v Ipswich Town (h) - 20/9/25

[rigger]

Give us three points for the win, then dock us three points for not rectifying a previously known problem.

[MarkBRFC]

13 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Simon Jordan is a bellend 

 

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What's that Rovers vs Wimbledon game he's on about that was abandoned in 1997 with us 2-0 up? 

I don't believe that ever happened?

[RevidgeBlue]

21 minutes ago, rigger said:

Give us three points for the win, then dock us three points for not rectifying a previously known problem.

Two separate aspects to this.

In a sporting context Id like there to be a partial replay because thats the fairest outcome.

If we get that, Id then like the EFL to come down hard on the Club in the hope it'll provoke us into doing something about it.

As things stand If there are any matchdays with prolonged rain this winter it's going to be complete pot luck whether we can start/get through the game. It's completely unfair to fans of either side who have to travel any distance to be put in that situation.

Are we going to have to start postponing games 24/48 hours before to be on the safe side if there's a bad forecast? It's not on. As I mentioned previously to me it's  not that far removed from part of the ground being unsafe/unfit for use.

Edited 7 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

What's that Rovers vs Wimbledon game he's on about that was abandoned in 1997 with us 2-0 up? 

I don't believe that ever happened?

I usually agree with most of what Simon Jordan says but he's been way off beam recently on Rovers with his views on the 3 stooges being requested to stay away and now this.

If he thinks any game that doesn't make it to the final whistle is "not a completed fixture" and should be replayed in full, Im sure he'd be delighted if Palace had a game abandoned when they were 5 up with 10 mins to go and it had to be replayed in full.

[islander200]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

What McKenna and Ismael want is irrelevant because neither is interested in anything other than a solution that best suits their club.

I dont really get either why they have both been allowed to put their case forward.

No decision will be fair. The pitch was unplayable so the game couldnt carry on. No subsequent solution would match the balance of playing a full game at the first time of asking.

Hence why they will likely just insist on a full replay unfortunately, following precedent cases.

It isn't a precedent case tho is it?

Has there been another match abandoned so late in the game with a team having a man advantage due to a sending off ? 

11 v 11 a replay of the whole match would have already been announced. 

I think they will order a full replay of the game but in my honest opinion the fair option would be playing out the remaining minutes 11 v 10

 

 

[47er]

33 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I usually agree with most of what Simon Jordan says but he's been way off beam recently on Rovers with his views on the 3 stooges being requested to stay away and now this.

If he thinks any game that doesn't make it to the final whistle is "not a completed fixture" and should be replayed in full, Im sure he'd be delighted if Palace had a game abandoned when they were 5 up with 10 mins to go and it had to be replayed in full.

The score could be significant. Anything can happen in a flash at 1-0. I feel we'll beard done by.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by 47er

[RoyWegerlesLeftToe]

57 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

What's that Rovers vs Wimbledon game he's on about that was abandoned in 1997 with us 2-0 up? 

I don't believe that ever happened?

It was called off just before kick off wasn't. I remember big fash doing a pre-klinsmen klinsmen. 

[wilsdenrover]

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I think the problem is that none of them are fair.

I think the best opportunity for a compromise (and this wouldnt always work eg if we had midweek fixtures) has gone. That would have been to keep the Ipswich squad in Lancashire, noting the forecast that the rain was to stop just after midnight. And finish the game on the Sunday with the same teams continuing, including number of subs available etc.

I would argue there is nothing unfair in continuing the match from where it left off.

Ipswich will be in exactly the position they were, a goal down a man down having travelled from Suffolk that morning (I’m assuming that’s what they did and what they would do). 

We’d also be in the same position, one up a man up and ten(ish) minutes to see out.

Of course there would be differences, for example they’d have time to plot how best to get something out of the game but equally we’d have time to plan against this.

I can’t think (but maybe others can) of any advantage to one team that wouldn’t be offset by an advantage to the other.

 

 

 

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair, it's not yet five days since the original decision. I dont get all this "Im bored with it already" type talk. Id rather wait a month if it meant we got to the fairest outcome.

I can't see the problem with asking the respective Clubs for their views either. Does that mean that if they were both in agreement about a certain outcome the EFL should ignore that completely and go off and impose their own different solution?

 

Re the bit in bold, yes - in my opinion, what the two clubs want should be irrelevant (so far as the EFL is concerned). 

 

 

 

[oneandycrawford]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I think it shows exactly the opposite - just judge each case on its individual merits and act accordingly. Don't make the same decision in every single  case where the punishment doesn't necessarily fit the crime.

If you did set up a range of rules, there'd have to be a hell of a lot of them, covering different scorelines at every conceivable point/ numbers of players on each side/reasons for the abandonment etc etc

I understand where you're coming from but my worry is that clubs would start gaming the system and we end up in interminable legal processes when clubs don't agree on the outcome - which could be most of the time!

What happens if it's the last game of the season - how long would the process take when it could involve relegation / promotion issues affecting a whole host of clubs?

 

No system will be perfect because, as you rightly point out, there are so many different scenarios. Maybe some system which at least lays out the options (e.g. full replay, complete the match from the point it stopped, result stands, points awarded to one team or the other) - and some guidance as to what the likely outcome is in different circumstances - might help to speed up the process and mean fans are better informed.

[Crimpshrine]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

What's that Rovers vs Wimbledon game he's on about that was abandoned in 1997 with us 2-0 up? 

I don't believe that ever happened?

We did have a postponement against Wimbledon it would have been before 97 though. Can't remember what the score was or if it even started but I remember Fashanu, Wise, Jones et al doing belly slides all over the pitch and pretending to swim after it was called off

[MarkBRFC]

27 minutes ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

It was called off just before kick off wasn't. I remember big fash doing a pre-klinsmen klinsmen. 

 

5 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

We did have a postponement against Wimbledon it would have been before 97 though. Can't remember what the score was or if it even started but I remember Fashanu, Wise, Jones et al doing belly slides all over the pitch and pretending to swim after it was called off

Yeah I remember that one, it was around December 93/January 94. 

It was postponed just before kick off.

The game Simon Jordon is on about was apparently in 1997 with us already 2-0 up, no idea where he has plucked that one from.

[wilsdenrover]

3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

 

Yeah I remember that one, it was around December 93/January 94. 

It was postponed just before kick off.

The game Simon Jordon is on about was apparently in 1997 with us already 2-0 up, no idea where he has plucked that one from.

I imagine he’s made it up.

 

[Penwortham Blue]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I usually agree with most of what Simon Jordan says but he's been way off beam recently on Rovers with his views on the 3 stooges being requested to stay away and now this.

If he thinks any game that doesn't make it to the final whistle is "not a completed fixture" and should be replayed in full, Im sure he'd be delighted if Palace had a game abandoned when they were 5 up with 10 mins to go and it had to be replayed in full.

Or perhaps when George Courtney cut the match short because Palace fans were on the pitch side on the fateful day in May 1989. Replay in full and Rovers going up.

[arbitro]

4 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Or perhaps when George Courtney cut the match short because Palace fans were on the pitch side on the fateful day in May 1989. Replay in full and Rovers going up.

Your mention of that game out me in mind of another game which finished early due to a pitch invasion.

https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2013/september/19/throwback-thursday

Fulham appealed but the FA (not the Football League) threw it out. Given it was the last match it certainly wasn't a dead rubber. There was plenty at stake as Fulham could have been promoted and Derby relegated.

Slightly different circumstances here but the remaining 11 minutes of this match were played behind closed doors.

https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/sport/20089516.efl-issue-statement-oldham-athletic-v-salford-city/

[TruRover]

Full replay confirmed. 

[Waggy76]

58 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

 

Yeah I remember that one, it was around December 93/January 94. 

It was postponed just before kick off.

The game Simon Jordon is on about was apparently in 1997 with us already 2-0 up, no idea where he has plucked that one from.

I have never seen an abandoned game on Ewood until last Saturday, I can go back long before Simon Jordan. 

[Waggy76]

9 minutes ago, TruRover said:

Full replay confirmed. 

No surprise there! 

[USABlue]

If ut was about being fair there is only one way that makes it fair and that is to complete the match from where it ended and with the same line ups score cards everything.  As we thought full replay which we will duly surrender.  Hope we can get it played quick and not have to wait too long to put this to bed.

[Tom]

Well it is what it is, the good news is it’s a level playing field and we can just go and beat them as we were on track to do. 
 

[Uddersfelt Blue]

The club needs to make admission free for home fans and fill the ground giving Ipswich the upper tier of the Darwen End

[Tomphil2]

Obviously.

If the rules were there there'd have been no need for nearly a weeks pontificating for nothing.

[wilsdenrover]

Confirmed where?

[sjsbrfc]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Confirmed where?

No where yet, Nixon has said so, so it must be true 😉

[KentExile]

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile