?

A lot of innuendo from Harris without actually revealing anything we didnt already know or anything particularly significant.

Posted
43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's the point of all this nearly 15 years on?

A lot of innuendo from Harris without actually revealing anything we didnt already know or anything particularly significant.

What a completely ridiculous comment.

I suppose we shouldn't discuss any events that happened in the past because we already know what happened.

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29 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

What a completely ridiculous comment.

I suppose we shouldn't discuss any events that happened in the past because we already know what happened.

It's not ridiculous at all.

What we need is an up to date Expose' of some genuine significance which might make a difference.

 Not a tired old rehash of ancient events which, rightly or wrongly were examined and passed off by the relevant Authorities as "nothing to see here" at the time.

Posted
5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's the point of all this nearly 15 years on?

A lot of innuendo from Harris without actually revealing anything we didnt already know or anything particularly significant.

Not everyone within our fans base is your age, nor have they followed the club as long as you have.

Do you really think a 19 year old rovers fan was keeping tabs on things like this at the time, when they were at primary school? 

A huge chunk of our fan base are the younger generation, increasing awareness to them is important. They'll be aware of the most recent shit show obviously, but the Venky rats regime goes back much further.

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Posted
9 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's the point of all this nearly 15 years on?

A lot of innuendo from Harris without actually revealing anything we didnt already know or anything particularly significant.

I think a lot of people (Rovers fans as well), have dismissed a lot of stuff that we know happened as speculation/rumour. Now a load of supporting documents have been released, it puts the evidence out there for all to see.

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Posted

Problem is 15 years later I don't think anyone really cares anymore.

Its just a huge shrug of the shoulders all round.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Problem is 15 years later I don't think anyone really cares anymore.

Its just a huge shrug of the shoulders all round.

Yeah, I don't disagree but it at least confirms that it wasn't rumours/scaremongering as a lot of people said at the time.

Not many cared at the time either, sadly.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

I think a lot of people (Rovers fans as well), have dismissed a lot of stuff that we know happened as speculation/rumour. Now a load of supporting documents have been released, it puts the evidence out there for all to see.

But what of any significance or interest was uncovered by Harris in the first place other than the fact that he received numerous Solicitors' letters from the Club at the time?

What went on was examined from all sides and deemed rightly or wrongly not to be actionable. It might be the only time ever I agreed with anything Jack Straw said, but, he was right when he said "It's not an offence to run a Club badly".

In fact overall if you look at the link to Harris's previous article he's broadly supportive of the owners and concludes they were well meaning but naive and badly advised in the early years and continued to be supportive for many years thereafter.

Imo Harris and anyone else would be better served concentrating on the period from around the time they stopped funding to the Club, we had the Court case in India, and Waggott made the infamous interview about how it was the Club's turn to start giving the owners something back,  and made the ridiculous white lie about purchasing a new team bus.

The over-riding problem remains I suppose that as long as you're not doing anything illegal - it's still not an offence to run a Club badly.

As long as all bills are paid etc it's not an offence to asset strip the Club, starve it of the funding required to thrive and leave it to gradually wither and die on the vine as is happening currently.

The only people that can ultimately effect change are other shareholders (not applicable in this case) or the fanbase. 

Harris or others can serve a purpose by highlighting current or recent events which are highly unsatisfactory if not technically illegal and it might just galvanise the fanbase into a little more dissent.

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1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

But what of any significance or interest was uncovered by Harris in the first place other than the fact that he received numerous Solicitors' letters from the Club at the time?

What went on was examined from all sides and deemed rightly or wrongly not to be actionable. It might be the only time ever I agreed with anything Jack Straw said, but, he was right when he said "It's not an offence to run a Club badly".

In fact overall if you look at the link to Harris's previous article he's broadly supportive of the owners and concludes they were well meaning but naive and badly advised in the early years and continued to be supportive for many years thereafter.

Imo Harris and anyone else would be better served concentrating on the period from around the time they stopped funding to the Club, we had the Court case in India, and Waggott made the infamous interview about how it was the Club's turn to start giving the owners something back,  and made the ridiculous white lie about purchasing a new team bus.

The over-riding problem remains I suppose that as long as you're not doing anything illegal - it's still not an offence to run a Club badly.

As long as all bills are paid etc it's not an offence to asset strip the Club, starve it of the funding required to thrive and leave it to gradually wither and die on the vine as is happening currently.

The only people that can ultimately effect change are other shareholders (not applicable in this case) or the fanbase. 

Harris or others can serve a purpose by highlighting current or recent events which are highly unsatisfactory if not technically illegal and it might just galvanise the fanbase into a little more dissent.

Why does it always divert away from the owners and to Waggott?

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1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Why does it always divert away from the owners and to Waggott?

Not diverting away from the owners at all.

All the Anderson/Shebby Singh chaos predated Waggott. The fact we were appallingly run was never in doubt. The question was whether anything illegal or sufficiently in breach of FA guidelines had occurred.

Rightly or wrongly the Authorities must have decided at the time it hadn't.

Why do you always leap to Waggott’s defence?

Posted
21 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not diverting away from the owners at all.

All the Anderson/Shebby Singh chaos predated Waggott. The fact we were appallingly run was never in doubt. The question was whether anything illegal or sufficiently in breach of FA guidelines had occurred.

Rightly or wrongly the Authorities must have decided at the time it hadn't.

Why do you always leap to Waggott’s defence?

Its not leaping to Waggott's defence. But historically you have regularly diverted blame away from the owners.

Posted
1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Rightly or wrongly the Authorities must have decided at the time it hadn't.

Or was it simply a timely relegation? FA working with Kentaro don't forget, all potentially very embarrassing.

"Oh and do yourselves a favour Blackburn Rovers, under your current board room structure, don't hurry back to the Premier League. Neither of us need it."

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