Jordan Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Newcastle's pace really worries me about Saturdays game. Owen, Martins, Dyer, Milner all have pace to burn. I also have a tenner on 0-0 at 10/1 so it will be extra special if it ends up like this however the result for Rovers will always be better than money. B011ocks....Come on Newcastle!!
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Hasta Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Newcastle were absolutely dire there. Titus Bramble. It's now nearly official. We need to beat Newcastle and Reading and let ourselves lose to Spurs. We also need Everton to beat Pompey and Notlob to win another game somewhere.
Bobby G Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 So many complications. This effectively means that as long as we beat Reading Newcastle wont overtake us from. On the other hand, Everton vs Portsmouth is a big game, and Spurs need to win pretty much at least 2 of their games at least. Bolton must win one more and all those conditions fulfilled will mean we have Intertoto Cup football. Confused?
Eddie Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 We can afford to win all three of our games. By beating Reading we probably prevent them from making Europe and they still have to play Bolton (money would be on Bolton).
Hasta Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Or just win all our games and hope Not that simple. Beating Spurs could be the result that stops us getting into the Intertoto. We simply can't afford for Pompey to beat Everton on Saturday. Eddie - Reading only have 2 games left , us and Watford at home.
Eddie Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Ah, sorry, must be Newcastle then who play Bolton? I just checked fixtures but can't remember who I looked at.
Hasta Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Tut tut, after I'd taken the time to type it all out for you. Remaining Fixtures:- BOLTON - West ham away , Aston Villa home EVERTON - Portsmouth home , Chelski away PORTSMOUTH - Everton away , Arsenal Home TOTTINGHAM - Charlton away , Rovers home , Man City home READING - Watford home , Rovers away ROVERS - Newcastle away , Tottingham away , Reading home NEWCASTLE - Rovers home , Watford away Everton V Portsmouth - 5th May - Really need an Everton win, especially as they are away at Chelski the week after. Rovers V Reading - 13th May - Possibly a game only a win will do for both of us.
philipl Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 If all those fixtures are home wins, Rovers qualify for the Intertoto. Bolton are the team I have a horrible feeling could blow up and let either Pompey or Reading into 5th to 7th. Everton not losing to Pompey is far more massive for us then any of our fixtures until we play Reading. Rovers v Reading is simply a must win.
Martin Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 As people as rightly pointing out it will come down to the Rovers Reading game. It is a must win, well as for as the intertoto is concerned.I have to say it's far too complicated really. We are not just relying on one or two results we are relying on four or five different games. 1st: Everton need to beat Portsmouth. I'll assume they are losing at Celsea so that's 3 points for them. 2nd: Bolton need 3 points from W'ham away and Villla at home. They have a good chance of that. 3rd: Spurs can lose at Charlton and beat us and City at home. Very feasible. 6 points for them. 4th: Portsmouth to lose at Everton, but can beat Arsenal. 3 points. 5th: Reading are the problem. They will beat Watford. That means we need to beat them. 6th: All we need to do is beat Reading. We can lose at Newcastle and Spurs - those games are meaningless. Apart from the Spurs game which is a must lose game! If all that happens the table looks like this: 5th: Spurs 59 points 6th: Bolton 58 points 7th: Everton 57 points - (good goal difference) 8th: Reading 57 points 9th: Portsmouth 56 points 10th: Blackburn 'say we are intertoto' Rovers 50 points. 11th: Villa - they'll win one, lose one. So it's easy really.
MarkBRFC Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 3rd: Spurs can lose at Charlton and beat us and City at home. Very feasible. 6 points for them. Or, Spurs can beat Charlton & City, and lose to us?!
stuwilky Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 6th: All we need to do is beat Reading. We can lose at Newcastle and Spurs - those games are meaningless. Apart from the Spurs game which is a must lose game! Unless getting beaten by Newcastle means they finish above us!
modes98 Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 2nd: Bolton need 3 points from W'ham away The form West Ham are in i doubt that notlob will get 3 points, unless they get the new manager effect I reckon a draw at best and that means they are on 56 points and in the intertoto. This could be a rare situation where i support notlob. I think spurs have it in the bag, probably win all 3 games. Everton should just scrap through and then it's down to us beating reading.
LeftWinger Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 The form West Ham are in i doubt that notlob will get 3 points, unless they get the new manager effect They have got to play Villa at home too remember
charcerzyk Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Hi there Please just tell me one thing. Are we going to play each other again this summer? We may show you this time how to play well. Can U explain me the rules for enter Intertoto Cup by English teams? How many places? and when? So far... Man U , Chealsa, Liverpool, Arslenal will play in Champions League. Bolton, Reading and Everton in Uefa Cup. How many English teams go to Intertoto? As far as I understand just one team from each country. At the cup... I round 23.06, 30.06 14. Lithuana (Vėtra Wilno) - Wales (Llanelli AFC) II round 7.07, 14.07 L. winner 14 - Poland (Korona Kielce, Wisla Krakow, or Legia Warszawa) III round 21.07, 28.07 winner L - England U will definitely see Polish team at the third round. Which English team plays Intertoto Cup this season? Portsmouth or Tottenham... The team that finishes eighth in the Premiership will be offered the chance to enter at the third-round stage. The winners of the tie, to be played over two legs, will then secure a place in the Uefa Cup. Wales' representatives will come in at the start on 23-24 June against a side from Lithuania, and will face a Polish side in the second round.
Hasta Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Unless getting beaten by Newcastle means they finish above us! Even if Newcastle beat us, we finish above them if we beat Reading.
modes98 Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 They have got to play Villa at home too remember I assumed that table took into account the 6 points mentioned! In which case buy the champagne we're going into europe.
charcerzyk Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Guys U have no chances for 8th place. 2 more games and U are 6 points behind. Are u counting on Portsmouth and Tottenham losses in both matches?
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Here is another factor for the equation - what would happen if Spuds won the UEFA Fair play place - but also qualified by league placing ? Would that mean an additional UEFA spot ? This could get really complicated
Jan Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Guys U have no chances for 8th place. 2 more games and U are 6 points behind. Are u counting on Portsmouth and Tottenham losses in both matches? As long as Portsmouth and Reading stay out of the automatic places, we go into the Intertoto. Portsmouth and Reading haven't entered.
bringdunnback Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 I think Portsmouth will end up applying for the intertoto cup
charcerzyk Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 I'm not gettin it. It states clearly that 8th Premiership place goes to Intertoto. Why should Reading and Portsmouth be out of this rule? They didn't apply for the entry ?
Hasta Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Catch up lads! Wikipedia sums it up easily: Any club which wishes to participate must apply for entry, with the highest placed club (by league position in their domestic league) at the end of the season entering the competition. The club does not necessarily have to be ranked directly below the clubs which have qualified for another UEFA competition; if the club which is in this position did not apply, they will not be eligible to compete in the Intertoto Cup, with the space instead going to the club which did apply. We think deadline day for entry has already passed and Portsmouth and Reading have NOT applied.
AndyR Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Pompey opted to play in the Asia cup, a lucrative preseason tournament thing and tried to back out, but couldn't. They won't be in the Intertoto.
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