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31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Surely we can't need to sell Travis.Β 

We need all of them - out season fell apart last year when our starting CMs got injured.Β 

We want rid, hence not offering him a new deal, as confirmed multiple times by the player himself.Β 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, roverandout said:

People don't want to hear the truth that Mowbray had no ambition for promotion. He was happy to pick up his wages and play down any talk of going up. He was perfect for venkys until they got sick of him

Makes no sense, thats why.

Came out with some crap which is just typical managing expectations spiel in the main.

The idea that he didnt want promotion didnt make sense on any level. Illogical, conspiracy theorist nonsense. It would have been a massive pay rise and a huge boost to his CV. Just wasnt capable which is a seperate matter. Hence why in that last season he got publically pissed off with the owners for doing what they do best to every manager we have and totally cut away any prospect of promotion.

Either way, the way his name triggers some all these years after is really unhealthy.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Then sell him.

He's not a good enough footballer to be effective if his head has been turned. Nor is he going to be an effective captain if he wants away.

He hasn't been offered a contract. So any head turning or wanting away has been caused by Rovers making it clear he won't be getting a suitable offer to stay here.Β 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I agree, however, the squad is currently dangerously short of players.

Look I hate the two stooges as much as the next guy, but they and Ismael clearly recognise we need to put a squad together.

They won't reinforce in January if we're doing surprisingly well, but they are keen on staying in the division so will spend the bare minimum to do so (which we currently are).

I hope they do recognise it, I really do.

Everything seems like a cost cutting exercise with these lot though.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

I expect Axel to be announced today. I think Axel and Miller will be very shrewd signings and our best two this summer so far. If Baradji ever gets done, which I think he will eventually, then that's a trio of smart signings. Aggressive, physical players who have the right mindset and physical traits for the Championship.Β 

I think Tavares is also a shrewd signing and McLaughlin is solid.

De Neve I'm not convinced about but, equally, don't know too much about him. Doesn't look to have the physicality for the Championship and not known for his technical ability either. Purely workrate and versatility; perhaps a better version of Chris Taylor. A decent squad player but the issue for us is that he looks like he's going to be a starter.

Alebiosu is someone who I think will be out of his depth at this level and will be shipped out within 12 months but I could be wrong!

I agree on all this...De Neve will struggle I think, seems to press well and has a good engine but I think that's about it. Hopefully I'm wrong but says it all when fans Kortrijk were scratching theirs heads on the move.Β 
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Posted
19 minutes ago, KentExile said:

That would probably be about a 60% reduction of wages for our starting midfield, Pasha will be rubbing his hands with glee at the thought

Trouble with all this cost-cutting is that once the cuts are in place, there is generally no further room for manouvre, and there are generally only two ways out a lowest cost base approach (spend more, or stop doing business). It is a move straight out of the Michael Porter play book for generic strategy - but unfortunately, the approach is based on manufacturing and process industry, not something amorphous and dynamic like a professional football club. I suspect that Rudy has read the 60 second MBA or some similar book (I say 'read' when perhaps it is more likely he's listened to sound bites / TeD Talks on his car ICE when driving between latte emporia).

These aren't business people, people. These are amateurish, desperate, misinformed charlatans masquerading as football club officials. Out with the lot of them.

VENKYS PSEUDO BUSINESS CHARLATANS AND PATSIES OUT!!

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

Trouble with all this cost-cutting is that once the cuts are in place, there is generally no further room for manouvre, and there are generally only two ways out a lowest cost base approach (spend more, or stop doing business). It is a move straight out of the Michael Porter play book for generic strategy - but unfortunately, the approach is based on manufacturing and process industry, not something amorphous and dynamic like a professional football club. I suspect that Rudy has read the 60 second MBA or some similar book (I say 'read' when perhaps it is more likely he's listened to sound bites / TeD Talks on his car ICE when driving between latte emporia).

These aren't business people, people. These are amateurish, desperate, misinformed charlatans masquerading as football club officials. Out with the lot of them.

VENKYS PSEUDO BUSINESS CHARLATANS AND PATSIES OUT!!

We also have to consider that the idiots that own & run Rovers are not the same people who founded & built up Venkys in the first place.Β  They inherited it from their parents

The V H Group is controlled by the family of Dr. B. V. Rao. His daughter, Anuradha Desai, is serving as group chairperson since his death in 1996.[2] His sons B Balaji Rao and Venkatesh Rao sit on the board of the group's companies

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Posted

Regarding Trav, I suspect he isn't going to sign a contract and is stringing us along to go to Derby on a bigger wage in a year under a gentleman's agreement. If so, get him sold now. I know he's the club captain, I know things are shit at the club but just take the money and get a few more bodies in the door.Β 

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You can't have your captain not being 100% commited, players will pick up on it.Β 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

They won't reinforce in January if we're doing surprisingly well, but they are keen on staying in the division so will spend the bare minimum to do so (which we currently are).

Well they're not doing a very good job of it thus far. Even if the signings who've come in are up to the sort of standard required we appear to be assembling a squad potentially completely overloaded with midfielders and barely any striking options/complete lack of goals in it.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Neal said:

Regarding Trav, I suspect he isn't going to sign a contract and is stringing us along to go to Derby on a bigger wage in a year under a gentleman's agreement. If so, get him sold now. I know he's the club captain, I know things are shit at the club but just take the money and get a few more bodies in the door.Β 

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You can't have your captain not being 100% commited, players will pick up on it.Β 

Who says he isn't committed?

Posted
10 minutes ago, Neal said:

Regarding Trav, I suspect he isn't going to sign a contract and is stringing us along to go to Derby on a bigger wage in a year under a gentleman's agreement. If so, get him sold now. I know he's the club captain, I know things are shit at the club but just take the money and get a few more bodies in the door.Β 

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You can't have your captain not being 100% commited, players will pick up on it.Β 

So either not being offered a new contract or one which doesn't reflect anything like your true worth makes you not committed? Weird take.

If there's one player I'd want alongside me in the trenches when the chips are down it's Travis.

I do now expect him to be sold though as the cost cutting continues unabated.Β 

Posted (edited)

I think anybody who isn’t going to be 100% committed out on the pitch needs to go.

However I think Travis is the sort of player that once he steps over the white line all other issues go out of his head and he just wants to win. It’s a personal thing that’s born in you. Not everybody has it, but I think he has.

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Posted

Miller is the one that I think the fans will take to. Seems a proper character and hard as nails. Can see him picking up a few cards too.Β 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So either not being offered a new contract or one which doesn't reflect anything like your true worth makes you not committed? Weird take.

If there's one player I'd want alongside me in the trenches when the chips are down it's Travis.

I do now expect him to be sold though as the cost cutting continues unabated.Β 

We all know that.Β 

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On your first part, my post was a guess at what was possibly/likely happening. He like many of them liked playing under Eustace. As it's a job like any other, you're going to want to work for the managers you enjoy working for. I don't think playing for Rovers has got anything to do with it tbh, he'll have seen all his mates get moves and will want to jump ship aswell probably. This is all guesswork of course but what I'm saying is him moving has an air of inevitability about it. If the discussions haven't progressed because he's going to join Derby in a year, sell now and have a better shot at replacing him. That's all I was saying, surely not hard to understand.Β 

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I'd love him to re-sign but I know and you know that isn't going to happen.Β 

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Rovers still want to add a right-winger and cover at centre-back before the transfer window ends. That is assuming there are no further unplanned exits, such as Callum Brittain's move to Middlesbrough.

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Though a dip into the loan market has not been ruled out, Rovers are keen to sign players permanently and develop them. With the club keen to create assets, owning the players if of importance to ensure they're not growing other teams' players.

From the LT but surely we need a striker as well!!

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