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1 hour ago, Uddersfelt Blue said:

So reading between the lines of the Gestede interview. A few questions:

Why do the senior players who have left prefer to be at another club rather than at Blackburn Rovers? 
 

The players who we have been brought in are cheaper options but are they better than the ones they are replacing? 


The Championship is now stronger and more competitive so why are the club reducing wages, which we all know usually relates to success on the pitch? 
 

Why no mention of appointing a new CEO for a multi million pound organisation? 
 

Why do the fans want you out Rudy? Have you asked them?

 

Until the club engages with the fans to explain fully the reasons behind the constant change behind the scenes and issues that may be present I’m afraid there will be some distrust of what is being communicated

I would replace "some distrust", with "complete distrust".

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

But why would they play there at the same time? I don’t get that argument 

obviously if there’s a massive influx of injuries which could happen anytime to any team then of course 

I think have 23 players for 11 positions is fine what I’m concerned about is the quality of the player 

My point is that versatility is good but not instead of signing players for each position. You cant sign one player to cover 2 positions INSTEAD of signing 2 players.

It wouldnt take a "massive influx" of injuries for us to be badly short. We have had bigger squads in recent years and have still not had enough to avoid a massive second half of the season dip.

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Posted
1 hour ago, lraC said:

I can answer all of them, not in terms of what I really believe, but in terms of spin and lies, that some of the more gullible amongst the fan base will swallow.

Why do the senior players who have left prefer to be at another club rather than at Blackburn Rovers? They either decided not to renew their contracts and we did not want to risk losing them for nothing, as in the past, or in some cases they wanted to be closer to home.

The players who we have been brought in are cheaper options but are they better than the ones they are replacing? Only time will tell. we had a budget to work to and believe we have worked to that and strengthened the team, at the same time.

The Championship is now stronger and more competitive so why are the club reducing wages, which we all know usually relates to success on the pitch? We also believe we are stronger and more versatile than last year and expect once the new players have bedded, in  they will show their quality.

Why no mention of appointing a new CEO for a multi million pound organisation? We will appoint one in good time, but in the meantime, we have an adequate and capable COO instead. 

Why do the fans want you out Rudy? Have you asked them? It is only a small number and the rest are giving the regime and the players their full backing.

 

🙂 🙂 🙂 

 

 

Spin is easy isn't it? When you have enough people, enough of them are going to be gullible enough to swallow your shit, especially if that's what they want to believe. Which they do, because there is no getting away from Venkys so they'd rather convince themselves everything is fine.

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Posted
1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

It is rumoured Tronstad will join the Ewood exodus next Summer. It's a massive rebuilding job at Ewood, with all the outgoings.

and no money......

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Posted
35 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Spin is easy isn't it? When you have enough people, enough of them are going to be gullible enough to swallow your shit, especially if that's what they want to believe. Which they do, because there is no getting away from Venkys so they'd rather convince themselves everything is fine.

Absolutely.

Posted
2 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

It is rumoured Tronstad will join the Ewood exodus next Summer. It's a massive rebuilding job at Ewood, with all the outgoings.

It's no rumour it's fact the only thing for debate is if they'll cash in during the Jan window.

They won't offer him anything remotely good enough to tempt him to stay but for benefit of the lemmings they'll spout the usual... 'offered contract, didn't want to stay'.... 'Did all we could'.. This Outer Mongolian Defensive mid from the Belgium second tier really wants to be here and we want players who are onboard with the project so say bye bye Sonny ! 

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Posted

Seing the Gestede interview he doesn’t come across very well imo. He seems quite defensive at times. I don’t know if its because English is not his first language or if it is because he has some arrogance about him. To me it’s pretty obvious that Venkys have set a wage limit in place. I think the reason for Travis, Hyam etc. leaving is as simple as money. Simple as that. They can get more money elsewhere. And ofcourse they can see that the club is cutting wages. Most times in football the winners are the ones who pay to get the best players. Rudy calls it risk assessment. BBC calls it a gamble but it would be fair to say that there is a lot of insecurity about how strong our squad really is. Can you really fault the likes of Hyam for wanting to go a highly ambitious (and annoying) club like Wrexham. A club filled with ambition and excitement as opposed to Rovers. A club in a constant decline. Oh and his wages will be higher as well. I repeat what I said the other day: Venkys are the main culprits.

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Posted
1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

My point is that versatility is good but not instead of signing players for each position. You cant sign one player to cover 2 positions INSTEAD of signing 2 players.

It wouldnt take a "massive influx" of injuries for us to be badly short. We have had bigger squads in recent years and have still not had enough to avoid a massive second half of the season dip.

Disagree….its not the approach I would have taken or wanted but of course you can sign a player who can cover 2 positions 

versatile players are common and do cover other positions instead of direct replacements. It’s not something new and certainly not just rovers who do it 

again though the problem I’m having is more the ability of players rather than the amount of them. As Iv said before 23 registered plus academy players is enough or should be enough 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Disagree….its not the approach I would have taken or wanted but of course you can sign a player who can cover 2 positions 

versatile players are common and do cover other positions instead of direct replacements. It’s not something new and certainly not just rovers who do it 

again though the problem I’m having is more the ability of players rather than the amount of them. As Iv said before 23 registered plus academy players is enough or should be enough 

If the midfielder who is also the right back cover has to play right back due to the right back being injured, and then the midfield cover needs to play centre back due to suspension of a central defender, who will then cover in midfield? Aynsley Pears? 🙂 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Disagree….its not the approach I would have taken or wanted but of course you can sign a player who can cover 2 positions 

versatile players are common and do cover other positions instead of direct replacements. It’s not something new and certainly not just rovers who do it 

again though the problem I’m having is more the ability of players rather than the amount of them. As Iv said before 23 registered plus academy players is enough or should be enough 

Its being done because of cost cutting. We have historically had squads that have been unable to sustain performance over a season due to a lack of depth. Versatility is a useful tool but you cant compromise on numbers.

Say if Carter and Alebiosu get injured. You then need a natural right back at centre back, a midfielder at right back and then you are potentially short in midfield.

23 registered players, including one injured for an unknown period. Adam Forshaw who shouldnt be starting games and is injured. Other players with bad injury history. Makhtar Gueye. Its a long old season, now that versatility is a tool we can use, when you get months into the season and youve got more injuries, its very thin and you have 2 spare spaces.

Posted
20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its being done because of cost cutting. We have historically had squads that have been unable to sustain performance over a season due to a lack of depth. Versatility is a useful tool but you cant compromise on numbers.

Say if Carter and Alebiosu get injured. You then need a natural right back at centre back, a midfielder at right back and then you are potentially short in midfield.

23 registered players, including one injured for an unknown period. Adam Forshaw who shouldnt be starting games and is injured. Other players with bad injury history. Makhtar Gueye. Its a long old season, now that versatility is a tool we can use, when you get months into the season and youve got more injuries, its very thin and you have 2 spare spaces.

Carter gets injured - miller can play cb (whether you agree or disagree he has played there for hibs)

Alebiosu injured - TGH / Montgomery 

midfield will be covered by tronstad Tavares Montgomery Baradji forshaw (when returning from injury)

Lack of depth isn’t classed by numbers it’s classed by quality something Iv stated we don’t have which is my concern 

but taking quality off the table there is enough numbers there 

as Iv stated it’s not the way I would have went about it I’d have liked a direct hyam replacement but over 25 players in the squad is enough to cover the team until Jan 

again it’s the quality in question 

Posted
49 minutes ago, Kjell said:

If the midfielder who is also the right back cover has to play right back due to the right back being injured, and then the midfield cover needs to play centre back due to suspension of a central defender, who will then cover in midfield? Aynsley Pears? 🙂 

Tronstad tavares Montgomery 

Posted
1 hour ago, DanielMB said:

To me it’s pretty obvious that Venkys have set a wage limit in place.

Have they? Or is it Pasha? And so long as the Vs aren't unduly pestered they are happy.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Carter gets injured - miller can play cb (whether you agree or disagree he has played there for hibs)

Alebiosu injured - TGH / Montgomery 

midfield will be covered by tronstad Tavares Montgomery Baradji forshaw (when returning from injury)

Lack of depth isn’t classed by numbers it’s classed by quality something Iv stated we don’t have which is my concern 

but taking quality off the table there is enough numbers there 

as Iv stated it’s not the way I would have went about it I’d have liked a direct hyam replacement but over 25 players in the squad is enough to cover the team until Jan 

again it’s the quality in question 

But its about quality AND numbers.

You say Miller can cover centre back. But hes also covering right back. He cant cover them both if we have injuries in both.

Posted
11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But its about quality AND numbers.

You say Miller can cover centre back. But hes also covering right back. He cant cover them both if we have injuries in both.

Montgomery plays rb for Scotland u21s / TGH can play right back - so miller won’t likely be required there if Carter is injured so he can cover the cb if required 

rb - alebiosu miller Montgomery TGH

Cb - Carter Wharton McLaughlin miller 

cm - tronstad Tavares Montgomery Baradji forshaw 

the numbers are there not to mention academy players under a certain age who don’t need registered in the 25 

for me it’s all about the lack of quality as opposed to numbers 

Posted
11 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

800 up and its bails off for the night and Trondstad off in January to Scandinavia. 

Then a contract extension for Forshaw. It's easy this head of football malarky.

Posted
2 hours ago, yeti-dog said:

I'm not sure @RevidgeBlue will...

We'll see how good he is this season in Travis's absence.

Im not expecting a great deal,  probably a repeat of the last time Travis was absent 2 seasons ago.

At best.

Posted
3 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Montgomery plays rb for Scotland u21s / TGH can play right back - so miller won’t likely be required there if Carter is injured so he can cover the cb if required 

rb - alebiosu miller Montgomery TGH

Cb - Carter Wharton McLaughlin miller 

cm - tronstad Tavares Montgomery Baradji forshaw 

the numbers are there not to mention academy players under a certain age who don’t need registered in the 25 

for me it’s all about the lack of quality as opposed to numbers 

The lad from Birmingham will cover RB and CM. 

Miller will cover RB and CB. He looks like Carter at RB to me - a big, strong, lanky athlete (i.e. a CB playing RB). 

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Posted
9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ismael is very comfy on his long deal and very much trotting out the company line in his interview. Not convinced that hes truthfully so happy about business.

He keeps talking about versatility. Yes its very useful but it doesnt compensate for a lack of numbers.

For example, we are short in midfield with Travis gone, Tavares (who Ismael seems to think has done well in every game which is far from true) and us signing someone who is nowhere near fitness. So Taylor Gardner Hickman should be needed there. But he cant play there and right back at the same time and our right back cover is now considered a full time centre back. And if we are so well covered, Hyam wouldnt have been one of the first names on the team sheet.

Theres a continued batting off about the contract situation. No reassurance that anything is going to change and those with 2 years on their deals will be proactively approached.

 

VI is being either delusional or dishonest in saying that this summer's dire contracts situation will not be repeated next summer. As long as this apparent £10k pw wage cap is in place, players with currently less than 2 years remaining will not extend. So next summer it's goodbye to Cantwell, Carter, Toth, Kargbo as well as Tyjon, Tronstad and Hedges. No worries then. 

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Posted (edited)

Can see another clear out next summer, Ohashi, Toth, Cantwell, Gueye, McLoughlin, Kargbo, Pickering, Carter and Scott Wharton will have a year left come the end of the season. Also add Ryan hedges to the list, worrying if we can’t extend Wharton and Hedges contracts with all due respect 

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