Championship 23/24

[wilsdenrover]

19 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Speaking of Ince, he's now odds on favourite to be next Sheffield Wednesday manager 😳

It never ceases to amaze me that a club can look at a manager’s record and think ‘yep, he’s the guy for us’

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Ossydave said:

Speaking of Ince, he's now odds on favourite to be next Sheffield Wednesday manager 😳

available, cheap and will work under strict budget there fits the bill

[roversfan99]

All outweighed by being shit.

[chaddyrovers]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

All outweighed by being shit.

I thought he did ok at Reading until points deduction happened but I do find it strange appointment for Sheff Weds to make, I think they are better appointments they could have approach to take over whether its Dean Smith, Sabri Lamouchi or Ryan Lowe

[roversfan99]

"Willing to work under strict budget" often is an indicator of a manager not otherwise particularly rated. Reminds me of when we appointed Owen Coyle.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Ince? Hahaha!!! He did well for a couple of months last season, then had the mother of all Mowbrayesque death spirals.  How he gets any football league job is beyond me.

[goozburger]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

All outweighed by being shit.

It's highly annoying that they beat us comfortably 3-0 at their place early on in the season. Paul "bus driver" Ince... 🤦‍♂️ It was the first sign under Tomasson that we were capable of imploding after going a goal down. If we stamp that nonsense out this season, we give ourselves a chance.

[Ossydave]

From what I've seen their fans would be absolutely distraught if he got it. On one hand I think they have delusions of grandeur at Hillsborough (the fans), but I think they can do better.

[Ossydave]

They're genuinely (I think) suggesting Potter on socials 🤣🤣🤣

[bazza]

Potter would be a hell of a lot better than Ince

[Ianrally]

The odd thing is what caused Darren Moore’s departure. 

[Ianrally]

2 minutes ago, bazza said:

Potter would be a hell of a lot better than Ince

Let’s hope they pick Ince then

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, Ianrally said:

Let’s hope they pick Ince then

Absolute no chance Potter will go there anyway 

[Ossydave]

23 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Absolute no chance Potter will go there anyway 

That was my point. Potter will be an asset for top level teams, not Sheffield bloody Wednesday

[KentExile]

38 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

They're genuinely (I think) suggesting Potter on socials 🤣🤣🤣

lol, Surely they don't think Potters stock has fallen to such an extent that he would even consider a Championship team?  Would have thought he would be one of the first names on the list for Mid/Lower Prem teams?

The mess at Chelsea seemed to be more a case of a ridiculous scattergun approach to transfers, and no firepower, neither of which were Potters fault in my opinion (Director of Football Model/the owner playing real life Football Manager 2023)

Edited June 24, 2023 by KentExile

[Upside Down]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

available, cheap and will work under strict budget there fits the bill

I didn't realise venkys had bought Sheffield Wednesday as well.

[roversfan99]

Leicester seemingly in talks with Harry Winks and have also been linked in the last couple of days with Zack Steffen, Conor Coady, Tom Cairney and Joel Piroe so they could be strong if they get some of them.

[chaddyrovers]

Huge rebuilding job at Leicester, Southampton and Leeds with all 3 squad facing massively overhauling and revamping. 

Leeds haven't even announce the new head coach yet

[roverandout]

Both Sheffield clubs annoy me. Wednesday have won alot more than united but neither are big clubs 

[Cherry Blue]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Huge rebuilding job at Leicester, Southampton and Leeds with all 3 squad facing massively overhauling and revamping. 

Leeds haven't even announce the new head coach yet

Spurs have just paid Leicester £40m for Maddison with Winks moving the other way for £10m. 

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

Both Sheffield clubs annoy me. Wednesday have won alot more than united but neither are big clubs 

Depends on what you think defines a big club. Their trophy hauls aren’t huge, but their fan bases are tbf.

(Obviously Sheffield a far bigger place than Blackburn, same goes for their catchment area, before anyone says).

[Mattyblue]

Why would you be annoyed by Sheffield Wednesday?

[Upside Down]

I wouldn't say either of them annoy me in any way, but I agree with roverandout that they aren't "big" clubs.

They're on par with us at the very best.

[KentExile]

Talk of "big" clubs does get silly, everyone has their own definition, normally based upon whatever metric makes someone's own club bigger.  Trophies won (usually with an arbitrary cut off date point, but not if you are a Rover because most of ours were won in the early days of football), Crowd size (so that fans of clubs in big cities, with huge catchment areas or even Plymouth Argyle can claim they are huge because their crowds of 15000 or 16000 in league 1, conveniently ignoring that they are the only club for about a gazillion miles in any direction and don't have a host of Premier League clubs on their doorstep, or Current standing (for me, history has to count for something, Brentford, Brighton etc are good, well run clubs, but they are certainly not big clubs)

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by KentExile

[wilsdenrover]

14 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Talk of "big" clubs does get silly, everyone has their own definition, normally based upon whatever metric makes someone's own club bigger.  Trophies won (usually with an arbitrary cut off date point, but not if you are a Rover because most of ours were won in the early days of football), Crowd size (so that fans of clubs in big cities, with huge catchment areas or even Plymouth Argyle can claim they are huge because their crowds of 15000 or 16000 in league 1, conveniently ignoring that they are the only club for about a gazillion miles in any direction and don't have a host of Premier League clubs on their doorstep, or Current standing (for me, history has to count for something, Brentford, Brighton etc are good, well run clubs, but they are certainly not big clubs)

 

As with many things in life, success is more important than size.

I guess you still get the debate as to what defines success,  is it purely trophies won or does, for example, qualifying for Europe count?

You also get the discussion around whether success from ‘before your time’ counts or not eg. ‘ Sure your club’s won x FA cups but they were all before (insert world event here)’

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by wilsdenrover