Popular Post Jimmy612 Posted 4 hours ago Popular Post Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, alcd said: Hyam joined in 2022 not 2021 as Jackson states. He could at least get his facts right. He then says the deal offerd is 2 years when actually it's only 1year from the expiry of the current deal in 2026. So hang on.... If I'm reading this right. They've offered one of our senior players exactly the same money, for what is essentially an extra 12-months on his current deal. I bet him and his agent were flabbergasted. Who in their right mind would sign that, when in 12 months time he'll very comfortably get a move to another championship club, probably on improved terms as there would be no transfer fee. That's not a contract offer, that's just idiocy, and an insult. Edited 4 hours ago by Jimmy612 14 Quote
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Popular Post RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Popular Post Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Devon Rover said: It is all pretty depressing and embarrassing, isn't it? I thought the club had reached the absolute nadir of lack of class and professionalism with the non-transfers back along. Then it got worse with the handling of the Eustace departure, followed now by our own manager touting out our first team players for sale in post-match interviews alongside, wholly unsurprising, suggestions of the occasional contract offer to a player being based on not even an inflationary pay-rise. We all really need to stop blaming Eustace, out of contract players, Hyam being apparently easy to upgrade on, referees, etc. Smell the coffee - there are no upgrades going on here, on Dolan, Hyam, Travis, anyone. There is no agenda against our club except in our own boardroom and in Pune. Just an accelerating stripping down of our playing squad towards wholly consisting of unprepared academy players and cheap cast-offs from the dwindling pool of "smaller" clubs. This ends in relegation, nothing else. This situation is getting worse and worse and I honestly don't see an end to it. But, for me, my pride in supporting this club is fading away. I just can't align myself with, nor fund in any way, this total shambles of an ownership and their utter lack of competence, respect and class. I'm trying to hold on to what remains of my love for Blackburn Rovers. But I'm struggling to see it, anymore. Venkys have taken it away for me and for my son. Great post. It's heartbreaking to see numerous longstanding supporters sadly reach this conclusion. In recent years I keep saying that you think you've seen it all but they somehow manage to surpass themselves time and time again. First of all going back a few years the proposed scam about converting part of Brockhall into housing with detailed housing plans and a vague promise of replacement with some new all singing all dancing facility about which there was no detail whatsoever. Then the failure to tie down our better players at the time Lenihan/Rothwell/ Nyambe/ Brereton etc Then the successive January transfer window debacle with high value incoming deals being scuppered at the last minute by alleged administrative errors or "a failure to press send". Outgoing deals meanwhile completely unaffected. On the Mcguire deal Broughton renegotiates a loan with a view on horrendously bad terms we'd never meet after the original permanent deal is pulled. Once that loan deal collapses as well we issue a promise to go back in the following window to rectify the situation and of course that's the last we hear of that. Surely nothing could get more embarrassing than that could it? Buckle up! Two successive head Coaches who have done really well force their way out of the Club the second taking the absolutely unprecedented step of leaving a Club in the play off positions for one in the relegation zone because he felt the long term prospects were better there. Then it seems we're set to lose at least six of that side that did so well last season plus a useful squad member because we won't meet their financial demands. The Head Coach seemingly attempting to throw said outgoing players under the bus shortly after apparently wrongly claiming another coach at the Club was leaving when it was not the case. It's like watching a car crash unfurl in front of you which escalates and causes untold additional collateral damage and there's nothing whatsoever you can do about it. Apologies if on wrong thread. 13 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 4 hours ago Backroom Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Miller11 said: Gestede was always a Suhail man, but he further ingratiated himself with the signings of Ohashi and Gueye. Yuki took a pay cut to come to England. Gueye came from the notoriously poorly paid Belgian League. Between Suhail and Gestede they have now decided that there is no need to pay more than 10k a week for a player with those two as their proof. Laughable. I love Big Mak's personality but more often than not he looks totally out of his depth in this league. Yuki has done OK but he's not an Arma, Szmodics, or even BBD. Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I'm seeing comments on X " no player is bigger than the club"...Pasha is pissing himself - What a fanbase we have. 7 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 48 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: So hang on.... If I'm reading this right. They've offered one of our senior players exactly the same money, for what is essentially an extra 12-months on his current deal. I bet him and his agent were flabbergasted. Who in their right mind would sign that, when in 12 months time he'll very comfortably get a move to another championship club, probably on improved terms as there would be no transfer fee. That's not a contract offer, that's just idiocy, and an insult. You have to offer a new deal on at least the same money or the option to extend and kick the can down the road for another 12 months isn't valid I dont think I used to joke with the likes of Dolan that any new contract offer would probably be whatever he was previously on plus a fiver. With this news about Hyam, maybe it wasn't even that! Edit: The bit about Hyam relates to triggering a contract extension sorry. Once those options have expired we probably think it's acceptable to offer players new deals on the same terms as they've always been on as well. Didn't someone post on here once that the turnover of staff at the Club at all levels was so high because Suhail had created a culture at the Club where staff were rarely rewarded with salary increases or promotion and didn't feel valued? Edited 3 hours ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
alexanders Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Yes, it is common and generally expected for wages in India to be increased periodically, though the specific amount can vary. Salary increases are typically influenced by factors like performance, inflation, and market conditions.  I tried to find a cultural logic behind the behavior Edited 3 hours ago by alexanders 2 Quote
Crimpshrine Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Great post. It's heartbreaking to see numerous longstanding supporters sadly reach this conclusion. In recent years I keep saying that you think you've seen it all but they somehow manage to surpass themselves time and time again. First of all going back a few years the proposed scam about converting part of Brockhall into housing with detailed housing plans and a vague promise of replacement with some new all singing all dancing facility about which there was no detail whatsoever. Then the failure to tie down our better players at the time Lenihan/Rothwell/ Nyambe/ Brereton etc Then the successive January transfer window debacle with high value incoming deals being scuppered at the last minute by alleged administrative errors or "a failure to press send". Outgoing deals meanwhile completely unaffected. On the Mcguire deal Broughton renegotiates a loan with a view on horrendously bad terms we'd never meet after the original permanent deal is pulled. Once that loan deal collapses as well we issue a promise to go back in the following window to rectify the situation and of course that's the last we hear of that. Surely nothing could get more embarrassing than that could it? Buckle up! Two successive head Coaches who have done really well force their way out of the Club the second taking the absolutely unprecedented step of leaving a Club in the play off positions for one in the relegation zone because he felt the long term prospects were better there. Then it seems we're set to lose at least six of that side that did so well last season plus a useful squad member because we won't meet their financial demands. The Head Coach seemingly attempting to throw said outgoing players under the bus shortly after apparently wrongly claiming another coach at the Club was leaving when it was not the case. It's like watching a car crash unfurl in front of you which escalates and causes untold additional collateral damage and there's nothing whatsoever you can do about it. Apologies if on wrong thread. A good potted history but you missed the most disgusting, brazen and obviously crooked event of the whole 15 years. A professional contract for Myles Anderson ( son of you know who ) who eventually found his level at Heybridge Swifts! They must have been laughing all the way to the bank at our expense.  4 Quote
roverandout Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: Good lord. Rats deserting a sinking ship. The ship has already sunk and the survivors are being picked up by a bigger better and more luxurious vessels Edited 3 hours ago by roverandout 3 Quote
garner1971 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago The only positive I can take from Trav being forced out is that he may have the courage to speak honestly and openly about the shit-show behind the scenes. Yes, I know I may be being naive about this. But, if anyone has the balls, it’s Travis. I’m clinging on to the hope that this one is actually a step too far and it brings down the bastards that are strangling our club to death. We have to get Venkys, Pasha, Gestede and the whole lot of them out now. Or, I fear it will be too late. 7 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On all available evidence, we looked fucked. 7 Quote
alexanders Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago He probably had a "shut up" clause in his contract signed in 2022. 2 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: So hang on.... If I'm reading this right. They've offered one of our senior players exactly the same money, for what is essentially an extra 12-months on his current deal. I bet him and his agent were flabbergasted. Who in their right mind would sign that, when in 12 months time he'll very comfortably get a move to another championship club, probably on improved terms as there would be no transfer fee. That's not a contract offer, that's just idiocy, and an insult. There's a risk involved here as well, playing 46 Championship matches plus cup football and training sessions with no job security past the next (less than) twelve months. Hyam is a standard level Championship defender who just had a great season compared to the one before. Adjusted for inflation and put a promotion bonus clause in there and it shouldn't be too hard to sign. Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago No sight of a right winger then? But Hyam now openly for sale. Quelle surprise. 4 1 Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: On all available evidence, we looked fucked. It's all relative i guess. It isn't great and the culture has changed dramatically. But we could have our stand closed and our players not paid for months, so our key players tear our contracts up and go to Wrexham et al on a free leaving our time full of academy players under 21 who play in the Northern Counties league. 3 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago So that's our Captain and Vice Captain about to jump the sinking ship. "Get behind the lads, FFS." 5 Quote
Miller11 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago It would probably only take a 500k bid for us to sell Tronstad too Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: On all available evidence, we looked fucked. If you're saying that..... we must be. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, bigbrandjohn said: It's all relative i guess. It isn't great and the culture has changed dramatically. But we could have our stand closed and our players not paid for months, so our key players tear our contracts up and go to Wrexham et al on a free leaving our time full of academy players under 21 who play in the Northern Counties league. That is a terrible situation that Wednesday find themselves in, however, it just means that they are closer to the light at the end of the tunnel and being rid of their terrible owner Our owners, by doing bare minimum whilst clinging on for dear life, will drag us down for years yet  1 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said: A good potted history but you missed the most disgusting, brazen and obviously crooked event of the whole 15 years. A professional contract for Myles Anderson ( son of you know who ) who eventually found his level at Heybridge Swifts! They must have been laughing all the way to the bank at our expense.  This above,the Portuguese player's,Kean and his bonuses for relegation,Coyle...the list seems endless. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said: It's all relative i guess. It isn't great and the culture has changed dramatically. But we could have our stand closed and our players not paid for months, so our key players tear our contracts up and go to Wrexham et al on a free leaving our time full of academy players under 21 who play in the Northern Counties league. Oh great. We aren't Sheffield Wednesday. Yippee. That said, their players showed a lot more heart and spirit against Leicester than we did against West Brom. 2 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said: It's all relative i guess. It isn't great and the culture has changed dramatically. But we could have our stand closed and our players not paid for months, so our key players tear our contracts up and go to Wrexham et al on a free leaving our time full of academy players under 21 who play in the Northern Counties league. ....But we could be Bury etc,etc,etc. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said: A good potted history but you missed the most disgusting, brazen and obviously crooked event of the whole 15 years. A professional contract for Myles Anderson ( son of you know who ) who eventually found his level at Heybridge Swifts! They must have been laughing all the way to the bank at our expense.  I was concentrating on more recent events. I forgot having to sell a generational talent at a knockdown fee (Wharton) to keep the lights on. Quote
SpaceBarSlam Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago We might have to wait a few years for players to retire and be doing the podcast rounds (as has happened in recent years with regard's to Coyle's time), but very, very intrigued to see what stories come out about this period at the club. The whole setup is completely rotten with not even a glimmer of optimism right now. 3 Quote
alexanders Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago https://eflanalysis.com/news/truth-behind-lewis-travis-and-blackburn-rovers-fallout-emerges-as-derby-county-circle/ Yet, the situation involving Travis will be on the minds of everyone at Pride Park, especially after Ismael told the media that the midfielder wants to leave Blackburn, with the Lancashire Telegraph reporting that the 27-year-old’s camp were not happy with those comments. He wanted to play against West Brom last weekend, even though Derby were interested in him, and he is keen to ensure that he gives his all until he does depart – however, he does not want to exit ‘through the back door’. The report also states that the Rams have made an offer that is ‘life-changing’ and with just a year left on his contract at Ewood Park, he is keen for a new challenge but the situation must be handled correctly. Quote
alexanders Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago After some poor results, Rovers will likely be active in the transfer window before it shuts. One of their reported targets, Nectarios Triantis, could now be available with just a couple of weeks remaining in the window. According to Football Insider, Sunderland are ready to let Triantis leave the club, whether on loan or permanently. Triantis was given an opportunity to impress during pre-season by boss Regis Le Bris. ADVERTISEMENT ´ However, after key signings, both at centre-back and in midfield, Triantis does not have an immediate future with the Black Cats. Triantis had a brilliant loan spell in Scotland last season with Hibernian. Derby County have been heavily linked with Triantis too this summer, but former Rovers boss John Eustace has quashed those rumours. MLS side Minnesota United are also keen, while his former side Hibernian have been priced out of a deal. Quote
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