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[Archived] Transfers Part 2

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Dreams of 1995

Dreams of 1995

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18 minutes ago, JAL said:

A top goal keeper and two quality strikers for a start. 

But who? Name some players. All I ever read from you is how awful players are, whether that's Nyambe or the new signing Whittingham. Name some players you would like to be signed who you consider good players.

Quite frankly I think Whittingham is a gre....good signing. He is experience which will probably be essential if the rumours of us getting rid of Mulgrew come true and the fact we are likely to field developing players. Other than his experience he's good with the ball, is a set piece specialist and has been a leader throughout his career. He also has a promotion under his belt and has been named in the team of the season on several occasions.

In respect of his role at Blackburn Rovers he will be filling a hole in the midfield. We've lacked creativity from the centre of midfield all season and Whittingham provides just that. His experience will help in game management, his football brain aid in dictating the tempo and his range of passing free up our wingers and, hopefully, our new strikers. Whittingham is the type of player we have been missing all season and his mind and ability might have seen us hold onto more leads. 

I want you to explain why this isn't a good signing. So far you've just given us absolute drivel. It's the same level of nonsense you spewed out over Nyambe. Both you and Chaddy are two sides of the same coin and perhaps this is why you are both like toddlers arguing over anything and everything.

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tomphil

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Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Let's keep it strictly transfers. 

Bored of all the politics. 

I'll make a politics thread for you people who disagree constantly, and become personal? 

It'll still be the most viewed thread :lol:

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3 hours ago, Glosrover said:

harder one to judge......struggling to compare him to any particular person or type of player from what Ive seen of him [admittedly not that much].  Closest is maybe Tom Ince ?  not quite a winger, not quite a striker, pacey and direct, cuts in and shoots.  Wouldn't say he's massively 'trickey' as a wide player though.  Interesting contrast to Doidge though - Marsh-Brown I think was at Fulham for a good while and on the fringe of making it, then loaned out a lot before landing at Oldham I think [may have been Bury] played League 1 then released to Barnet from whom FGR signed him.  So whereas Doidge on the face of it didn't make it and was dropped to non-league straight away, and has been pulled back upwards, Marsh-Brown has gradually drifted downwards, ,which isn't always a good sign of someone's attitude and desire!

That said, he's one of FGR's 'rated' players and probably too good for the level he was at last year.  

If the National League is genuinely to be the 'lucky dip' for the 'real Rovers' then there are others that might be worth a pot....the best player I saw playing at FGR last year by a mile was Lincoln's winger, [something Arnold ]fast, tricky and looked like he had a goal in him every time he was in space.   BRFC have a decent record of buying non-league players called Arnold [nostalgia for us 50 somethings ] A couple of years back the FGR player who looked like he had something about him was Elliot Frear, fast tricky and great crosser - think he left for Motherwell in SPL, or Sr Mirren - never heard of him since!  

The National League is now a very good league and in some ways very little margin to the lower league 2 clubs, despite lots of the players being part-time pros.  Lots of the best players and that was certainly true of FGR are the full-time pros, and the big fish small pond rule applies.  In the same way, League 1 and 2 clubs [maybe even Championship ] that stand out and become successful are defined by the quality of the loan players they bring in.  The Bristol clubs last year both had very successful Chelsea loanees of 18/19 year old age, both made a huge difference to their squads.  

Sorry this has gone on a bit and away from what was asked, but in essence I can't help feeling that if in BRFC's position you add more than one lower league player to your team, that's where you're headed.  Don't mind a speculative punt, but I feel we haven't the cash to risk that with the better, higher profile Nat'l league players and the targets this year have to be reliably good enough to be first teamers.  Speculative could end up as Vardy or Varney................

Thank you for that! I always enjoy a good chat about Non League teams, players and football :) will bother you again for a few names and have a good conversation about it haha

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2 hours ago, JAL said:

Sounds like you given in and have come to accept whatever is put before you which is fair enough. 

33 year old championship player to me is far from great more like another footballer.

Let's see if Mowbray can raise his low standards higher with the next signing or two.

 

 

So did you say the same when Waggy arrived at the club?  Did you moan when Big Mac arrived and saved us from relegation?  No doubt you were furious when Mark Hughes and Salgado were signed.  You really are a WUM of the first order.  

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Just now, Parsonblue said:

So did you say the same when Waggy arrived at the club?  Did you moan when Big Mac arrived and saved us from relegation?  No doubt you were furious when Mark Hughes and Salgado were signed.  You really are a WUM of the first order.  

To be fair Parson, I don't see anything wrong with JAL or anyone else questioning the signing of 33 year old midfielders. There's also a list a mile long of older players we've signed over the years who have been very bad signings. Should we start with John Aston, John Radford, Danny Murphy?

picking out individuals proves nothing really. At that age, I reckon for every good 'un we've signed, we've signed ten bad 'uns..

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Just now, den said:

To be fair Parson, I don't see anything wrong with JAL or anyone else questioning the signing of 33 year old midfielders. There's also a list a mile long of older players we've signed over the years who have been very bad signings. Should we start with John Aston, John Radford, Danny Murphy?

picking out individuals proves nothing really. At that age, I reckon for every good 'un we've signed, we've signed ten bad 'uns..

We've signed many young players who proved to be awful.  The time to judge is when you watch them in action - not that JAL will get anywhere near Ewood Park to watch them - not to whinge and moan before they've even played at game.

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Just now, Parsonblue said:

We've signed many young players who proved to be awful.  The time to judge is when you watch them in action - not that JAL will get anywhere near Ewood Park to watch them - not to whinge and moan before they've even played at game.

I think it's fair to question a players age. 

JAL being pessimistic?  Never ?

Hes not on his own though.

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16 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

So did you say the same when Waggy arrived at the club?  Did you moan when Big Mac arrived and saved us from relegation?  No doubt you were furious when Mark Hughes and Salgado were signed.  You really are a WUM of the first order.  

Your out of order Parsonblue !

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Just now, JAL said:

Your out of order Parsonblue !

So didn't you like Waggy?  Was Big John a waste of space?  Hughes and Salgado over the hill and simply here because of their agents?  As I said, you're a WUM merchant - but a good one I'll give you that.

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Time Gentlemen Please!

Nothing at all to do with transfers, like a lot of this thread, but take a break down nostalgia lane.

On this day in football history way back in 1911 Bob Crompton, Blackburn Rovers and England full-back and Captain, was awarded with a portrait of himself for creating a then new record of 24 international appearances for England. This beat Steve Bloomer's record of 23. Crompton's international career lasted from 1902 to 1920 and he eventually played in 34 International Championship matches and 8 against continental opposition.

It should be remembered that in his day very few matches were played against foreign opposition.

Bob Crompton, a Blackburn lad, spent his entire career at full-back for Rovers, playing 530 games between 1896 and 1920.

The legend Charles Buchan describing him as "...the outstanding full-back of his time. A commanding personality, he was the best kicker of a ball I ever ran across."

(I have also seen figures of 528 Rovers appearances and 41 England caps).

I just love a bit if Rovers history!

175px-Bob_Crompton.jpg.c1d12a63d13c7cdcb47aedb2fb17e158.jpg

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31 minutes ago, JAL said:

Talks a good game who else talked a good game but couldn't deliver the results.

still waiting for these 3 names I asked you for or can you just not be bothered and much prefer to moan and whinge about every signing and their agent is, instead of focusing on the player talent and attributes

so am I going to get these 3 names or not?????

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4 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Time Gentlemen Please!

Nothing at all to do with transfers, like a lot of this thread, but take a break down nostalgia lane.

On this day in football history way back in 1911 Bob Crompton, Blackburn Rovers and England full-back and Captain, was awarded with a portrait of himself for creating a then new record of 24 international appearances for England. This beat Steve Bloomer's record of 23. Crompton's international career lasted from 1902 to 1920 and he eventually played in 34 International Championship matches and 8 against continental opposition.

It should be remembered that in his day very few matches were played against foreign opposition.

Bob Crompton, a Blackburn lad, spent his entire career at full-back for Rovers, playing 530 games between 1896 and 1920.

The legend Charles Buchan describing him as "...the outstanding full-back of his time. A commanding personality, he was the best kicker of a ball I ever ran across."

(I have also seen figures of 528 Rovers appearances and 41 England caps).

I just love a bit if Rovers history!

175px-Bob_Crompton.jpg.c1d12a63d13c7cdcb47aedb2fb17e158.jpg

Now that is the kind of player we need for a League 1 scrap. What a noble tashe. 

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Just now, renrag said:

Some of our dads who didn't survive the spot of bother with Hitler had to rely on relatives, friends and neighbours to nurture our interest in Rovers. One elderly gent on our street who had seen much of Bob Crompton's career would talk Rovers to me all day and night and used to wax lyrical about him, Jocky Simpson and many others. From gaining his first cap in 1902 he only missed 4 England games up to the 1st World War and those were through injury. Incidentally, the records I have show his appearances for Rovers as 529 League, 46 FA Cup and 1 Charity Shield.  

I am sure your figures are the correct ones. The figures I've seen for his Rovers appearances are just for league games.

He held the record for most England caps until it was passed by Billy Wright in the early 50's

And he's been recognised as one of the games greats:

http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/halloffame/bob-crompton-2

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4 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Time Gentlemen Please!

Nothing at all to do with transfers, like a lot of this thread, but take a break down nostalgia lane.

On this day in football history way back in 1911 Bob Crompton, Blackburn Rovers and England full-back and Captain, was awarded with a portrait of himself for creating a then new record of 24 international appearances for England. This beat Steve Bloomer's record of 23. Crompton's international career lasted from 1902 to 1920 and he eventually played in 34 International Championship matches and 8 against continental opposition.

It should be remembered that in his day very few matches were played against foreign opposition.

Bob Crompton, a Blackburn lad, spent his entire career at full-back for Rovers, playing 530 games between 1896 and 1920.

The legend Charles Buchan describing him as "...the outstanding full-back of his time. A commanding personality, he was the best kicker of a ball I ever ran across."

(I have also seen figures of 528 Rovers appearances and 41 England caps).

I just love a bit if Rovers history!

175px-Bob_Crompton.jpg.c1d12a63d13c7cdcb47aedb2fb17e158.jpg

Don't forget that he was once regarded as the finest player on the planet. To my knowledge, only Sir Tom Finney and John Charles ever got close to the same accolade as a Brit.

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