Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

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1 hour ago, jim mk2 said:

I don’t think they’ll sack him yet if at all but a couple of more defeats and any manager with any self awareness would realise their position is untenable and resign.

It has been noted elsewhere but this is where the decline in the influence of  local newspapers and local reporters hits hard. The press of years gone by would have calling for change in 150pt bold headlines long before now

 

No reason we he still can't do that surely. They removed him I'd do everything I could to make it hard work

[Tomphil2]

The clappers narrative used to be 'they want to invest but can't because of FFP'.

That has been packed away now along with '20 million a season' to be replaced by 'transition' which used to be 'trust the journey/process/project'.

End of the day these idiots will wilfully swallow any old guff some preach except the cold hard truth. Which is there'll be another cashing in/rebuilding process in summer so follows another season of 'transition'.

This club permanently sits under this running and ownership between transition and stagnation. There has never been a build journey/process nor project because every single attempt at it has been torpedoed.

Either on purpose or through some cock up and no amount of flannel now can cover this. As in politics the silent majority is where it's at and when they speak the truth is laid bare.

Ewood on matchdays should be enough tell these idiots the game is up.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

From the Facebook page. I kid ye not.....

 

Genuine question for rovers ‘fans’ what are your expectations for this season?

We’re clearly in a transitional year. This is a rebuild with a largely new squad that needs time to gel, find the right formation, develop patterns of play, and grow together. The aim is to keep this group together and build on it next season. That appears to be the plan.

So why do we have a new team in the first place?

Because the club had little choice. Players like Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Szmodics and others wanted to move on. That’s football. They’re professionals, and like anyone in employment, they’ll go where the opportunity and pay are better. If they weren’t willing to sign new deals, the club was right to move them on rather than risk losing them for nothing.

Given all that, expecting instant success with a brand new squad just isn’t realistic.

Last season, when we went to Bramall Lane and missed out on the play-offs by a single point, there was no shortage of support. Tickets were in huge demand and everyone wanted to be there. That’s the easy part. Where was your boycotts then??

Real support is backing the team when things are difficult, during a rebuild, and when results aren’t perfect. This season is about patience, perspective, and getting behind a group that’s still finding its feet. Section of our supporters I actually think are the worst fans in the whole country I know every club has them but I think ours could be worst.

So again, what do fans realistically expect this season, knowing where the club is and why?

Below was less then 12 months ago, some of you are pathetic and need to pick up your dummies and toys and put them back in the pram…..

 

I'm not one for name calling but what a bellend. 

[Roverthechimp]

3 hours ago, den said:

Managers don’t resign any more Jim, why would they? Stay put and they’re guaranteed to receive their full contract value.

The owners have to sack them. They should sack him because the alternative is relegation. Even if they sack him I’ll have no confidence that they will bring someone better. That’s what 15 years of this lot does to fans.

We are unique in that respect - our managers offer to resign without compensation and get told that they have to pay to get out... 

[OnionBalaji]

Question for Chaddy… 

big val in or big val out? 

[DeeCee]

[roverandout]

16 hours ago, OnionBalaji said:

Question for Chaddy… 

big val in or big val out? 

Chaddy's on a sabbatical 

[miqaayil]

Any football club would sack VI after the ipswich game ...but i have come to realize we are no longer a football club but a asset stripping and laundry business of Pasha and Agents with SBI PUBLIC MONIES...so this shit will go on till the bow breaks and cradle falls... i was hoping the case will be the final straw but it seems we gonna weather this till earliest 2029( those who know will know )

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, miqaayil said:

 but it seems we gonna weather this till earliest 2029( those who know will know )

Care to explain why 2029 is significant?

[lraC]

57 minutes ago, miqaayil said:

Any football club would sack VI after the ipswich game ...but i have come to realize we are no longer a football club but a asset stripping and laundry business of Pasha and Agents with SBI PUBLIC MONIES...so this shit will go on till the bow breaks and cradle falls... i was hoping the case will be the final straw but it seems we gonna weather this till earliest 2029( those who know will know )

 

[JBiz]

3 hours ago, miqaayil said:

Any football club would sack VI after the ipswich game ...but i have come to realize we are no longer a football club but a asset stripping and laundry business of Pasha and Agents with SBI PUBLIC MONIES...so this shit will go on till the bow breaks and cradle falls... i was hoping the case will be the final straw but it seems we gonna weather this till earliest 2029( those who know will know )

If you think you’ve got some sort of secret, either just keep it entirely to yourself or just spill it - don’t play games like the last sentence. I’m sure we’re all fucked off with Rovers at the moment, we don’t need blue balls.

Goes without saying we all want / need a new ownership scenario (Mercer never backed up his rumour on that btw, another dick tease) but I think it’s easy to see at this point just how bad Valerien Ismael is. 
 

Of course there are some viable excuses like injuries or referee performances but they’re excuses at the end of the day. Have we ever looked like running away with a game? We look disorganised, sluggish, clueless with the ball in the final third, timid at defensive set pieces, useless at attacking set pieces.

 

is there a single player you can say he’s improved? I think you could argue Pratt, but then he says yes to a loan left sided centre back (who looks way out of shape btw) and drops the actual “asset”.

 

I think it’s fair to give people time and chances, I’d apply the same thing to the DOF, but it’s quite clear the lot of them are nowhere near up to it;

 

If we stay up it’ll be a miracle. 

 

[DE.]

Hull early this season probably the best/only choice in terms of a game we dominated? They were ravaged by illness though, which is probably why. 

Last season under Ismael we also beat Millwall 4-1 somewhat randomly, although it was after we'd tanked our playoff hopes yet again, so more a last hurrah for the nearly men before most of them got shipped out. 

[den]

and if we sack him?

Well ask fans at any football club what they wanted a new manager to achieve and they’ll say they want someone who can bring better players to the club and who will improve results. Nothing much more than that. I think that’s what every club would try to do.

Not here though. They had a manager who could do that and indeed did do that in place when they bought us but they sacked him within weeks. That patently isnt what they want from any manager. They just want someone to work with any player given to them. Work with them and improve them for only one reason - financial gain. 
 

That won’t change and that just contributes to the disenchantment that runs throughout the club and the fans. Nobody could get behind that apart from the owners blindly backed by Pasha. Running the club that way can never bring success without a huge amount of pure luck.

It’s been happening for fifteen years now and the fans are - and have been walking away throughout that time. They are killing the club and they don’t give a toss. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by den

[Athlete]

This guy is a complete useless manager unless a change we are down

Its heartbreaking they just dont seem to care well I wont care on Saturday for one game everyone needs to do the same and not go !

[RTM08]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C4KwGX3n2/

He's utterly deluded. I get he has to say certain things but to act like there are no real issues, "we know we can score goals" and "we need to get back on the winning streak" is just insulting to anyone who has watched us at all this season.

[dallydally]

4 minutes ago, Athlete said:

This guy is a complete useless manager unless a change we are down

Its heartbreaking they just dont seem to care well I wont care on Saturday for one game everyone needs to do the same and not go !

He is useless and was a seriously bad choice in the first place

The owners don't care one jot and it's now 3 seasons since my son and I said enough is enough. I support any withdrawal by fans. This is the only was to get rid of the cancer which permeates this Club

[JBiz]

23 minutes ago, den said:

and if we sack him?

Well ask fans at any football club what they wanted a new manager to achieve and they’ll say they want someone who can bring better players to the club and who will improve results. Nothing much more than that. I think that’s what every club would try to do.

Not here though. They had a manager who could do that and indeed did do that in place when they bought us but they sacked him within weeks. That patently isnt what they want from any manager. They just want someone to work with any player given to them. Work with them and improve them for only one reason - financial gain. 
 

That won’t change and that just contributes to the disenchantment that runs throughout the club and the fans. Nobody could get behind that apart from the owners blindly backed by Pasha. Running the club that way can never bring success without a huge amount of pure luck.

It’s been happening for fifteen years now and the fans are - and have been walking away throughout that time. They are killing the club and they don’t give a toss. 

 

I agree, a good manager coming in would be a fluke. 
 

Id rather that though than hope and wait for Valerian to develop some acumen. I’d rather Damien Johnson had the job as desperate as that sounds.

Im sure Lenny Venkhater has already done it, but here’s my bastardised version of JCC;

 

The fucking footballs fucking dull

The fucking stands are never full 

There’s only girls and fucking guys 

With fucking murder in their eyes

A fucking bloke is fucking subbed

I’m waiting in the fucking club

You fucking stay at fucking home

The fucking neighbours fucking roar

 

Keep the fucking rovers down

This is fucking Venkytown

[den]

8 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I agree, a good manager coming in would be a fluke. 
 

Id rather that though than hope and wait for Valerian to develop some acumen. I’d rather Damien Johnson had the job as desperate as that sounds.

Im sure Lenny Venkhater has already done it, but here’s my bastardised version of JCC;

 

 

The fucking footballs fucking dull

The fucking stands are never full 

There’s only girls and fucking guys 

With fucking murder in their eyes

A fucking bloke is fucking subbed

I’m waiting in the fucking club

You fucking stay at fucking home

The fucking neighbours fucking roar

 

Keep the fucking rovers down

This is fucking Venkytown

I actually meant being successful with that way of running the club would need a huge chunk of luck.

[bigbrandjohn]

53 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I agree, a good manager coming in would be a fluke. 
 

Id rather that though than hope and wait for Valerian to develop some acumen. I’d rather Damien Johnson had the job as desperate as that sounds.

Im sure Lenny Venkhater has already done it, but here’s my bastardised version of JCC;

 

 

The fucking footballs fucking dull

The fucking stands are never full 

There’s only girls and fucking guys 

With fucking murder in their eyes

A fucking bloke is fucking subbed

I’m waiting in the fucking club

You fucking stay at fucking home

The fucking neighbours fucking roar

 

Keep the fucking rovers down

This is fucking Venkytown

 Belter. This is indeed  Chickentown. 

[bigbrandjohn]

I wonder who decides enough is enough? 
 

Rudy will drag his heels because he is one of his own. Plus it makes his position flaky. 

Problem is that if we bin Ishmael then we will only pick up an out of work manager who will want assurances and a hefty bonus to keep us up. And there is a reason they are out of work  

All money we apparently don’t have. That’s before the long term contract pay off money for “Ish” and his team.