v Ipswich Town (h) - 20/9/25

[Upside Down]

2 hours ago, rigger said:

A non return valve allows flow in only one direction. It is at work all the time, It never shuts off flow from the ground to the river, but does not allow a flow from the river to the ground. The venturi effect of the positioning of the outlet allows for the flow into the river, when the river level is above the outlet. 

That's not how the Venturi effect works.

Flow in = Flow out

Putting the pipe on an angle does nothing to change the hydraulic head pressure.

I explained all of this the last time we had a game called off for a waterlogged pitch.

[NeilInBristol]

5 hours ago, rigger said:

Expensive, and needs quite a bit of maintenance. The club is not very good at maintenance.

I heard on national news some sink holes appeared in Darwen due to the heavy rain 

 

crazy times up north

[Tugay-is-God]

9 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

I heard on national news some sink holes appeared in Darwen due to the heavy rain 

 

crazy times up north

Oh boy

[47er]

41 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

That's not how the Venturi effect works.

Isn't it the Venky effect that's to blame?

[RevidgeBlue]

32 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

I heard on national news some sink holes appeared in Darwen due to the heavy rain 

 

crazy times up north

Im assuming fake news.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

41 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Im assuming fake news.

No, true apparently.

[Upside Down]

40 minutes ago, 47er said:

Isn't it the Venky effect that's to blame?

Climate change really but given their involvement in factory farming they will be making a decent contribution towards it. 

As I mentioned last time, this issue could be sorted out by installing a stormwater detention system for times like this but that would cost money. Since they can't even do the most basic maintenance there's no way while there's a hole in anybody's arse that this issue will be dealt with.

The venky effect it is.

[bluebruce]

Well lads, I think we can give up on the prospect of getting to finish this game, or being awarded the points. I asked AI to give me some precedents from the last 10 years, and I'd say we've no fucking chance. Apologies if these have been mentioned already (or if any are wrong due to AI innacuracy):

1. Blackpool vs Huddersfield Town (May 2015)

• Abandonment Time: 48th minute

• Reason: Fan protest—Blackpool supporters invaded the pitch.

• Score at Abandonment: 0–0

• Decision: The Football League declared the match a 0–0 draw, as it had no bearing on promotion or relegation.

 

2. Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers (April 2023)

• Abandonment Time: 85th minute

• Reason: Medical emergency in the crowd.

• Score at Abandonment: 1–1

• Decision: The match was replayed in full, despite being nearly complete. The EFL cited fairness and competition integrity.

 

3. Leyton Orient vs Hartlepool United (March 2021)

• Abandonment Time: 87th minute

• Reason: Floodlight failure.

• Score at Abandonment: 2–0 to Leyton Orient

• Decision: The match was replayed in full, even though Orient were winning and the game was nearly over.

 

4. Coventry City vs Rotherham United (February 2017)

• Abandonment Time: 85th minute

• Reason: Waterlogged pitch.

• Score at Abandonment: 1–0 to Coventry

• Decision: The match was replayed in full, despite the late stage and clear lead.

 

So one game where the result stood, but only because it would definitely have zero impact on relegation or promotion. The other three all replayed in full, including a ridiculous situation where the game was abandoned in the 87th minute with Orient 2 nil up! That one seems to solidify we have no chance (with the slight caveat that the game was abandoned due to floodlight failure which, unless there was a blackout, would probably have distinctly been Orient's fault...but equally the EFL could ask us to prove we've done everything we can to improve our systems to prevent this flooding).

The 4th game there is the most similar to ours, except that Rotherham didn't have 10 men, but Coventry were 5 minutes closer to victory. We're screwed.

The second game was a playoff match btw, and with the score being level seems fair enough to me it was replayed.

For what it's worth, Coventry and Leyton Orient both won their replays 5-0. So they actually ended up with more dominant wins. Knowing our luck, and with Ipswich being preseason favourites to win the league, I doubt it will go that way for us. And it's still another game we shouldn't have to play with our thin squad.

[bluebruce]

With a bit more probing, I managed to find 2 games where a team was allowed to keep a victory, but both were non-league. One of them the winners had a 3 goal lead and it was the 85th minute, the other one was only a 2-1, but it was the 88th minute.

[bluebruce]

I asked the AI (Copilot) a few more questions and established that apparently, no game in any professional football league anywhere in the world has ever resumed a game from the score and minute it was abandoned, as far as the AI can find. Some amateur levels have experimented with it (seems mad that semi-pro and amateur levels can be more sensible about this shit IMO) and American Football and Basketball have been known to 'pause and resume due to weather or technical issues', not sure if that's the same thing or not.

But I can say with about 99.99% certainty, this match is getting replayed in full starting at 0-0 and with 11 men v 11.

[XLM]

32 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I asked the AI (Copilot) a few more questions and established that apparently, no game in any professional football league anywhere in the world has ever resumed a game from the score and minute it was abandoned, as far as the AI can find. Some amateur levels have experimented with it (seems mad that semi-pro and amateur levels can be more sensible about this shit IMO) and American Football and Basketball have been known to 'pause and resume due to weather or technical issues', not sure if that's the same thing or not.

But I can say with about 99.99% certainty, this match is getting replayed in full starting at 0-0 and with 11 men v 11.

In the US, well the NFL at least, they tend to finish the game as soon as the conditions improve. With a sparse or nonexistent crowd. It happens a fair bit with thunder storms. No idea if the pitch would have got any better as the rain eased, but that would have been the sensible choice if it had.

Barring the obvious of just getting on with the last 10 mins anyway. Playing the last 10th of the game in suboptimal conditions is obviously a fairer conclusion than starting from scratch. But either way, I'll be shocked if that isn't the outcome.

Probably just have to go out and beat them again.