Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If we keep signing players without getting rid of them then we would have too many players in the building. 

Service and chances created is more important and would Shearer have scored all those great goals for us without players like Ripley, Wilson and Le Saux. 

That's why need to created more chances whether from set pieces or open play. Plus get 3 or 4 players in the box when crosses are coming in. Not just Ohashi on his own. 

You’re right on that point. We never seem to “ flood the box “. WBA scored their goal because they had plenty of players in our box and the ball fell to one of them.

[Mattyblue]

Yeah get Travis, Brittain et al out the door ASAP as we won’t have enough clothes hooks in the dressing room otherwise!

Edited 4 hours ago by Mattyblue

[KentExile]

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Service and chances created is more important and would Shearer have scored all those great goals for us without players like Ripley, Wilson and Le Saux. 

Wilcox 😉 

I actually just spent 5 minutes wondering if I had selective memory loss and couldn't remember one of our title winning side

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile

[sharpysharps86]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If we keep signing players without getting rid of them then we would have too many players in the building. 

But they haven't been doing that. Your point is only relevant if Rovers are doing that. 🙂

[roversfan99]

22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If we keep signing players without getting rid of them then we would have too many players in the building. 

Service and chances created is more important and would Shearer have scored all those great goals for us without players like Ripley, Wilson and Le Saux. 

That's why need to created more chances whether from set pieces or open play. Plus get 3 or 4 players in the box when crosses are coming in. Not just Ohashi on his own. 

No doubt that strikers would score less without better players out wide, but better strikers find themselves getting chances either way due to their movement and anticipation. The Rhodes example was a good one by @MarkBRFC how did he score 30 goals considering the crap around him? Similar with Szmodics.

Sadly, we have a lack of quality both up front and in the wide areas.

This nonsense about players "in the building" is just parroted claptrap. Why is the future of Leonard who will be on peanuts and isnt involved with the first team relevant? Are we really that hard up that a couple of grand a week or whatever is stopping us from signing anyone? 

Buckley isnt in first team squads, he is behind a kid who has started 2 senior games and done terribly in both, and was in the 9th tier last season. Again, what is he blocking?

Is it financial? Car park spaces? Hooks to put kit on? 

[lraC]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

No doubt that strikers would score less without better players out wide, but better strikers find themselves getting chances either way due to their movement and anticipation. The Rhodes example was a good one by @MarkBRFC how did he score 30 goals considering the crap around him? Similar with Szmodics.

Sadly, we have a lack of quality both up front and in the wide areas.

This nonsense about players "in the building" is just parroted claptrap. Why is the future of Leonard who will be on peanuts and isnt involved with the first team relevant? Are we really that hard up that a couple of grand a week or whatever is stopping us from signing anyone? 

Buckley isnt in first team squads, he is behind a kid who has started 2 senior games and done terribly in both, and was in the 9th tier last season. Again, what is he blocking?

Is it financial? Car park spaces? Hooks to put kit on? 

He knows only too well, that there is no way this should be happening, but for some reason, carries on being the contrarian on this site.

[GHD]

31 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You’re right on that point. We never seem to “ flood the box “. WBA scored their goal because they had plenty of players in our box and the ball fell to one of them.

We “flooded the box” on Saturday and conceded the winner

[chaddyrovers]

30 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You’re right on that point. We never seem to “ flood the box “. WBA scored their goal because they had plenty of players in our box and the ball fell to one of them.

We did on Saturday and it cost us a point

16 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

But they haven't been doing that. Your point is only relevant if Rovers are doing that. 🙂

But you would now. If you keep signing players without getting rid. 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

No doubt that strikers would score less without better players out wide, but better strikers find themselves getting chances either way due to their movement and anticipation. The Rhodes example was a good one by @MarkBRFC how did he score 30 goals considering the crap around him? Similar with Szmodics.

Sadly, we have a lack of quality both up front and in the wide areas.

This nonsense about players "in the building" is just parroted claptrap. Why is the future of Leonard who will be on peanuts and isnt involved with the first team relevant? Are we really that hard up that a couple of grand a week or whatever is stopping us from signing anyone? 

Buckley isnt in first team squads, he is behind a kid who has started 2 senior games and done terribly in both, and was in the 9th tier last season. Again, what is he blocking?

Yet again, you can't keep signing players after players without selling/loaning players. It's fairly simple maths and simple football matters. 

Strikers need service to score. Pleased you aren't our head coach cos our striker would have created their own chances. 

Same old similar boring comments every day. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We did on Saturday and it cost us a point

But you would now. If you keep signing players without getting rid. 

Yet again, you can't keep signing players after players without selling/loaning players. It's fairly simple maths and simple football matters. 

Strikers need service to score. Pleased you aren't our head coach cos our striker would have created their own chances. 

Same old similar boring comments every day. 

The difference was WBA got the delivery right, we didn’t.

[toogs]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Same old similar boring comments every day. 

If that's the case, why don't you just skip over their posts and don't read them?

That's what I do with yours most of the time.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 minutes ago, GHD said:

We “flooded the box” on Saturday and conceded the winner

Like I said to Chaddy - it’s relying on the set piece delivery being right. If a pro footballer can’t take a corner we might as well all stay in our own half.

Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We did on Saturday and it cost us a point

But you would now. If you keep signing players without getting rid. 

Yet again, you can't keep signing players after players without selling/loaning players. It's fairly simple maths and simple football matters. 

Strikers need service to score. Pleased you aren't our head coach cos our striker would have created their own chances. 

Same old similar boring comments every day. 

So its because we cant afford to sign someone without loaning out a young lad who isnt part of the first team? 

"Simple football matters" yet you arent implicitly saying its financial or otherwise.

[Leonard Venkhater]

48 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You’re right on that point. We never seem to “ flood the box “. WBA scored their goal because they had plenty of players in our box and the ball fell to one of them.

And Brum scored their goal because we had too many players in their box...just saying lol

[GHD]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Same old similar boring comments every day. 

Pot and kettle

[Upside Down]

38 minutes ago, lraC said:

He knows only too well, that there is no way this should be happening, but for some reason, carries on being the contrarian on this site.

I genuinely don't think he does know.

[davulsukur]

Really poor manager. 

Gestede has had another absolute mare.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, den said:

That’s a naive thing to say.

Those two would score goals in any team Chaddy.  They created plenty of their own chances like err….. good strikers do.  Would you have made Ripley a priority signing over Shearer?

Spot on.

You need players who make things happen themselves.

Sadly, we have no players capable of that.

[Lancaster Rover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Then you need to sell or loan players our in order to bring players in. 

Some signings will work out and some won't just like every season in football 

With the greatest respect, who is buying our remaining players at fee's that would allow us to make upgrades. Some will work out some won't is tired trope, we've not signed anyone this year who looks an obvious upgrade on what was there before them. That player trading model has one outcome I'm afraid. 

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Service and chances created is more important and would Shearer have scored all those great goals for us without players like Ripley, Wilson and Le Saux. 

Billy Wilson left Rovers in 1972!

[Lancaster Rover]

The creativity argument is a bit of a red herring, I mentioned it last week but Brittain created 40 chances last year which only converted to 2 direct and 2 indirect assists. Which to me tells me an awful lot about out ability to finish chances

 

[sharpysharps86]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

But you would now. If you keep signing players without getting rid. 

I would now what? I don't understand what you're saying there.

Every signing we have made so far is pretty much a replacement for an outgoing player. No stock piling there.

Most people on here are saying we need a RW and a Striker, and then a Trav replacement, and I think that's entirely fair. The striker would essentially be a replacement for Weimann. The RW is a spot we are clearly lacking in as we only have one recognised right winger, and then the Trav replacement is again (drum roll).....another replacement. Again, not really stock piling is it. 🙂

I haven't even said we should be stock piling, I don't think anyone else has either(?). You're the one who said "we can't keep stock piling players" as though that's what the club have been doing. My point was simply this - the club haven't been stock piling anything.

I don't think the concept of needing to get rid of players when you bring new ones in is anything anybody disagrees with, but you're the one who said "we can't keep stock piling players", which I found to be an odd statement to make given we haven't. 🙂

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

And Brum scored their goal because we had too many players in their box...just saying lol

At least one of our players should have been in the area in front of the near post, for a flick-on if it is a bad corner. Again this comes down to pre-planning for set pieces

[Miller11]

I’d have been furious at the time if we’d kept the centre halves back for that corner, or if we’d played it short to run down the clock. No issues with us pushing for the winner.

However, the abysmal delivery and terrible positioning from the corner are just another two in the long line of examples where we get the very basics wrong. Aside from when Miller came in we conceded possession almost immediately from every single throw we had (been going on for years). John Buckley seems to be the only player in our squad that can play a good dead ball with any degree of consistency. Whenever I see us have a corner I always think we’d be so easy to defend against.

I noticed on Saturday that our head physio was taking the shooting drills with the subs in the warm up, laying them off. Pretty sure this used to be David Lowe’s job. While Andy Procter is an ex pro (unlike other members of our coaching staff), I’m not sure why this has fallen to him. Definitely suggests we are short on coaches.

[Mattyblue]

No we’ve got loads somebody was saying… don’t want to stockpile, not enough whistles to go round!

Can get the coaches doing physio too, why not.

Edited 1 hour ago by Mattyblue