simongarnerisgod Posted Tuesday at 18:01 Posted Tuesday at 18:01 6 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: Yeah, really get the impression that Ismael and Gueye dislike one another. Shame as on his day Gueye is absolutely unplayable. Need to unlock that. he offers us an outball because he can win headers and is a handful for centre backs with his size and naive clumsiness,id`e stick with him,he might absolutely smash it in his second season,for me,id`e play him as centre forward and oyashi just off him as a second striker with a free role 4 Quote
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Exiled_Rover Posted Tuesday at 18:14 Posted Tuesday at 18:14 7 hours ago, Torgeir said: Wonder if Gueye will leave. Not well suited for the high press and limited potential. We'll need another CF if Gueye leaves. I like Ohashi, but absolutely nothing sticks when he's playing upfront. He gets bullied. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Tuesday at 18:19 Posted Tuesday at 18:19 2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: We'll need another CF if Gueye leaves. I like Ohashi, but absolutely nothing sticks when he's playing upfront. He gets bullied. tidy footballer,bit lightweight for english football imo,reminds me of formica,the argentinian we signed in king rats tenure Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Tuesday at 20:18 Posted Tuesday at 20:18 Ohashi isn't the type of forward who hold the ball like Gueye but he makes clever runs and wants to run in behind the defence. Plus press from the front. I would keep Gueye cos sometimes you might want to start him in Target man type role or has Plan B  Quote
Tugayisgod Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago VI obviously sees something in Forshaw that a lot don't. Have to say I don't think he's been as bad as some people state, think there was an agenda against him from the start. Cover for Trav and Sonny is fine by me (as long as we get those 2 tied down) https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25123501.blackburn-rovers-boss-drops-hint-contract-lion/ Quote
davulsukur Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 18 hours ago, Claytons Left Boot said: Yes, I know. I’ve already agreed that fact with the first poster that said the same. Celtic probably won’t want to sell him, as he’s become a decent squad member. Just trying to point out the amount Celtic would want to receive for him, in the hypothetical situation of him becoming available. It’s a non starter. Yeah, i'm not having a go at you or anything, i know you're only passing on info/knowledge. Just trying to generally dampen expectations of the club being ambitious, before Nixon starts firing up his "Warchest" articles again. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: VI obviously sees something in Forshaw that a lot don't. Have to say I don't think he's been as bad as some people state, think there was an agenda against him from the start. Cover for Trav and Sonny is fine by me (as long as we get those 2 tied down) https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25123501.blackburn-rovers-boss-drops-hint-contract-lion/ Trav and Tronstad will not get tied down. I think that's pretty obvious now. 3 Quote
den Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago I’ve not seen anything in either Gueye or Ohashi to change my mind. Neither of them offer enough. Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 47 minutes ago, den said: I’ve not seen anything in either Gueye or Ohashi to change my mind. Neither of them offer enough. I like Ohashi. Sure he's not the out and out CF we all want but 9 goals and 4 assists in all competitions (8 goals and 3 assists in the league) is better than I think most expected from such a cheap signing. Gueye on the other hand, I'd be shopping him around this summer with a view to bringing someone else in. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I dont understand how anyone cannot rated Ohashi as striker 7 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 16 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: he offers us an outball because he can win headers and is a handful for centre backs with his size and naive clumsiness,id`e stick with him,he might absolutely smash it in his second season,for me,id`e play him as centre forward and oyashi just off him as a second striker with a free role I agree.... Gueye strikes me as a forward who if you can get it all to click can be a top player. Has much more about him imo than say Brereton Diaz, and BBDs turnaround in the 21/22 season was incredible. Could see something from Geyue like that, when his confidence is up, fully embedded in the league and the patterns of play etc. I'd definitely keep Gueye and have him central to our plans. It's just I don't think Ismael is a fan and the feeling is mutual. To be honest we are going to need to sign so many players this summer not having to also find a replacement for Gueye would allow us to focus on the areas that need addressing. Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I dont understand how anyone cannot rated Ohashi as striker Agreed. Absolutely works his nuts off, gets goals, good technique. One of our best £ for £ signings at £300k I think? 5 Quote
bluebruce Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tugayisgod said: VI obviously sees something in Forshaw that a lot don't. Have to say I don't think he's been as bad as some people state, think there was an agenda against him from the start. Cover for Trav and Sonny is fine by me (as long as we get those 2 tied down) https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25123501.blackburn-rovers-boss-drops-hint-contract-lion/ He might not be as bad as some state, but he still isn't good enough. Downgrading from Baker to him as our midfield cover was a factor in our plummeting down the table. He's also 34 and will only get worse. Absolutely shouldn't be re-signed, we can do better. 3 Quote
lraC Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: I dont understand how anyone cannot rated Ohashi as striker I am a fan of his and for the amount we paid, think he is well worthy of the "We got this one right" tag. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago When everyone is fit, Forshaw occasionally coming on as a third midfielder to help to manage a lead, not so bad. But when you start getting injuries and needing him to start games, hes not good enough. He shouldnt get a new deal. I dont think Ohashi is good enough to be the first choice striker for a top half Championship side, but I do think hes more of a striker than a number 10 and he is definitely a useful player to have around. Problem is, we wont sign a better striker to be first choice. Gueye I think is better off moving on. He doesnt really fit in with the rest of the team and needs a very specific way of playing. He doesnt offer much in the way of goal threat and recently has shown poor body language when he has come on as if he is annoyed. 1 Quote
Hasta Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Tugayisgod said: VI obviously sees something in Forshaw that a lot don't. Have to say I don't think he's been as bad as some people state, think there was an agenda against him from the start. Cover for Trav and Sonny is fine by me (as long as we get those 2 tied down) https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25123501.blackburn-rovers-boss-drops-hint-contract-lion/ There was no agenda against him. We knew we were short in midfield if we got any injuries, lost Travis to injury and then lost Baker who had been our first choice cover. We therefore needed a player who throughout January would be a first choice midfielder, and then would flit between first choice and cover for the remainder of the season. We brought in someone who couldn't get into the side at the bottom of the league. It was disappointing that again there was no effort made by the club to support the position the team had got themselves into. Forshaw then started some games and looked fairly terrible. His appearances lately haven't been so bad, but I still dont want him as 3rd choice midfielder who may well have to step in for long periods if one of Trav or Tron is injured. However I suspect he is quite cheap and willing to accept a short term deal, so fits with our strategy of unable to make long-term financial commitments. Â Edited 12 hours ago by Hasta Quote
KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I dont think Ohashi is good enough to be the first choice striker for a top half Championship side, but I do think hes more of a striker than a number 10 and he is definitely a useful player to have around. Problem is, we wont sign a better striker to be first choice. Gueye I think is better off moving on. He doesnt really fit in with the rest of the team and needs a very specific way of playing. He doesnt offer much in the way of goal threat and recently has shown poor body language when he has come on as if he is annoyed. The amount of players Rovers have who are not top half players (Ohashi, Pickering, Dolan, Pears, Hedges, (even Tronstad according to one), have been regular starters in squads which keeps finishing in the top half 😉 Or maybe, just maybe, many people completely overestimate exactly what a top half Championship player looks like? Edited 12 hours ago by KentExile 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I also cant understand how people still sometimes justify players signing here with the premise that "oh well, they are only squad players." One of the main themes in recent season has been a strong start which has nosedived partly because our small squad has lacked the quality in depth to cope with a long season and player unavailability. Forshaw is a great example. Its all well and good making the odd cameo alongside Travis and Tronstad. When one or both of those were injured and he had to start, it was an example of how big the gap was between first choice and backup. Obviously we wont get players as squad players of that quality but its the gulf in difference of quality that is the issue. If we decide to have players like Forshaw and Hedges then we are accepting that we arent bothered about having a competitive and deep enough squad to cope. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, KentExile said: The amount of players Rovers have who are not top half players, in a squads which keeps finishing in the top half 😉 Or maybe, just maybe, many people completely overestimate exactly what a top half Championship player looks like? We do have a number that are. Tronstad, Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Batth, Beck and perhaps Dolan are. Point being, I would consider Ohashi to be a useful player to have around but I dont think hes quite shown enough to be confident in being our main man. Quote
KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: We do have a number that are. Tronstad, Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Batth, Beck and perhaps Dolan are. Point being, I would consider Ohashi to be a useful player to have around but I dont think hes quite shown enough to be confident in being our main man. To be clear, I wasn't having a go at you 99, It was just a thought that occurred as I read your post I am just pretty sure that every player in the squad has been described by at least someone on here as being not good enough. Even in the past couple of years, that accusation has been levelled to Tronstad, Dolan, Travis, Hyam, Brittain, Szmodics  Edited 12 hours ago by KentExile Quote
lraC Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: The amount of players Rovers have who are not top half players (Ohashi, Pickering, Dolan, Pears, Hedges, (even Tronstad according to one), have been regular starters in squads which keeps finishing in the top half 😉 Or maybe, just maybe, many people completely overestimate exactly what a top half Championship player looks like? I think we can safely say that the Tronstad one has now been put to bed. He was, in my opinion, deservedly voted player of the season and I know we all see things differently, but I think even the opinion of the poster who said what he did about him, would perhaps concede, so of it was either tongue in cheek, or a touch harsh. 1 Quote
DutchRover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Few links to Dan Gore from Man Utd in last few days, likely nothing in it. Talented by all accounts but also an injury nightmare which I don't know if I'd want to risk. Maybe we can offer a swap for Pears.... Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, KentExile said: The amount of players Rovers have who are not top half players (Ohashi, Pickering, Dolan, Pears, Hedges, (even Tronstad according to one), have been regular starters in squads which keeps finishing in the top half 😉 Or maybe, just maybe, many people completely overestimate exactly what a top half Championship player looks like? Yeah a great question is who do many consider top half players out of a squad that has finished just outside the top six in three of the last four seasons? The sentiment on this board I would only be confident that Tronstad (Rev aside!) and maybe Brittain would get the nod from those who post regularly. Which obviously statistically doesn't make any sense. Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, roversfan99 said: We do have a number that are. Tronstad, Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Batth, Beck and perhaps Dolan are. Point being, I would consider Ohashi to be a useful player to have around but I dont think hes quite shown enough to be confident in being our main man. Beck has missed a lot of the season... so that leaves 5 names definitely top half. There are a lot of people on here who would say (and do say every time we don't win a game) that Travis, Hyam and Dolan are not good enough. Quote
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