2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Preston have bid £3 million for Kone at Wycombe according to the BBC. No major sales and they can bid 3 times what we will be bidding for players 

 

Preston was rejected. Did Wycombe in January turned down 8m for Kone from Luton? 

Do we know what we been bidding and on who? 

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

Given all transfer fees pass through the EFLs accounts I’m sure they’d notice if a club who can’t pay fees tried to do so…

It's about the terms in the contracts like wages, etc. 

Not transfer fess

[islander200]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Preston was rejected. Did Wycombe in January turned down 8m for Kone from Luton? 

Do we know what we been bidding and on who? 

It's about the terms in the contracts like wages, etc. 

Not transfer fess

I know what we have spent in previous seasons , I know we have been buying from relegated overseas clubs and they don't appear to be expensive deals to me 

So I don't have to have insider information or be Sherlock Holmes to work out that we ain't going to be spending anything like 3 million on a single player this window or any under this ownership going off the last few years at least they had the occasional splash of the cash in the past 

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Preston was rejected. Did Wycombe in January turned down 8m for Kone from Luton? 

Do we know what we been bidding and on who? 

It's about the terms in the contracts like wages, etc. 

Not transfer fess

Doesn’t apply to fee restrictions (the clue is in the name).

[roversfan99]

22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have done a squad plan for you and I said which position I want to strengthen. 

Ismael wants another centre midfielder whilst I don't want another but another striker. Which is DIFFERENT to what Ismael wants. 

 

Does the transfer window end in just over a week? 

The time to judge whether we are weaker or stronger is by performances, plenty of people wrote us off last season and look how badly wrong they were

when Gestede said that comment I took it as the wide areas aswell not just striker area

 

There is a lot of pre-emptive justifying of what might happen and excuses being thrown out.

Gestede specifically said that we wanted a forward "to compete with Ohashi and Gueye." Theres no way that he meant anything other than a striker. He also said that the only right winger we have is Dolan, and I am not for one minute having this theory that they knew months in advance that Weimann who they offered a deal too was going to go elsewhere. So to me, based on my interpretation of what was said. Thats ACD that needed replacing, De Neve with Hedges moving to the other side has done that. So that leaves a right winger to replace Dolan, a number 10 to replace Weimann and a striker which was an additional requirement correctly highlighted, who can fill the spot of the 2 clowns, Dennis and Woodrow.

We also always have this moving of the goalposts regarding timing of deals. 90% before pre season was the target. Next weekend might not be the end of the window so I appreciate that not all deals will be done, but its the start of the season, its not like an irrelevant marker. I would really like to see our attack improved by then.

[Ghost7]

The amount of money being spent by Rovers is pathetic.

[roversfan99]

54 minutes ago, islander200 said:

It's not a fixation but it's a pointer towards him being appreciated by the wider football community not just his own club.

Daft you don't think it is.Playing for the national team at any age group gives bigger exposure than not being involved. He was playing in the under 21 tournament in the summer that scouts from all the major clubs and leagues would have been taking a major interest ffs.Poor players that have gone on to do nothing in their careers have played for underage teams nationally have I ever said they didn't. And if Whsrton was being appreciated as a world class talent outside of our fanbase and club(i include myself thinking he was )when with us you can guarantee he would have been making the under 21s and bigger clubs than Crystal Palace would have been in for him whether it was January or not

I'm not comparing Wharton and Hackney, 1 of them got a move to the Premier league the other is moving to a championship club willing to pay more than prem clubs for him 

I get in terms of perception from fans, who might not overly pay attention to the Championship. But not professional scouts who will surely look beyond things like under 21 involvements.

Ultimatelty, I dont think I am in a minority in thinking that selling him so soon, desperate for money, selling him in January and bundling him out the door all logically meant that we received less in the market than had all of those factors not been in play, massively weakening our bargaining power.

[Mercer]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Preston was rejected. Did Wycombe in January turned down 8m for Kone from Luton? 

Do we know what we been bidding and on who? 

It's about the terms in the contracts like wages, etc. 

Not transfer fess

Buttons and boxes of crips I guess !!!

Sagnan, Nade, Kapuadi, De Keersmaecker, Mannsverk, Baradji, Lewis Miller, Mumda etc all linked BUT ALL FAILURES TO LAND.

I think the fans are being conned!

Instead we get Forshaw, De Neve, Tavares and Alebiosu.

Think Rovers are laughing at likes of you Chaddy and you just can't see it.

[NeilInBristol]

1 minute ago, Mercer said:

Buttons and boxes of crips I guess !!!

 

🤣

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I get in terms of perception from fans, who might not overly pay attention to the Championship. But not professional scouts who will surely look beyond things like under 21 involvements.

Ultimatelty, I dont think I am in a minority in thinking that selling him so soon, desperate for money, selling him in January and bundling him out the door all logically meant that we received less in the market than had all of those factors not been in play, massively weakening our bargaining power.

Not disagreeing we sold from a very weak position and yes in the summer we Probably would have got a few million more but it would not have been one of the big boys buying Palace or a similar standing club would have bought him .If a big club was going to take him it would have been in that window because he was going in the summer regardless the other best plsyer getting sold Szmodic we wouldn't have built around them so fan or not he wouldn't have seen progression or a chance of Premier league here 

We can all agree that Palace got a bargain but the interest from the bigger clubs wasn't there at 18 million yet people think clubs would have paid 30 million as a championship player playing for a team who were losing most weeks , it would be lower to mid teams in the prem doing the bidding in the summer for him and it wouldn't have been much more than what we got 

The comparisons with Hackney are a bit daft with it being used as a stick to say the people with a similar opinion to myself are wrong as Gibson is selling to a championship rival and there have been reports it's 15 million rising to 20 but even if it is £20 he is going to Ipswich because no Club in the prem will pay that for him 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Not disagreeing we sold from a very weak position and yes in the summer we Probably would have got a few million more but it would not have been one of the big boys buying Palace or a similar standing club would have bought him .If a big club was going to take him it would have been in that window because he was going in the summer regardless the other best plsyer getting sold Szmodic we wouldn't have built around them so fan or not he wouldn't have seen progression or a chance of Premier league here 

We can all agree that Palace got a bargain but the interest from the bigger clubs wasn't there at 18 million yet people think clubs would have paid 30 million as a championship player playing for a team who were losing most weeks , it would be lower to mid teams in the prem doing the bidding in the summer for him and it wouldn't have been much more than what we got 

The comparisons with Hackney are a bit daft with it being used as a stick to say the people with a similar opinion to myself are wrong as Gibson is selling to a championship rival and there have been reports it's 15 million rising to 20 but even if it is £20 he is going to Ipswich because no Club in the prem will pay that for him 

Comparisons with anyone are flawed, different players in different circumstances. Ages, types of player, contract length, financial situation at selling club etc.

I just look at the circumstances mentioned. Every single one went against us getting market value so logic says that we must have got below it. Its hard to put an exact amount on how much we should have got.

[JHRover]

49 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Preston have bid £3 million for Kone at Wycombe according to the BBC. No major sales and they can bid 3 times what we will be bidding for players 

I wouldn't be surprised if the hold up on further spending is them wanting to know what's happening with Brittain, not because any of his potential fee would be added to the budget though, it will be because we will have to stretch the already shitty budget to bringing a right back in as if you take what Rudy said as truth the budget is what it is 

Teams like Preston and Millwall have been comfortably outstripping us on fees for the last few years now since the latest Venky cuts were imposed mid-summer under JDT.

Blows a massive hole in the claims that we need to charge what we do for season tickets to ensure we have a competitive budget / FFP nonsense. 

We've got away with it up to now thanks to the legacy of a good squad left by Mowbray and Broughton/JDT and good management by Eustace. I have a feeling that in the not-too-distant future that will end, probably just about after they've seen off the remaining solid core in Travis, Tronstad and Brittain. 

[JHRover]

Where has Arnor Sigurdsson's wage saving gone?

Come to think of it where have the savings made on Batth, Dolan, Weimann, Beck, McFadzean, Markanday, JRC gone?

Surely nobody in their right mind believes that the signings of Tavares, De Neve, Alibiousu and McLoughlin have gone anywhere near to covering those savings?

I could - almost - accept it if the savings had been used to ensure Trav, Tron, Hyam, Carter or Brittain had got proper new contracts, but no, not a single one of those has been sorted, surprise surprise.

So once again a good window if the focus is on avoiding new contracts, cutting back the wage bill and saving money. 

Not sure it has been a good window if the focus is on putting a decent side out or protecting our rapidly dwindling assets.

What ever happened to Nixon's cock and bull about Brittain 'imminently' signing his new deal?

[Waggy76]

6 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Teams like Preston and Millwall have been comfortably outstripping us on fees for the last few years now since the latest Venky cuts were imposed mid-summer under JDT.

Blows a massive hole in the claims that we need to charge what we do for season tickets to ensure we have a competitive budget / FFP nonsense. 

We've got away with it up to now thanks to the legacy of a good squad left by Mowbray and Broughton/JDT and good management by Eustace. I have a feeling that in the not-too-distant future that will end, probably just about after they've seen off the remaining solid core in Travis, Tronstad and Brittain. 

I suspect at least one those 3 players, will leave on the last day of the transfer window. 

 

[LDRover]

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Where has Arnor Sigurdsson's wage saving gone?

Come to think of it where have the savings made on Batth, Dolan, Weimann, Beck, McFadzean, Markanday, JRC gone?

Surely nobody in their right mind believes that the signings of Tavares, De Neve, Alibiousu and McLoughlin have gone anywhere near to covering those savings?

I could - almost - accept it if the savings had been used to ensure Trav, Tron, Hyam, Carter or Brittain had got proper new contracts, but no, not a single one of those has been sorted, surprise surprise.

So once again a good window if the focus is on avoiding new contracts, cutting back the wage bill and saving money. 

Not sure it has been a good window if the focus is on putting a decent side out or protecting our rapidly dwindling assets.

What ever happened to Nixon's cock and bull about Brittain 'imminently' signing his new deal?

File it alongside Junior Hoilett nearly signing a deal extension and Ronaldinho, Riquelme and Beckham almost signing for us.

[chaddyrovers]

49 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Doesn’t apply to fee restrictions (the clue is in the name).

https://eflanalysis.com/opinion/acun-ilicali-will-be-fuming-over-efl-decision-after-hull-city-agreed-contract-with-111-goal-target/

[chaddyrovers]

42 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Sagnan, Nade, Kapuadi, De Keersmaecker, Mannsverk, Baradji, Lewis Miller, Mumda etc all linked BUT ALL FAILURES TO LAND.

Is that linked? Links means nothing. Rovers will have scouted alot of players hence we seen linked. 

Question is how many have we bid for and they gone elsewhere..

Bali Mumda was linked to replace Brittain but given he is still here hence we haven't moved for Mumba

42 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Think Rovers are laughing at likes of you Chaddy and you just can't see it.

Is the really best you got Mercer. Give it Mercer was all this crap. 

[47er]

6 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

We are in managed decline and there’s nothing positive to draw from Venkys reign….but I still can’t get comfortable with anyone be “sure” that we’ve had a bad window. And just because you don’t know a player, and he doesn’t cost millions doesn’t mean he’s rubbish.

It’s different if the club hadn’t signed anyone or if they were signing players we’d been watching for years and could say unequivocally that they were crap!? But I’d put money that most of us haven’t seen any of them play before, including McLaughlin. So I just don’t see how anyone can be so sure that we’ve had a bad window.

You're dancing on a pin there! But I suppose we'll find out what sort of a window its been soon enough!

[OldEwoodBlue]

400 pages

Should get to 700 by the end of the window, about nothing.

Managed decline continues.

Venkys out is the only thing that matters.

[Theaxe15]

3 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

400 pages

Should get to 700 by the end of the window, about nothing.

Managed decline continues.

Venkys out is the only thing that matters.

Not a metric

[London blue]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Is that linked? Links means nothing. Rovers will have scouted alot of players hence we seen linked. 

Question is how many have we bid for and they gone elsewhere..

Bali Mumda was linked to replace Brittain but given he is still here hence we haven't moved for Mumba

Is the really best you got Mercer. Give it Mercer was all this crap. 

Honestly Chaddy you can bore off fella.

I'm sick and tired of reading you defending club decisions and deriding those who have moved on to better themselves. 

You're a patsy, and a willing one at that. 

[Southside Rover]

400 pages of excitement...

[JCRovers]

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

Where has Arnor Sigurdsson's wage saving gone?

Come to think of it where have the savings made on Batth, Dolan, Weimann, Beck, McFadzean, Markanday, JRC gone?

Surely nobody in their right mind believes that the signings of Tavares, De Neve, Alibiousu and McLoughlin have gone anywhere near to covering those savings?

I could - almost - accept it if the savings had been used to ensure Trav, Tron, Hyam, Carter or Brittain had got proper new contracts, but no, not a single one of those has been sorted, surprise surprise.

So once again a good window if the focus is on avoiding new contracts, cutting back the wage bill and saving money. 

Not sure it has been a good window if the focus is on putting a decent side out or protecting our rapidly dwindling assets.

What ever happened to Nixon's cock and bull about Brittain 'imminently' signing his new deal?

Well, I took some time and made a few calculations on this.

All figures below are fetched from Transfermarkt and Capology. Dolan's wage is unknown but I assumed it was around 3 K / week as reported by others on this forum. Other assumption(s) is that all figures fetched from these sources are somewhat accurate and that we covered 100 % of the wages for all five loans we had last season:

Outgoings at the start of season:

Weimann     17 500 / week
Batth            10 000 / week
JRC                 8 500 / week
Dolan             3 000 / week (?)
Dennis          28 000 / week
Woodrow     20 000 / week
Sigurdsson   15 000 / week
Sanderson    10 000 / week
ACD                7 000 / week
Beck                3 500 / week
McFadzean     3 500 / week
Gilsenan         1 500 / week
Markanday     2 000 / week

Total:          £129 500 / week

129 500 x 52 = £6 734 000 per year to be spent on salaries and transfer fees
I'm discounting the transfer fee received for JRC (£750 000) since 0 % of it is going into transfer budget as per Gestede's previous comment.

Ingoings so far:

Tavares - reported fee: £1,72 million (2 million euros), alleged salary: £10 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Moreirense)
De Neve - reported fee: £650 000 (750 000 euros), alleged salary: £5 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Kortrijk)
Alebiosu- reported fee: £500 000 (576 000 euros), alleged salary: £2 500 / week (based on his previous salary at Kortrijk)
McLoughlin - reported fee: £500 000 (575 000 euros), alleged salary: £10 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Hull)

Total: 
Transfer fees: £3 370 000
Salaries (per year, assuming all four signings have the same salary as last season): 27 500 x 52 = £1 430 000

£3 370 000 (fees) + £1 430 000 (salaries) = £4 800 000

Outgoings - Ingoings = £1 934 000 left to be spent on fees and salaries. 

This amount is equivalent to signing a player on a free for roughly £37 000 per week OR paying £1.5 million in transfer fee and offer a salary of roughly £8 300 per week (Baradji anyone?).

So, not much left in the coffers i guess?
 

EDIT: one caveat to all this could be, of course, that we're paying the transfer fees in instalments. But I don't think the owners would like taking on more debt for relatively 'insignificant' transfers (or maybe they are 'significant' just like with Kargbo?). 

Edited 18 hours ago by JCRovers

[USABlue]

11 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

The cynic in me says, Venkys are making sure that relegation will happen this season. 

Eustace and Szmodics have kept their plans on hold for 2 seasons. 

I am with you on that Waggy.  Been saying that for a while.  Let's see if Ismael does well then leaves.  These chicken and football team killers need to be gone.  My thoughts are they will be ok with us holding our own in the 3rd division.

[USABlue]

8 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Same injury as Ryan Nelsen before Spurs signed him? 

Classic that was.  How long was he out for us only to play for spurs 1st game after they signed him.  Selling Samba after our windows closed.  Kean.

[USABlue]

8 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he`s obviously not injured as he played 70 minutes on sunday,so i only only assume,with considerable experience of how venkys go about their football business,that we won`t pay what yverdon want,so try to save face and paint him as injured,appease the fans and all that

Surely if we made up an injury the player would have some form of come back towards us, is this what you are hinting at?  A new stint since we wore out the fax machine excuse.