2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

15 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But either way.

My point was about numbers. We wanted 6 or 7 players BEFORE we knew that Batth and Weimann were leaving. Ismael also said last week or the week before that this summer was going to become more of an overhaul

So the intention was 6 or 7 AND to keep Batth and Weimann. So that was the size of squad he wanted. So surely to keep that same size of squad, considering that was the plan, we now need 8 or 9. Basic maths, nothing more, nothing less. What has changed? Why is he happy with 2 less than planned? Will the budget not stretch?

Not interested in spiel about how aligned they all are, how Ismael wants to play a certain style or whatever other soundbites you would like to parrot. Was purely about the numbers in the squad.

5 is about right for what we need. And would take us to 9 which considering that Ismael said 6 or 7 BEFORE Weimann, Batth and even Dolan left, the former 2 unexpectedly.

Can take Leonard off the list. No good naming people who not only arent of sufficient quality but clearly cant stay fit. 

If we only signed one attacker, ie a right winger. For a manager who demands high physical output, likes making mass subs so 7 or 8 attacking players may be used per game. Having only 8 including Tyjon is not sufficient and once 2 or 3 get injured will mean he cannot fully do what he wants to do.

Maybe Ismael knew Batth and Weimann weren't staying despite being offered new contracts to stay here. 

Another 3 feel right. Centre back, right winger and I would prefer another striker but Ismael wants another centre midfielder. Its gives you 26 man squad and 2 players every position and 2 extra centre midfielders and extra centre back plus extra keeper. Isn't that big enough. 

He clearly feels he has enough up front and maybe he sees Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard as his 3 strikers. 

Zero evidence that the bid won't stretch and Ismael was straight to the point and very clear. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, Jimmy612 said:

This is the same player you wanted to offer £15K P/W to, and saw him as an integral player in our team.  What's changed?

I was fan of Dolan and yes I would offer that sort of contracts on those terms to keep him but hopefully we can fill that. I think goig forward he would be intergral part of our plans and team but if we lost Travis or Tronstad or Brittain that would be big hole. I don't think Dolan leaving is at the same level 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

There is a chance that its not just a case of the manager saying he is happy with those 2. There is also a chance that the budget wont stretch that far and other positions have taken priority. We definitely did want one:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25055914.gestede-reveals-five-blackburn-summer-transfer-priorities/

"We want some power up front to challenge the two strikers we have, we will do some business."

I dont see what you have seen from Gueye to suggest that he could score that number of goals, maybe Ohashi. The problem is though as we found last season, when Ohashi isnt playing we cant continue to play the same way as a team when Gueye plays as he is totally different.

what evidence of the budget won't stretch? cos you aren't the amount of signings so making arguments up to suit it. 

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But equally, you dont want to be too reliant on them to the point where a couple of injuries in certain positions and they are all needed together.

We dont know how ready they are in terms of a footballing perspective of being able to play Championship football but moreso how they could cope physically if needed to play consecutive games.

Also, if we bank on more than a couple coming through at once, its unrealistic. They wont all be ready at the same time.

bringing through 3 or 4 young players whilst having a 25/26 man squad and 2 players for every position and extra keeper, extra defender and total of 6 centre midfielders surely that is big enough squad? a

[RevidgeBlue]

Not sure why some people are saying we dont need another striker. Tyjon is obviously a completely unknown variable but if he doesn't particularly come off we're only an injury or loss of form to Ohashi or Gueye from being  completely bereft up front.

I think we need at least one and ideally two more strikers as well as obviously needing a decent right winger to replace Dolan. Whether we get them or not remains to be seen as obviously decent forward players tend to be the ones that cost the most money.

When Woodrow and Dennis came in in January I thought that was at least then the right number of attacking options albeit they predictably turned out to be shite as for one thing they weren't even match fit.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe Ismael knew Batth and Weimann weren't staying despite being offered new contracts to stay here. 

Another 3 feel right. Centre back, right winger and I would prefer another striker but Ismael wants another centre midfielder. Its gives you 26 man squad and 2 players every position and 2 extra centre midfielders and extra centre back plus extra keeper. Isn't that big enough. 

He clearly feels he has enough up front and maybe he sees Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard as his 3 strikers. 

Zero evidence that the bid won't stretch and Ismael was straight to the point and very clear. 

Another 3 would make it a 24 man squad  wouldn't it? Unless I'm forgetting someone?

Last year squad of 25 minus the 5 loanees, Weiman, Baath, Dolan and JRC.= 9 out. 

Wharton would come back into the squad after a year out, plus the 4 new signings. = 5 in. 

3 new players would take it to 24.

 

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Another 3 would make it a 24 man squad  wouldn't it? Unless I'm forgetting someone?

Last year squad of 25 minus the 5 loanees, Weiman, Baath, Dolan and JRC.= 9 out. 

Wharton would come back into the squad after a year out, plus the 4 new signings. = 5 in. 

3 new players would take it to 24.

 

 

 

Current squad

Keepers - Toth Pears Michalski 

RB - Brittain Alebiosu

CB - Hyam Carter Wharton Mcloughlin 

LB - Pickering Ribeiro 

CM - Travis Tronstad Forshaw Montgomery Tavares 

RW - Hedges

AM - Cantwell Tyjon 

LW - Kargbo De Neve 

CF - Gueye Ohashi Leonard 

[philipl]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Current squad

Keepers - Toth Pears Michalski 

RB - Brittain Alebiosu

CB - Hyam Carter Wharton Mcloughlin 

LB - Pickering Ribeiro 

CM - Travis Tronstad Forshaw Montgomery Tavares 

RW - Hedges

AM - Cantwell Tyjon 

LW - Kargbo De Neve 

CF - Gueye Ohashi Leonard 

But Michalski, Montgomery, Tyjon and Leonard are home grown youngsters so don't count towards the 25.

Add Buckley

Back to transfers, any truth that Brittain left Spain a day ahead of the other players?

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Current squad

Keepers - Toth Pears Michalski 

RB - Brittain Alebiosu

CB - Hyam Carter Wharton Mcloughlin 

LB - Pickering Ribeiro 

CM - Travis Tronstad Forshaw Montgomery Tavares 

RW - Hedges

AM - Cantwell Tyjon 

LW - Kargbo De Neve 

CF - Gueye Ohashi Leonard 

Leonard/Tyjon/Michalski/Montgomery wouldn't need to be registered as part of the squad as they are 21 or under.  They would also have been available to supplement the 25 man squad we had last year.  

Lets put it this way.  We are well down in over 21 players at the moment. 

[roversfan99]

29 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe Ismael knew Batth and Weimann weren't staying despite being offered new contracts to stay here. 

Another 3 feel right. Centre back, right winger and I would prefer another striker but Ismael wants another centre midfielder. Its gives you 26 man squad and 2 players every position and 2 extra centre midfielders and extra centre back plus extra keeper. Isn't that big enough. 

He clearly feels he has enough up front and maybe he sees Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard as his 3 strikers. 

Zero evidence that the bid won't stretch and Ismael was straight to the point and very clear. 

Another 3 would "feel right" to you because thats how many we seemingly plan to get.

I never said that the budget definitely wont stretch. What I am saying is that is isnt an unlimited pot of money, maybe the striker plan has been shelved because there isnt enough resources to fill all positions adequately so we are having to prioritise.

He doesnt "clearly" feel its enough. We dont know what he feels truly. There could be a number of reasons why we may not get a striker. Or indeed, maybe a striker will be within the 3 we plan to get.

You keep throwing in names like Leonard who is not with the first team and is never fit and a young 3rd choice goalkeeper to increase the numbers.

I personally think we need more than 3, I think 4 or 5. I fear that we may again have issues with squad depth as the season goes on. I also think that based on what was said before the window, that we arent going to get everything that we planned to. That could be for a number of reasons, I am merely speculating, it doesnt automatically mean that the manager will be 100% totally satisfied by what happens in this window. I suspect very few managers are when the window closes as they would have liked one or two more but resources etc wont allow or deals dont happen for whatever reason.

[Andy]

4 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I'll counter that and ask what Cantwell brings? What's he good at? 

Doesn't score, doesn't assist, slow, struggles to cross, can't hit a dead ball.

All whilst being out alleged top earner.

He's our best player, so being the top earner isn't really any kind of revelation.

He's been the first to admit that his output wasn't good enough last season, but he's started this pre-season very well and his qualities are pretty clear to see, if you watch our games.

He'll be huge for us this season.

[RevidgeBlue]

30 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Leonard/Tyjon/Michalski/Montgomery wouldn't need to be registered as part of the squad as they are 21 or under.  They would also have been available to supplement the 25 man squad we had last year.  

Lets put it this way.  We are well down in over 21 players at the moment. 

So at the moment adding in Buckley and discounting them, we have 21 registerable  players with, in all probability, Brittain set to leave?

Out of the ones who dont need to be registered, you'd probably expect Leonard to go out on loan as well.

Very thin in certain areas, predominantly in attacking ones.

Edited 12 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So at the moment adding in Buckley and discounting them, we have 21 registerable  players with, in all probability, Brittain set to leave?

Out of the ones who dont need to be registered, you'd probably expect Leonard to go out on loan as well.

Very thin in certain areas, predominantly in attacking ones.

Yes. Exactly. The expensive areas. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Wing Wizard Windy Miller

[B16Rover]

 

Stolen from a Facebook group 

Anyone know now you share Facebook group links or are we not allowed? 

 

[BankEnd Rover]

13 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

 

Stolen from a Facebook group 

Anyone know now you share Facebook group links or are we not allowed? 

 

Can't see any reports at all on this, can you send the link? He's got a class name btw. 

[Feed the Yak]

Looks like he could play the Cantwell role and cover for the strikers. Left footed so maybe can play the Hedges role too.

Edited 11 hours ago by Feed the Yak

[simongarnerisgod]

if he costs more than half a million then he is`nt coming here😥

[roversfan99]

Seems to have been the top scorer in the Conference League last season.

Surely no way we could afford him and seems a very weak link.

[B16Rover]

28 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Can't see any reports at all on this, can you send the link? He's got a class name btw. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1731002142005736/

 

Sorry not sure if I've done that properly 

[bluebruce]

27 minutes ago, Feed the Yak said:

Looks like he could play the Cantwell role and cover for the strikers. Left footed so maybe can play the Hedges role too.

Now that's a reel I like the look of. Strength, technique, dribbling, quite quick, good vision. Bit of exciting flair in there too. Loves a back heel and knows how to use it.

If he's also top scorer in the Conference League as stated, I think we can file this under 'I wish'.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

He's our best player, so being the top earner isn't really any kind of revelation.

Cantwell? He may be gifted but at this stage that's a strong claim. Wasn't even one of our top 4 players last season.

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

He's our best player, so being the top earner isn't really any kind of revelation.

He's been the first to admit that his output wasn't good enough last season, but he's started this pre-season very well and his qualities are pretty clear to see, if you watch our games.

He'll be huge for us this season.

As @bluebruce says above, I’m not sure how anyone can have watched last season and say Cantwell is our best player. He’s our best known,  but was far from our best.

Thats not me criticising him as such, as I feel he’s got an important part to play. But watching him, you can say why he’s ended up here and isn’t on any top clubs radar.

[rovers11]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Current squad

Keepers - Toth Pears Michalski 

RB - Brittain Alebiosu

CB - Hyam Carter Wharton Mcloughlin 

LB - Pickering Ribeiro 

CM - Travis Tronstad Forshaw Montgomery Tavares 

RW - Hedges

AM - Cantwell Tyjon 

LW - Kargbo De Neve 

CF - Gueye Ohashi Leonard 

Currently strong in defensive areas (but with Brittain set to leave), strong CM (but with Trav likely to leave), very weak attacking options. 

De Neve, Tyjon, and Kargbo totally unproven at this level, Ohashi is good, Gueye a handful but very erratic and will never be a regular goal scorer, Leonard an injury write off, Cantwell is talented, and Hedges is simply not good enough.

We've lost 5 attacking players over the summer - Dolan, Weimann, Dennis, Cozier-Duberry, and Woodrow (albeit the latter 3 completely ineffective and offered nothing). We absolutely need 3 more attacking additions - RW, ST, AM.

Presume Baradji will replace Trav, and then it's 3 additions on top of that. 4 if and when Brittain goes.

[rovers11]

50 minutes ago, Feed the Yak said:

Looks like he could play the Cantwell role and cover for the strikers. Left footed so maybe can play the Hedges role too.

Absolutely no chance. Been linked with Monaco for €5m. Not a chance he's coming here.

[MarkBRFC]

2 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Leonard/Tyjon/Michalski/Montgomery wouldn't need to be registered as part of the squad as they are 21 or under.  They would also have been available to supplement the 25 man squad we had last year.  

Lets put it this way.  We are well down in over 21 players at the moment. 

Is this definitely correct?

I was under the impression that anyone 21 and over had to be registered, which would include Leonard and Montgomery.

[B16Rover]

56 minutes ago, Feed the Yak said:

Looks like he could play the Cantwell role and cover for the strikers. Left footed so maybe can play the Hedges role too.

This has all the makings of a YouTube player.  Some shocking first touches tied into some great skilful turns.  Some great finishes matched with some toe bungs.  

If we end up with the Aldi version (although this guy's never been sold for any actual money) then a strong mobile striker with a yard of pace ticks my boxes 

[M_B]

59 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Can't see any reports at all on this, can you send the link? He's got a class name btw. 

Best order some more U's in.