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TBF I think its fairly common. I believe at some point Johnson had the remit of Loans Manager under his technical stuff

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20 minutes ago, Cuppliance said:

Is this a role that is commonly found at football clubs? I've never come across this before.

I think it started when premier league teams like Chelsea and City would have full teams of people out on loan, for us it seems more of a made up jobs for the boys / appease the fans role 

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23 minutes ago, Cuppliance said:

Is this a role that is commonly found at football clubs? I've never come across this before.

Was it Udinese who famously had something close to 100 players out on loan one year 

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23 minutes ago, Cuppliance said:

Is this a role that is commonly found at football clubs? I've never come across this before.

Most clubs have this role.  Last season Stuart Jones did it.  Rhodes is the ideal choice for the role.  As a young lad at Ipswich, he had a number of loans to other clubs as he was developing as a professional footballer.  He knows the problems youngsters would have going to other clubs on loan because he's been there and done it himself.  He's also had loans at the end of his career so knows the problems it can cause late in your career.  Thus he has the experience for the role and he has a knowledge of Blackburn Rovers.  For me this is an excellent appointment in so many ways.

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56 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

Most clubs have this role.  Last season Stuart Jones did it.  Rhodes is the ideal choice for the role.  As a young lad at Ipswich, he had a number of loans to other clubs as he was developing as a professional footballer.  He knows the problems youngsters would have going to other clubs on loan because he's been there and done it himself.  He's also had loans at the end of his career so knows the problems it can cause late in your career.  Thus he has the experience for the role and he has a knowledge of Blackburn Rovers.  For me this is an excellent appointment in so many ways.

So many ways is three in total.

It is a poor appointment in terms of:

Experience coaching.

Experience scouting.

Experience in football administration.

Experience as a leader.

Experience in literally any role outside of playing football.

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8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

So many ways is three in total.

It is a poor appointment in terms of:

Experience coaching.

Experience scouting.

Experience in football administration.

Experience as a leader.

Experience in literally any role outside of playing football.

Whilst it probably is a lower cost job for his mate, is not unusual to appoint a former player with not much experience of anything else.  Lescott started the same job at Man City the season after retiring as a player

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5968647/Joleon-Lescott-set-season-jet-setting-Europe-mentoring-Manchester-Citys-young-stars.html

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11 minutes ago, Mike E said:

So many ways is three in total.

It is a poor appointment in terms of:

Experience coaching.

Experience scouting.

Experience in football administration.

Experience as a leader.

Experience in literally any role outside of playing football.

But as pointed out - many of these roles, even in the prem, are taken up by “graduate” coaches / scouts. Carlton Cole and Johnny Evans for example.

 

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1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

Like Rudy was, Parson?

Rudy has put his money where his mouth is at least, if we (expectedly) drop like a stone, this is his manager and it’s his team. He will be responsible, same in the unlikely event it goes the other way.

I must admit, for a website that’s common theme is rightfully “we can’t go anywhere with Venkys”, we do love to shoot the messengers, and please don’t bring up this he said she said stuff, I’ve had it up to the brim.

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40 minutes ago, JBiz said:

But as pointed out - many of these roles, even in the prem, are taken up by “graduate” coaches / scouts. Carlton Cole and Johnny Evans for example.

 

He might be great at the role, and I’m concerned over absolutely nothing.

BUT

Carlton Cole had 4 years as a coach under his belt before being appointed to loan manager.

Edit - my mistake, 6 years as a coach.

Jonny Evans has been given the role just this summer with no coaching experience, like Rhodes has, and at a club almost as dysfunctional as ours. The one thing Evans does at least have is leadership experience, a captain for Leicester City, West Brom, and Northern Ireland.

From a non-emotional perspective, Rhodes has as much qualification for the role as I do. I would argue I have at least been in multiple roles where I am responsible for others and their development.

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16 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I’m asking if he still thinks he’s an ‘excellent appointment’ like he said last year, if that’s ok with you?

Yes I still do. You'll be the first to know when I change my mind.  In that case I'll hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong.

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IMO, a total unnecessary appointment and one merely made to try and deflect current levels of justifiable criticism aimed at Gestede.  A former popular player with a friendly face will only cut it with the gullible and happy clappers!

We have just 3 players (Barrett, Duru and O'Riordan) out on loan one of whom is in USA!

Just why the feck do we need a loans manager!?

Think it's an absolute nonsense and a waste of money when we seem to be cutting costs in every other direction.

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I'm calling this now - Jordan Rhodes will be the next Rovers manager. Exactly like Gestede effectively becoming CEO, he's a cheap option and no doubt will just say yes to whatever Pasha wants.

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