Bigdoggsteel Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 We were 4 or was it 3 points off 3rd before the latest shitty run, 2 points from 12 and we are now 7 points off 3rd. Crazy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldEwoodBlue Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: We were 4 or was it 3 points off 3rd before the latest shitty run, 2 points from 12 and we are now 7 points off 3rd. Crazy stuff. When Graham scored the other day we were joint 3rd.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Shrek is coming for us. Derby are only 3 points behind us now. The battle for our top of the bottom of the league position is heating up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Nicked from Facebook but more proof that fans were right and Mowbray was wrong. We should have transferred Ben Benson and kept Raya with Walton in on loan as No 2 to push him and let Leutwiler forge a career elsewhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 It was always going to be the case that Raya went on to be a good keeper. When Brentford, with their spending levels and track record of player development, come along and offer millions for our keeper you can be sure that they know their stuff. The fact that we sold him for millions, attempted to blame him for our awful defensive record, replaced him with an inferior loan signing and are now expected to accept that there's no money for signings I think is a disgrace and a dereliction of duty. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldEwoodBlue Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, JHRover said: It was always going to be the case that Raya went on to be a good keeper. When Brentford, with their spending levels and track record of player development, come along and offer millions for our keeper you can be sure that they know their stuff. The fact that we sold him for millions, attempted to blame him for our awful defensive record, replaced him with an inferior loan signing and are now expected to accept that there's no money for signings I think is a disgrace and a dereliction of duty. It's also always going to be the case that ANY professional goalkeeper who comes here is not going to develop under a coach who once had a do in the nets between 2 jumpers and read a "how to be a goalkeeper" book. Absolute piss poor. On a par with tin pot Judan Ali. Like having the kid behind the bar in the BBE who can't pull a pint telling Danny Graham how to score goals. Hang on... is that who coaches our £12mill duds ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, Husky said: Shrek is coming for us. Derby are only 3 points behind us now. The battle for our top of the bottom of the league position is heating up. Amazingly he looks like he's led a hard life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 12 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said: It's also always going to be the case that ANY professional goalkeeper who comes here is not going to develop under a coach who once had a do in the nets between 2 jumpers and read a "how to be a goalkeeper" book. Absolute piss poor. On a par with tin pot Judan Ali. Our 3 recent keepers all seem to have (had) the same problem with crosses and balls into the box - (of which Raya was the worst of the 3). Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Husky said: Our 3 recent keepers all seem to have (had) the same problem with crosses and balls into the box - (of which Raya was the worst of the 3). Coincidence? Would this guy inspire you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stinny Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Just now, Scotland1 said: Would this guy inspire you Got to honest with you. That's near enough what I do with the team I help coach at U15s who plays goal. It's very basic and can be thought of on the spot. Surely there's more that goes on but not to impressed really for a pro. Edited January 3, 2020 by Tom Stinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Scotland1 said: Would this guy inspire you I didn't hear anything I could disagree with in all honesty. Working on weaknesses and working on various aspects is how to improve. If you were the goalkeeping coach how would you address the three goals we conceded at Forest which were all attributable to Walton? There's an old saying about making a silk purse out of a sows ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Stuart said: but more proof that fans were right and Mowbray was wrong. We kept the 2nd highest number of clean sheets in the league. More than Brentford have. You have overlook a number of mistakes Raya has made this season. twice over Christmas. Walton made 2 mistakes in the Forest game in all fairness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: We kept the 2nd highest number of clean sheets in the league. More than Brentford have. You have overlook a number of mistakes Raya has made this season. twice over Christmas. Walton made 2 mistakes in the Forest game in all fairness Surely goals conceded is a more useful stat than clean sheets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/weisseweste/wettbewerb/GB2 This also has Raya now on 9 clean sheets and Walton, with a few others, on 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Surely goals conceded is a more useful stat than clean sheets? Surely they should be one for keeper mistakes aswell. Surely all stats should be used not just the ones that favour your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Surely they should be one for keeper mistakes aswell. Surely all stats should be used not just the ones that favour your opinion No but I am saying the most important defensive stat is goals conceded. I dont rate Raya much either and he has obviously been helped by a good defence and not working with a novice coach. Walton is crap although you seemingly agree hence you saying we need a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Just now, roversfan99 said: No but I am saying the most important defensive stat is goals conceded. I dont rate Raya much either and he has obviously been helped by a good defence and not working with a novice coach. Walton is crap although you seemingly agree hence you saying we need a keeper. I say we need a keeper cos we wont have one on the books come end of the season. I've mention 2 keepers who are out of contract this summer. Both cheap deals to do. I've said which positions and who I would sign this window. Hengenhan would be squad player. Good header of the ball. Cooper I would chasing all day long Edited January 3, 2020 by chaddyrovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashed Potatoes Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: I say we need a keeper cos we wont have one on the books come end of the season. I've mention 2 keepers who are out of contract this summer. Both cheap deals to do. I've said which positions and who I would sign this window. Hengenhan would be squad player. Good header of the ball. Cooper I would chasing all day long Cooper plays for the club who currently sit in 7th position in the table.Has he really let his contract run down so that he will be able to engineer a move to the club who are in 13th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: Cooper plays for the club who currently sit in 7th position in the table.Has he really let his contract run down so that he will be able to engineer a move to the club who are in 13th ? Does look like Cooper signed long term deal last December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: We kept the 2nd highest number of clean sheets in the league. More than Brentford have. You have overlook a number of mistakes Raya has made this season. twice over Christmas. Walton made 2 mistakes in the Forest game in all fairness If you think Walton is adequate then we’ll have to agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Stuart said: If you think Walton is adequate then we’ll have to agree to disagree. Walton is inconsistent too far. Make some good games but some poor errors just like Raya did when he was just he still does now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Walton is inconsistent too far. Make some good games but some poor errors just like Raya did when he was just he still does now So inadequate then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just checked our fixtures there PNE (H) Sheffield Wednesday (A) QPR (H) Boro (A) Fulham (H) Hull (H) Hard to see where the points will come from after the PNE game. Need to be winning that. Would be doing well to get 6 points from the next 5 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted January 6, 2020 Backroom Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) They are all theoretically winnable games as every one of those teams has been inconsistent form-wise. Problem is when we're circling down one of Mowbray's death spirals we're extremely consistent form-wise in failing to win. So it depends how long this latest disaster-run lasts. Without Dack I can see it stretching on for as long if not longer than last year's February-March catastrophe. Edited January 6, 2020 by DE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Just checked our fixtures there PNE (H) Sheffield Wednesday (A) QPR (H) Boro (A) Fulham (H) Hull (H) Hard to see where the points will come from after the PNE game. Need to be winning that. Would be doing well to get 6 points from the next 5 games. QPR game been rearranged. Nothing to fear from any of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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