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Posted
9 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

From memory we were looking at a RB for cover/competition with Brittain. Should we land one, I think JRC is gone.

Trav and Tronstadt a negative pairing 🫀

Posted
15 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You are the one who will use this signing as 'evidence' of us investing and spending on the squad and relying on the online reported fee for this.

It's blatantly obvious that we aren't spending Β£2 million or anywhere near the that on this guy yet they've already succeeded in convincing some that we are throwing money around.Β 

And you will used every opportunity to downplay any investment in the squad.Β 

2 journalists have had reported a similar fee so why not trust them? They have inside information whilst don't.

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Posted

We need to get moving on a centre half or two, as things stand we only have Hyam and Carter who are senior players with Wharton still not being ready.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

More people are obsess about the fee actually is then the quality of the player.Β 

Ismael wants pace, ability to get box to box quickly and younger players can do this. Ismael spoke about profiling the right players and what they bring.Β 

Nzonzi was a great find by Rovers and his team got relegated from Ligue 2 or Samba from Hertha Berlin B team. We tried it with Telalovic but it didn't work out but pleased he is doing so well over there.Β 

Any thoughts on the difference between then and now, those doing the spotting?Β 

Maybe, just maybe, that might have a y'know influence on the liklihood of these signings being successful.Β 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, ... said:

Trav and Tronstadt a negative pairing 🫀

When you need one of those two to get up with and beyond the strikers occasionally- he’s right. Having said that Tronstad was getting more forward towards the end of last season.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

Any thoughts on the difference between then and now, those doing the spotting?Β 

Maybe, just maybe, that might have a y'know influence on the liklihood of these signings being successful.Β 

And the 'spotting' of the likes of Nzonzi and Samba 20 or so years ago, would most likely have been done the old school way.

ie watching the players in person, rather than sat behind a desk.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

When you need one of those two to get up with and beyond the strikers occasionally- he’s right. Having said that Tronstad was getting more forward towards the end of last season.

That was my thinking sonny was pushed a little further up but got the angle I guess

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I think its fair to have question marks over both, based on what we can ascertain.

Tavares has very little senior experience and struggled to maintain a place in a mid table Portugese league team. He made 15 league starts, completed only 2 full games and theyve sold him a year after joining.

We need attacking players who can help us to score more goals, on the face of it, De Neve doesnt have a track record that suggests he can help to rectify that. A versatile left sided player who was often played at full back, and has minimal goals or assists. Belgian journalists seem a bit surprised that a Championship side has come in for him. He has more senior experience than Tavares but doesnt seem to have pulled up any trees.

Equally, to say they "are not good enough" seems totally unfounded and unfair.Β 

They are both quite young, and it may depend on what role they are expected to play. Seems a huge step up based on what they have done before to expect them to be regular starters on paper. We need to either keep hold of our key core of players or directly replace any departures.Β 

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Would think we've probably given Moreirense their money back and promised more if he comes come and we win the PL and Champions' League!!!Β  Perhaps this guy is our Leopold Wahlstedt!!!

Chaddy you just don't get it do you?Β  They have more than likely been spun a huge dose of bullsh1t and 'favours' have been called in!Β  Why not trust sporting journalists - are you kidding everyone on here!?!?!?

From what I have read about this lad and seen in the odd clip he is NOT THE BOX TO BOX Ismael wants and will be a piss poor replacement for either Travis or Tronstadt if and when they leave.

De Neve and Sid, IMO, are not ready or good enough for the Championship.Β  Carry on with signing players like this whilst losing the likes of Brittain, Batth, Travis and Tronstad and we will be done for by Christmas.

Except in his interview when asked what kind of midfield player he was, he described himself as a box to box player. So who do we believe ? Tough one thatΒ 

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Posted

It feels comparatively proactive to have 2 signings in at this point but considering Ismael wanted most business done by pre season, we are still well off.

At right back, we need to sort 2 things out. At least one signing, and a conclusion to the Brittain deal, in which case potentially a replacement.

At centre back, we still need 2.

In central midfield, we need to sort out 2 contracts or replace.Β 

We need an attacking midfielder and a right winger, and we need another forward.

So 6 signings, or maybe up to 9 if players leave.Β 

Goalkeeper, left back and left wing are the positions we have sorted and even then there are questions.

Also a bit of trimming with Buckley and JRC becoming surplus to requirements.

The inability to even offer contracts never mind sort them either way before this summer is a real issue.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Would think we've probably given Moreirense their money back and promised more if he comes come and we win the PL and Champions' League!!!Β  Perhaps this guy is our Leopold Wahlstedt!!!

Chaddy you just don't get it do you?Β  They have more than likely been spun a huge dose of bullsh1t and 'favours' have been called in!Β  Why not trust sporting journalists - are you kidding everyone on here!?!?!?

From what I have read about this lad and seen in the odd clip he is NOT THE BOX TO BOX Ismael wants and will be a piss poor replacement for either Travis or Tronstadt if and when they leave.

De Neve and Sid, IMO, are not ready or good enough for the Championship.Β  Carry on with signing players like this whilst losing the likes of Brittain, Batth, Travis and Tronstad and we will be done for by Christmas.

What are you basing your opinion on I’d ask? YouTube highlights?

and do you think those players listed we lose them all before Xmas - highly unlikelyΒ 

Posted
9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

It feels comparatively proactive to have 2 signings in at this point but considering Ismael wanted most business done by pre season, we are still well off.

At right back, we need to sort 2 things out. At least one signing, and a conclusion to the Brittain deal, in which case potentially a replacement.

At centre back, we still need 2.

In central midfield, we need to sort out 2 contracts or replace.Β 

We need an attacking midfielder and a right winger, and we need another forward.

So 6 signings, or maybe up to 9 if players leave.Β 

Goalkeeper, left back and left wing are the positions we have sorted and even then there are questions.

Also a bit of trimming with Buckley and JRC becoming surplus to requirements.

The inability to even offer contracts never mind sort them either way before this summer is a real issue.

You're talking numbers there--I'm worried about quality.

Doesn't matter how any players we sign if they aren't as good as the ones we are selling/giving away.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, ... said:

That was my thinking sonny was pushed a little further up but got the angle I guess

Somebody needed to. There were times last season when we had 7 ( six outfield players plus the keeper ) that never got into the last third of the pitch. That leaves 4 players to make and score goals. A big ask, especially with the level of players we have.

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Posted
45 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

We need to get moving on a centre half or two, as things stand we only have Hyam and Carter who are senior players with Wharton still not being ready.

Made this point several weeks ago that we only had 2 fit centre backs. So probably need 2 centre backs in not one if Batth doesn't re-sign here

32 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

And the 'spotting' of the likes of Nzonzi and Samba 20 or so years ago, would most likely have been done the old school way.

ie watching the players in person, rather than sat behind a desk.

Most teams scout from Video using Wyscout to find players nowhere days cos you don't need at the game, travel arrangements and other costs involved now watch videos at home or at Brockhall.Β 

https://www.hudl.com/en_gb/products/wyscout

17 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Except in his interview when asked what kind of midfield player he was, he described himself as a box to box player. So who do we believe ? Tough one thatΒ 

Exactly. Gestede said we wanted a box to box player and he says he is

14 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

No he isn't but he won't be playing CM or in any attacking roles. So RB is the only place left for him.

I watched JRC come through from under 21 to the first team and he was attacking wide player. In the right team I would play him from the right side of the attack with an overlapping player

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Posted

A little overlooked factor on Tavares is that he should settle in comfortably hopefully courtesy of Ribiero (both portuguese) and create a bit of a bond going forward

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Posted
20 minutes ago, ... said:

A little overlooked factor on Tavares is that he should settle in comfortably hopefully courtesy of Ribiero (both portuguese) and create a bit of a bond going forward

Might be wrong but he's pretty much grown in entirely in EnglandΒ 

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Posted
2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

We need to get moving on a centre half or two, as things stand we only have Hyam and Carter who are senior players with Wharton still not being ready.

And Wharton shouldn’t be any more than a squad player either.Β 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

Might be wrong but he's pretty much grown in entirely in EnglandΒ 

No I think you're right, speaks better Englandish than me

Posted
2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Tavares has very little senior experience and struggled to maintain a place in a mid table Portugese league team. He made 15 league starts, completed only 2 full games and theyve sold him a year after joining.

He did however make 29 appearances total, and was subbed onto the pitch every single time he was on the bench. It suggests strongly that he and another player were being intentionally rotated to keep them fresh. It's not as damning as you make out.

And if we really have paid 2 million Euros (dubious obviously but let's assume a second since it's the only fee reported) of course they've sold him a year after joining - that's 5 times what they paid. Knowing our lot, there is no way in hell our opening bid was anything like that. Which means they held out for a much bigger fee and weren't that keen to sell him.

Posted
1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Mohamed Guindo apparently next.

Know very little.

Source?

21 yr old forward, his team have just been promoted to the Belgian top tier. Scored 8 in 26 last season.

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