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3 hours ago, JoeH said:

3200 Sheffield Wednesday fans (at a guess by the weekend) x £40.00 = £128,000
5900 Sheffield Wednesday fans (last year) x £24.00 = £141,600

What was the point in the £40 price for Sheffield Wednesday fans again?

In my view to boost sales of the three game offer.

”All about creating (the illusion of) value”.

People ask why Waggott isn’t seen as on the fans‘ side. They need to look at what he does with his pricing policies and not what he says.

- ST prices have increased

- Shirt costs have increased

- Walk-on costs have rocketed

- Food/drink prices have rocketed

Meanwhile we have 1875 club incentives, tacky £350 lottery tickets to win 10k, pithy bundles trying to incentivise fans to buy into the higher pricing policy. “Buy a ST it’s cheaper” while putting up the price of everything else to make it appear so. While ignoring the fact that your average Blackburner doesn’t have a big wallet - and they aren’t even spending it in the pub (which is why the pub trade is shrinking as quickly as the Rovers fanbase!)

If he doesn’t, can’t, or won’t try to understand - let alone increase - his catchment area, and look at a lower margin, higher volume model then we are never going to see the fanbase grow.

Fortunately-well-off (I can afford it so should they) or die-hard (I’d rather follow Rovers and go without) fans may take a different view but they are already here!

If you want to attract more affluent out of town folk then you need to make the brand a lot more appealing and floundering around with a manager whose ambition or ability will see us 14th at best isn’t going to work either.

Billionaire owners and we are scratting around trying to increase revenues by tapping up the same beleaguered fans. Is it any wonder there is no atmosphere at Ewood and more vociferous fans would rather give their money to away clubs than to Rovers?

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As of first thing this morning Wednesday have sold 2612 source Owls talk

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Looks like it is justified then but i suppose you can find enough out of half of a city that size keen enough at the end of the day.

Personally i don't care how loyal or passionate a fan you are or whether you can afford it you have to be off your rocker to pay that for a second tier football match.  Asking to be ripped off time and again and playing right into the hands of the suits half of who are laughing at it and just thinking about their own bonuses or payrises.

Times like this fans should stick together and stick two fingers up at it but there is nowt more weird than people.

Then again they probably think it is a nailed on 3 points they don't even half to worry about going several goals behind !

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6 hours ago, JHRover said:

I remember playing Cardiff at home 1st game of the season on a Friday night live on TV just after they had been relegated. Darwen End lower divided between home and away fans. BBE upper open. 15,600 on. Maybe 2000 or so Cardiff fans on so 13000-14000 home fans. All areas of ground open. Felt good that night. The ground felt good and it was a good atmosphere.

Now we are down to 10,000 with two stands closed it feels awful.

Think they brought about 1800 that night, great effort from them.

That was when GB had spent the summer coming out with similar soundbites to Mowbray and made a couple of positives signings so hope was up. It evaporated within about ten mins when it was clear he'd set up for a draw at home first game of the season. Compounded totally when the centre back playing at right back got injured, went off and he left the RB on the bench and moved Lowe to right back.

You have to ask why there wasn't a similar buzz first home game this until you realise we've seen and heard it all before, when you know you know. Therefore something needs doing on and off the pitch if they want to get more in.

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There is a firework display on after the game on Saturday. My mate has just said he might move his seat and take his two kids with him (aged 6 and 8).

£11 each for under 11 in the BBE. It's £5 against Barnsley. That's over double the price for under 11's to come and watch a firework display.

Now if I remember rightly there were quite a lot of people stopped behind for the fireworks last time they did this. There were also probably parents who attended to bring the kids because of the fireworks.  It should be free for kids with a paying adult for something like this, not doubling the price.

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This type of marketing actually turns me off, like tonight in Tesco , Pasta n Sauce £1.10 each or 3 for £1.80 cheeky gets trying to force you into something. I hate that type of shit. I just don’t buy it then on principle. Just price 1 at a reasonable price and I’ll always buy

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Sunderland have a great promotion on. Yet again.

Spend 50 quid in there megastore get two match tickets free.

Surely we should be looking at similar.

Over to you Rovers and Waggott.

 

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29 minutes ago, Scotland1 said:

Sunderland have a great promotion on. Yet again.

Spend 50 quid in there megastore get two match tickets free.

Surely we should be looking at similar.

Over to you Rovers and Waggott.

 

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Waggot expects you to pay £40 to get in and £45 for a shirt. Good deal that 

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Hull are doing half price tickets around the ground for an upcoming match. Not the first time they've done that this season.

Their owner is reacting to their plummeting gates.

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Just now, JHRover said:

Hull are doing half price tickets around the ground for an upcoming match. Not the first time they've done that this season.

Their owner is reacting to their plummeting gates.

What was the attendance. What percentage increase. What did they charge and what is the normal cost.    

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I'm a season ticket holder and have recently joined the 18 75 club to bring my family to the Sheffield Wednesday match. I learned you only get 1 discounted ticket, I got 15 of an adult but still charged 11 quid each for 2 under 6s. No real saving once you factor in the cost of membership, I saved a fiver. The membership would however be really good if I was not a season ticket holder, I got 5 in club cash and would get 3 quid of match tickets without any increases. 

 

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33 minutes ago, AshleyClifford said:

I'm a season ticket holder and have recently joined the 18 75 club to bring my family to the Sheffield Wednesday match. I learned you only get 1 discounted ticket, I got 15 of an adult but still charged 11 quid each for 2 under 6s. No real saving once you factor in the cost of membership, I saved a fiver. The membership would however be really good if I was not a season ticket holder, I got 5 in club cash and would get 3 quid of match tickets without any increases. 

 

Complicated. And then they wonder why people can't be bothered. 

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53 minutes ago, AshleyClifford said:

I'm a season ticket holder and have recently joined the 18 75 club to bring my family to the Sheffield Wednesday match. I learned you only get 1 discounted ticket, I got 15 of an adult but still charged 11 quid each for 2 under 6s. No real saving once you factor in the cost of membership, I saved a fiver. The membership would however be really good if I was not a season ticket holder, I got 5 in club cash and would get 3 quid of match tickets without any increases. 

 

"Club cash" is not cash. It's credit towards overpriced tat in the club shop.

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Just now, MCMC1875 said:

"Club cash" is not cash. It's credit towards overpriced tat in the club shop.

It's money towards things that they otherwise wouldn't have though. 

This is coming from someone who has never used theirs!

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1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Hull are doing half price tickets around the ground for an upcoming match. Not the first time they've done that this season.

Their owner is reacting to their plummeting gates.

He's gone a long way to causing them with his cackhanded running of that club so perhaps he's taking a bit of responsibility back. Be interesting to see if they follow that up with any cheap ST deals next season.  Like us they always had a stadium a bit too big for them but being a large area i suppose it was justified when they were doing ok in the Prem.

Their gates have plummeted and there are similarities between that guys tenure and Venkys although at least he did deliver the Prem at one point. Us however are still supposed to be eternally grateful to these owners and manager for promotion from league one.....after they plonked us there in the first place for the first time in 40 years.

 

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If you want to see how good marketing works look at Sale Sharks this week. They're not a fashionable club. Less than a minute on the premiership highlights most weeks even if they wipe the floor with the opposition but they know how to cash in on good times. This week Ben Curry has been on Breakfast TV and 5live and would have been on Sportsday but for events at Westminster. Then today they've had breakfast tv at their training ground at Carrington. They're offering free bacon sandwiches to ST holders who turn up tomorrow to watch the World Cup final at the club. And if England win the World Cup they're giving away 100 half season tickets. They have a marketing dept actively seeking opportunities to connect with fans and riding the wave of international player success. Compare with Rovers who seem to miss opportunities to connect with their fans at every possible moment. I know this is a one off opportunity for Sale but they've certainly worked out how to milk it

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Just now, gumboots said:

If you want to see how good marketing works look at Sale Sharks this week. They're not a fashionable club. Less than a minute on the premiership highlights most weeks even if they wipe the floor with the opposition but they know how to cash in on good times. This week Ben Curry has been on Breakfast TV and 5live and would have been on Sportsday but for events at Westminster. Then today they've had breakfast tv at their training ground at Carrington. They're offering free bacon sandwiches to ST holders who turn up tomorrow to watch the World Cup final at the club. And if England win the World Cup they're giving away 100 half season tickets. They have a marketing dept actively seeking opportunities to connect with fans and riding the wave of international player success. Compare with Rovers who seem to miss opportunities to connect with their fans at every possible moment. I know this is a one off opportunity for Sale but they've certainly worked out how to milk it

Waggott: "As a club we've done everything", "There's nothing in the budget".

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1 hour ago, AshleyClifford said:

What was the attendance. What percentage increase. What did they charge and what is the normal cost.    

10,285  on at home to QPR, week later against Derby with reduced prices 16,326, just under an increase of 60%.

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They are applying big city big club logic to what has become very much back to its small town roots.

This was predicted though on here when Waggot arrived having been at Charlton and Coventry.  Arguably lesser profile clubs yes but one in a London suburb and one all on its own in a city 3 times the size of Blackburn.

What works there has never worked here, clue is in the likes of Bradford and Huddersfield, that's what works in these areas.  Anything else is to coin the phrase of another well meaning but slightly deluded one 'kicking the can down the street'.

Big club in a small town said John Williams when we were stable in the Prem averaging 22k.  Sadly not anymore we are what we are now.

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41 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

"Club cash" is not cash. It's credit towards overpriced tat in the club shop.

Its a discount on products in the club shop. Ive got over 30 pounds in my club account. Ive used my 1875 club membership this weekend to buy a adult and kid tickets for this weekend game for a friend and her daughter.  It will be 1st game for them both. They looking forward to it. 

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40 minutes ago, gumboots said:

If you want to see how good marketing works look at Sale Sharks this week. They're not a fashionable club. Less than a minute on the premiership highlights most weeks even if they wipe the floor with the opposition but they know how to cash in on good times. This week Ben Curry has been on Breakfast TV and 5live and would have been on Sportsday but for events at Westminster. Then today they've had breakfast tv at their training ground at Carrington. They're offering free bacon sandwiches to ST holders who turn up tomorrow to watch the World Cup final at the club. And if England win the World Cup they're giving away 100 half season tickets. They have a marketing dept actively seeking opportunities to connect with fans and riding the wave of international player success. Compare with Rovers who seem to miss opportunities to connect with their fans at every possible moment. I know this is a one off opportunity for Sale but they've certainly worked out how to milk it

We know rovers marketing department is shit, it’s run by people who are related to directors or owners and has been for ages.  
 

I don’t think it’s fair comparison because Sale are playing in the premier league of rugby union and have no competition geographically from what I can see.....the rise of Accy, Chorley, Fylde (to a lesser extent) , plus all the their local clubs will have an effect, so I’m not sure I accept your analogy 

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I've acknowledged it's a one off for Sale. But Rovers had an albeit smaller chance to ride the crest of their wave when we were promoted and nobody grabbed the chance. It's more attitude I'm talking about.  Not the size of the opportunity.  It's about making the most of whatever chances come your way and looking at situations to see if you can make something from what's on offer Growing their fanbase is important to them. It doesn't seem to be important at Rovers

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1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

We know rovers marketing department is shit, it’s run by people who are related to directors or owners and has been for ages.   

If by that comment you are suggesting that Greg Coar is related to Rob Coar then you are completely wrong. As others have said on this thread Greg is from a long standing Rovers supporting family and is one of the good guys, as in truth are the majority of staff at Ewood.

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1 hour ago, AAK said:

10,285  on at home to QPR, week later against Derby with reduced prices 16,326, just under an increase of 60%.

That is a decent increase to be fair. Playing devils advocate our attendances have not fallen as far (in fact they are generally on the rise) - did Derby bring more away fans than QPR ?  Have they played since - What was the attendance ?

 

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