v Queens Park Rangers (h) - 26/11/25, 19:45 k/o

[London blue]

42 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Sorry, not having that for one minute.

If there were 1000 in, or we were back in lockdown conditions and playing behind closed doors, thats still no excuse whatsoever for not performing.

Sorry fella but it's clear as day.

It's not as if we're no better at home, we're actively worse when playing at Ewood. The points return is horrendous.

Yes, it's because the team has been consistently downgraded, we have a talentless manager and sub par squad, but it's an unavoidable reality that the lack of atmosphere at home (which is wholly the responsibility of our owners) is undoubtedly detrimental to the performance of the team. 

[Miller11]

16 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

We've had managers in the past that have said we need to perform well to get the fans through the door or give the ones that are there something to shout about. Not this one.

There's quite a big excuse culture that's crept in with the current setup. There was too much focus on the 5,000 fans at Deepdale and the contrast to Ewood with not enough concentration from management on the need to turn the terrible home form around. It was never going to be the same atmosphere but highlighting it so much pre game does offer.... yes another........ excuse if we lose. Tee'd up nicely. 

I'm not bought in. Pointing towards Tronstad being out when half the current regimes signings play his position, are fit and available, and sparingly used isn't good enough. We're a team feeling sorry for ourselves at home with that being reinforced by the manager. It's about finding solutions and he isn't finding them.

Tavares, Baradji, Henriksson, De Neve, Forshaw largely ineffective. Pickering and Ribiero frozen out.

Nearly all of the above not being utilised is due to bad squad planning, not 4 or 5 players being injured.

Someone at the club needs sacking that's for sure. I doubt anyone will be.

and they won't get this seasons missing fans back at home until better expectations of the board, the players and the manager are in place. The rest won't return until the owners are gone.

Someone needs to step up off the field at Ewood and sort it all out. I'd also like to hear from the owners, simply to know if they still own the club and are alive.

Absolutely this! Nothing is ever the owners, Suhail, Yasir or Gestede’s fault. Ismael fits right in. Slopey shouldered liars.

[London blue]

4 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

There’s a few posts on here that seem to be hinting at the crowd (or lack of) being to blame for our awful home form - a disgraceful insinuation. Lets be honest, a hell of a lot of those who went to PNE did so for an evening out with the football a sideshow - certainly shouldn’t be using that as a benchmark for home support.

Quite frankly it’s an absolute miracle we get the attendances we do given we’ve had to put up with 15 years of hell. The powers that be at Ewood hold us all in utter contempt, and shame on any Rovers fan who is buying into this narrative they are none too subtly trying to spin. They don’t give a shit about increasing the attendance or atmosphere, they only care about increasing revenue but are too incompetent to try anything other than milking the few of us that are left.

I can take the bad results and performances (I had very low expectations this season), but I’m being pushed to the absolute limit by the owners, Suhail, Gestede, Ismael and Sufi. We are a husk of a club because of those people. The detachment the fanbase are feeling is totally unsurprising, and while terrible results don’t help the problems run much deeper.

You're conflating blame and outcome. 

Two things are true:

1. Crowds are criminally low because the ownership and upper management have systematically downgraded the club as a whole over a number of years to the point that people no longer associate with what they see, and either don't want to pay, or don't support as vociferously as they once did. 

2. Consequently the atmosphere at Ewood is a shadow of what it once was. Results paint it very clearly. The players prefer playing away.

None of these are the fault of the fans that have either stopped going or still suffer through this shit, but both are true.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, London blue said:

Sorry fella but it's clear as day.

It's not as if we're no better at home, we're actively worse when playing at Ewood. The points return is horrendous.

Yes, it's because the team has been consistently downgraded, we have a talentless manager and sub par squad, but it's an unavoidable reality that the lack of atmosphere at home (which is wholly the responsibility of our owners) is undoubtedly detrimental to the performance of the team. 

We are worse at home, but that's because the limited talents we do have are better suited to counter attacking than unlocking teams at home.

The crowds or atmosphere or lack thereof at Ewood should have no bearing on performances whatsoever.

What if we went into lockdown tomorrow? Should we just give up and concede the remainder of our games?

[London blue]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We are worse at home, but that's because the limited talents we do have are better suited to counter attacking than unlocking teams at home.

The crowds or atmosphere or lack thereof at Ewood should have no bearing on performances whatsoever.

What if we went into lockdown tomorrow? Should we just give up and concede the remainder of our games?

The point in making mate is that it actively has a negative effect, not just no effect.

I should also point out that I don't think that's acceptable, and that the team should have more backbone.

I agree with you in that the squad is better suited to playing counter attacking football but I do think playing at home is currently a disadvantage.

[Ghost7]

Ah yes, after all this, 15 years....... it was the fans that were the problem. Who'd have thought!

Any business that can't get enough customers only needs to look one way and that's inwards.

There have been about 10,000 Rovers fans pushed beyond the brink by the owners and their employees past and.... present. 

As owners it's simple get involved if you're sticking around... write an open letter of intent to the fans, it would take about 10 minutes, publish it even if you don't care all that much - explain you have a target, want to attend the matches and invest some personal wealth into the stadium and training facilities. 

Then sack all of the staff that haven't had the balls to tell you to do this.

[Miller11]

1 minute ago, London blue said:

You're conflating blame and outcome. 

Two things are true:

1. Crowds are criminally low because the ownership and upper management have systematically downgraded the club as a whole over a number of years to the point that people no longer associate with what they see, and either don't want to pay, or don't support as vociferously as they once did. 

2. Consequently the atmosphere at Ewood is a shadow of what it once was. Results paint it very clearly. The players prefer playing away.

None of these are the fault of the fans that have either stopped going or still suffer through this shit, but both are true.

Pears - should be grateful to be playing at all

Alebiosu - played primarily in Scotland (not for Rangers or Celtic)

McLoughlin - Started his career at Cork City

Pratt - must be pinching himself he’s not still at Victory Park

Miller - From a country where it’s not even the most popular form of football, also Hibs

Hedges - Flint, Orient, Stevenage, Yeovil…

Gardner Hickman - Unwanted by Birmingham

Montgomery - See Pratt

Morishita - A possible exception

Ohashi - Jumped at the chance to play in England having been in Japan all his career

Gudjohnsen - he’s not his father

 

If any of the above can’t properly motivate themselves playing at Ewood Park for Blackburn fucking Rovers then they should just give up.

 

[London blue]

1 minute ago, Ghost7 said:

Ah yes, after all this, 15 years....... it was the fans that were the problem. Who'd have thought!

Any business that can't get enough customers only needs to look one way and that's inwards.

There have been about 10,000 Rovers fans pushed beyond the brink by the owners and their employees past and.... present. 

As owners it's simple get involved if you're sticking around... write an open letter of intent to the fans, it would take about 10 minutes, publish it even if you don't care all that much - explain you have a target, want to attend the matches and invest some personal wealth into the stadium and training facilities. 

Then sack all of the staff that haven't had the balls to tell you to do this.

If this is aimed at me I'm afraid you've simply not read what I've posted.

I've repeatedly said that the responsibility lies with the owners. 

It's their fault that long term fans no longer go, their fault that those that do go feel apathetic and jaded.

It's quite simply true that attendance is awful and the stadium is quiet. You just can't argue with that.

My heart goes out to those that go, it's week after week of insult to them.

Please, don't misinterpret this as me blaming the fans, but simply stating that this is the result of Venky's continued fuckery.

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, London blue said:

I should also point out that I don't think that's acceptable, and that the team should have more backbone.

If you accept the above then Im not really sure what point you're trying to make in the first place.

They're paid to do a job. It's irrelevant whether there's 10 people, 1000, 10,000 or 30,000 in the stadium.

Or the underlying reason behind it. We all know it's the owners and management's fault but that's a different argument altogether.

Edited 51 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue

[London blue]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

If you accept the above then Im not really sure what point you're trying to make in the first place.

They're paid to do a job. It's irrelevant whether there's 10 people, 1000, 10,000 or 30,000 in the stadium.

Or the underlying reason behind it. That's a different argument altogether.

They're paid to do a job which is made harder 50% of the time. 

Yes, I expect better of them, but they're also fallible. If you can accept that playing at a packed Hillsborough or Elland Road is a boost, why is the opposite not true?

[Ghost7]

4 minutes ago, London blue said:

If this is aimed at me I'm afraid you've simply not read what I've posted.

I've repeatedly said that the responsibility lies with the owners. 

It's their fault that long term fans no longer go, their fault that those that do go feel apathetic and jaded.

It's quite simply true that attendance is awful and the stadium is quiet. You just can't argue with that.

My heart goes out to those that go, it's week after week of insult to them.

Please, don't misinterpret this as me blaming the fans, but simply stating that this is the result of Venky's continued fuckery.

Not aimed at you.

[London blue]

2 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Not aimed at you.

No bother then 👍

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, London blue said:

They're paid to do a job which is made harder 50% of the time. 

Yes, I expect better of them, but they're also fallible. If you can accept that playing at a packed Hillsborough or Elland Road is a boost, why is the opposite not true?

I've also seen us fold countless times under the weight of expectation of playing in front of a bigger than normal home crowd over the years. 

I dont think it should make any difference either way. They shouldn't bottle it in front of a big crowd and they shouldnt be demotivated by playing in front of smaller crowds.

At the very least if it does happen, hold your hands up after a poor performance and don't use it as an excuse!

We obviously dont agree on this and that's fine. No point going back and forward all night.

[Bbrovers2288]

Missed the game tonight due to work, sounds like a blessing in disguise. That is a truly awful result 

[yankfan]

Remember when Jaguar sales dropped by 97% and the blame was put on the consumers…oh wait it was their business decision that drove people away?  Blaming your customers for poor perform never works