Spot on. I have known a few mates that have had some really serious issues with it and they do not have the kind of spare cash floating around that these kids do. I guess its all relative though, 1/4, 1/2, 2/3 of your salary is 1/4, 1/2, 2/3 of your salary no matter what you're earning. For many it is not so much the possible financial gains, it is more that high when you win. Of course, once you get behind you then start to chase the losses and things get worse there on in. Never been much of a gambler me - tenner on the grand national and a few friendly games of low stakes poker is about as far as I go.

Was an attempt at a crude joke I am guessing lol

Very poorly written. They are saying we picked him up when in the Championship from L1 Gils and that his first season at this level got him 18 goals from 42 appearances.

Not quite, they picked up one in Edwards and the rest were pretty much his old players for Shrewsbury that had just had a miracle one-off season.

I wouldnt be starting him ahead of DG anyway but he needs to be his direct replacement when he invariably tires in games. That said, somebody highlighted how many points we have dropped once DG is off the pitch - though whether this is actually linked or as a team mentally and/or tactically we just do not have the ability to hold on to winning positions is another debate.

Haha - no way they can afford that. Stranger things have happened I suppose.

Wonder what Gils percentage will be in this?

Man Utd out then.

Travis needs L1 at worst and regular time. He has looked good playing for us in cameos, so i would certainly not be sending him to L2

Rodwell is a CM and a very good one at that - get him playing CM alongside Reed and i am certain we will be better off.

4-4-2 will never happen under TM.

did you watch it a fair bit Alex?

Change thread title by removing last minute.

QPR beating Boro just shows that we yet again dropped points we should have taken. We were against ten men too - Boro are that early favorite that will fall like a stone and we should have sped that process up as they are terrible at the minute. Dropped points will be what this season will be remembered for on our part.

We have thrown more points away when in winning positions than any other team in the league - if you just took the 2+2 points thrown in the last two matches, we're touching the playoffs. We're 12th now and this is probably where we're going to finish, maybe a little lower. Would have taken it at start of season of course but when you consider the points we've thrown away, it really should have been better.

Well that was fun yesterday. Board was down, couldnt find a river, we were 2-0, finally found a stream for a few minutes - unfortunately it was the few minutes we threw the game away. The stream then went down - how fantastic! What was going on with the forum?

I think he could potentially be top flight material - lets face it, he is attracting clubs for his performances in the Championship after all. There is only one more step to make and he has to be among the highest scoring midfielders/attacking midfielders in the division so far. English, still young enough. Not only that but he makes us tick creatively, he is the man that more often than not makes things happen. Even when he is marked out of a game and is less effective, you can bet he will still be involved in anything good going on in the forward department. I think around better players he could really shine tbh - he has a lot on his shoulders here as he 'is' the spark, the creativeness most of the time - who else is there? Reed is the energy but when it comes to a clever pass, a clever run, taking on a player, that technique and control, there is nobody else in our team. Palmer perhaps has some of that but he isnt ours.

Could have just flicked it back inside for Mulgrew before he made that last fatal turn.

Thought Baptiste was pretty good in his stint with us. How old is he now - yes i am that lazy.

Doubt we are the only fixture. If it was same games won and same goals scored - now that would be amazing lol

Not sure he would have ended up at a top championship club tbh, though he would have been a good 'freebie' for someone. Not sure a single club has sniffed around him since being with us which you would expect if he was good enough for one of the better teams. That said, he has been very good last season and this so far, so happy for him to get an extension. Just hope he proves me wrong now and does not drop his effort levels.

Certainly not on the level of a Dack, Graham or Mulgrew renewal. The timing of the announcement again is quite funny considering he could and probably should have scored a couple at the weekend - and then building up the excitement with a clip of his 4 goals.

Our very own Youth Team Coach Damien Johnson is another.

But even King had more to his game than kick and run, he could at least take players on with a bit of skill and had a bit of height. Its AA's finishing that has really let him down - something that he seemed to have last season. If he could finish he would not be too far behind Dack in terms of goals this season when you consider the chances he has had. That lack of goals highligts his other weaknesses more as nobody would care too much as long as he was knocking in some goals.

Yup, like why couldnt he have just used his left leg?