Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Tomphil2]

26 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't disagree with your overall point but if missing out on the play offs when the Club were in the top 6 when you took over is judged a success - Im in the wrong job!

Failure and under achieving gets rewarded all too often in this daft industry.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We can 20 strikers but if we don't create anything or put good balls into the box its pointless. I would also like to see one of the centre midfielder get forward into the box and get more bodies into the box.   

5 centre midfielders isn't a squad overloads. We had 4 midfielders and were short after Tronstad and Travis got injured and Baker went back to Stoke. 

Axel is attacking midfielders 

Do you see the likes of Hedges, De Neve and Kargbo as capable of providing chances for the strikers?

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

Not enough forwards (wide or central) of the required quality, who can be relied upon to say fit and provide goals and/or assists

 

 

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We can 20 strikers but if we don't create anything or put good balls into the box its pointless. I would also like to see one of the centre midfielder get forward into the box and get more bodies into the box.   

So you agree with me then

ok, cool 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

 

So you agree with me then

ok, cool 

Yes we need better crosses and passes into the box but I think we need just 1 holding midfielder and one getting forward to the box trying to score or playing that final passes. Yesterday our 2 holding midfielders didn't get forward much and try to be goal threat

[Hasta]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes we need better crosses and passes into the box but I think we need just 1 holding midfielder and one getting forward to the box trying to score or playing that final passes. Yesterday our 2 holding midfielders didn't get forward much and try to be goal threat

Translation: "I agree with selling Travis now VI has hinted at it".

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Hasta

[simongarnerisgod]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't disagree with your overall point but if missing out on the play offs when the Club were in the top 6 when you took over is judged a success - Im in the wrong job!

venkys don`t want promotion,hence val and his team are doing a great job,sign a lot of players from the various 2nd divisions of europe then sell your best players,,it`ll kerp you away from those nasty promotion places,they`ll mosr likely give him a new contract next season for all his good work🤧

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

venkys don`t want promotion,hence val and his team are doing a great job,sign a lot of players from the various 2nd divisions of europe then sell your best players,,it`ll kerp you away from those nasty promotion places,they`ll mosr likely give him a new contract next season for all his good work🤧

Agree with that bit, still dont think they WANT relegation, which imo they're taking a hell of a risk on.

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Agree with that bit, still dont think they WANT relegation, which imo they're taking a hell of a risk on.

Agree they don't want relegation.  They just don't care if the current plan ends in relegation.  If it does then they will just make further cuts.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Agree with that bit, still dont think they WANT relegation, which imo they're taking a hell of a risk on.

They’re ambivalent about it. If the balance sheet dictates it they’ll be good with that.

[roverblue]

Agree he still has to prove himself, he had a horrific start then a good set of results. It will be interesting to see how these first 5-10 games go.

I imagine he will be gone by Xmas either by rage quitting over lack of investment or due to results being so poor they have to sack him (which is probably due to the former).

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I’ll be absolutely amazed if he sees the season out.

[sharpysharps86]

2 hours ago, roverblue said:

Agree he still has to prove himself, he had a horrific start then a good set of results. It will be interesting to see how these first 5-10 games go.

I imagine he will be gone by Xmas either by rage quitting over lack of investment or due to results being so poor they have to sack him (which is probably due to the former).

Yes, it definitely feels like this could go very much the same way as JDT....team struggling at the wrong end of the table, Ismael starts getting more and more honest in the press over the lack of contract renewals and poor standard of summer signings...exit negotiated by the club and we're back to square one.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Ismael starts getting more and more honest in the press over the lack of contract renewals and poor standard of summer signings...exit negotiated by the club and we're back to square one.

That's never happening imo, I think he's full square 100% behind "the project" and grateful to be earning £600k p.a.

From the nonchalant and matter of fact way he's been announcing the recent departures I think he knew from the outset that they would be leaving and that no serious attempt would be made to keep them. If it were otherwise he'd be fuming.

"Yes well, we thought Callum was going to sign but he received an offer he wishes to take"

*(So hey ho)*

"Just to let you know folks there'll be another key departure this week"

*(Nothing to see here)*

NB - Words in asterisks mine.

[lraC]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That's never happening imo, I think he's full square 100% behind "the project" and grateful to be earning £600k p.a.

From the nonchalant and matter of fact way he's been announcing the recent departures I think he knew from the outset that they would be leaving and that no serious attempt would be made to keep them. If it were otherwise he'd be fuming.

"Yes well, we thought Callum was going to sign but he received an offer he wishes to take"

*(So hey ho)*

"Just to let you know folks there'll be another key departure this week"

*(Nothing to see here)*

NB - Words in asterisks mine.

I agree and after all said and done, he only needs to reply ask Pasha and his number will be up, if he does decide to leave with a nice fat pay cheque an NDA his arm.

He might want to go back to France, as he is missing the the Frogs legs and Escargot. 

[JHRover]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That's never happening imo, I think he's full square 100% behind "the project" and grateful to be earning £600k p.a.

From the nonchalant and matter of fact way he's been announcing the recent departures I think he knew from the outset that they would be leaving and that no serious attempt would be made to keep them. If it were otherwise he'd be fuming.

"Yes well, we thought Callum was going to sign but he received an offer he wishes to take"

*(So hey ho)*

"Just to let you know folks there'll be another key departure this week"

*(Nothing to see here)*

NB - Words in asterisks mine.

Yeah, it is staggering the lack of fight, determination or anything from those interviews. 

In the past we've expected decent players to leave -if- a very good offer has come in but we've had managers talking about the importance of those players, being keen to keep them, building around them etc. Not now, the white flag is flying over Brockhall. Come and get them.

Here it is just shrug shoulders, we've made an offer, they aren't taking it so they either get sold now or leave for free. Worryingly he almost seems keen on the sale option under the impression that it will allow for reinvestment. 

Must have been the shortest ever contract negotiations with these players. As of March / April all 3 of Travis, Tronstad and Brittain were very clear that there had been zero discussions about it, with the club saying that it would only happen at the end of the season once budgets and league status were known, and now by the start of August negotiations have failed. So at best perhaps 12 weeks of a period during which the players were away on holiday.

Impressive speed there. Or perhaps the negotiations have been all of a phone call to tell them we aren't offering them improved terms and probably not even what they are on at present, therefore not even worthy of being called an offer. 

Edited 1 hour ago by JHRover

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Yeah, it is staggering the lack of fight, determination or anything from those interviews. 

In the past we've expected decent players to leave -if- a very good offer has come in but we've had managers talking about the importance of those players, being keen to keep them, building around them etc. Not now, the white flag is flying over Brockhall. Come and get them.

Here it is just shrug shoulders, we've made an offer, they aren't taking it so they either get sold now or leave for free. Worryingly he almost seems keen on the sale option under the impression that it will allow for reinvestment. 

Must have been the shortest ever contract negotiations with these players. As of March / April all 3 of Travis, Tronstad and Brittain were very clear that there had been zero discussions about it, with the club saying that it would only happen at the end of the season once budgets and league status were known, and now by the start of August negotiations have failed. So at best perhaps 12 weeks of a period during which the players were away on holiday.

Impressive speed there. Or perhaps the negotiations have been all of a phone call to tell them we aren't offering them improved terms and probably not even what they are on at present, therefore not even worthy of being called an offer. 

To be fair he is saying that they won't go unless we get a decent price for them etc.

I think that's the only  thing you can say the owners get right. Generally (Adam Wharton apart) we dont let players go on the cheap.

RF 99 would probably say it's another failing.