Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Neal said: Likeable managers but very streaky and inconsistent which cost us in the end. 7th or 21st... Still achieved nothing. No prizes for losers. I'm not convinced about this fella but fuck it, he/they've got a plan... Let's find out how good or bad it is. Two things I’ve liked about VI has been his reactions to Brittain’s and Travis’s self-serving toy-throwing. Like JDT, he comes across as someone you can’t fuck around with. Both of them intense, fit as fleas, played for clubs Trav can’t even dream of. His managerial career also reminds me of Souness, ie extremely checkered before landing here. I’m hoping it’s another case of right man, right time. As you say, let’s find out. And if the place is so toxic, why was 20-year Bucko sobbing his heart out? I can’t imagine the new signings are giving any thought to how Trav felt: they’d never heard of him, he’s won nowt, move on old man, I’m having your shirt. 3 1 Quote
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Leonard Venkhater Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, JBiz said: I agree, however JDT openly gave up and continued to play the same football with players not up to it. At least Eustace made us harder to beat. You understand that you can offer someone a contract but not enough for them to want to sign it, right? Then spin that thought around, we might want to keep Lewis Travis but we might also think he’s not worth 20k a week. So, it's chants of "Snake" and "One greedy bastard", when they come for the anniversary game? Quote
rigger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: So, it's chants of "Snake" and "One greedy bastard", when they come for the anniversary game? Hello hello Rovers rejects, Rovers rejects. 2 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Goozburger said: On the contrary, that's one of the best posts I've read that exactly mirrors my thoughts. Hats off to you, sir. 👏 As a lowly supporter, and as I've grown older, I've started to worry less about what I can't control. I can't control who owns Rovers. I can't control who plays for us. I can't control who leaves, nor why they leave. I follow Rovers to enjoy football, and no matter what is going on around the club when it isn't match-day, I still thoroughly enjoy match days. This will sound contradictory given that I'm sitting here bang in between two Rovers match days writing this, but I often wonder if I'm the only one who finds following Rovers much more enjoyable when I don't digest the drama off the pitch, true or otherwise, and stick primarily to match days and a few beers. You probably won't like this post as it's me but if you're meandering towards the point where you're just happy to savour the match day experience regardless of what happens on the pitch - is there much point in it any longer? Surely it's all about winning and losing and trying to achieve success no matter what day of the week it is. Not having a go at you, I know there are a lot of supporters who seem to have that mindset. it's just a rhetorical/philosophical question. Quote
JBiz Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: So, it's chants of "Snake" and "One greedy bastard", when they come for the anniversary game? No, I’d give Trav a round of applause personally but that’s not to say he’s a legend / icon / historic figure for us. Eustace personally though, he can fuck off. 2 Quote
rigger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: So, it's chants of "Snake" and "One greedy bastard", when they come for the anniversary game? To tell the truth, I am not bothered who we play as long as we win. 1 Quote
Goozburger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You probably won't like this post as it's me but if you're meandering towards the point where you're just happy to savour the match day experience regardless of what happens on the pitch - is there much point in it any longer? Surely it's all about winning and losing and trying to achieve success no matter what day of the week it is. I'm not meandering towards savouring the match day experience. I'm already there and have been for decades! I'm the same as anybody else when it comes to feeling happy or down depending on the result. But I don't treat following Rovers to the same conditional level that you do. They're not my business venture where I must dissect everything, make cynical conclusions based on hearsay, and get engrossed by the resulting negativity. I would say "what's the point?" is more a question for you than me. 1 Quote
Darwen Rover 007 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I really couldn't care less for any player that no longer plays for us. Any rumours of any more incomings? Personal opinion is VI is exactly what we needed, he's trying to make us a more progressive team, he cant buy champ proven as outside our budget, he has to look for foreign bargains.. I think current team (Rudy and VI) are doing ok.. ultimately time will tell, but I woild rather live a life with some risk than trying to squeeze existing lemons within an inch of the lives. 4 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Goozburger said: I'm not meandering towards savouring the match day experience. I'm already there and have been for decades! I'm the same as anybody else when it comes to feeling happy or down depending on the result. But I don't treat following Rovers to the same conditional level that you do. They're not my business venture where I must dissect everything, make cynical conclusions based on hearsay, and get engrossed by the resulting negativity. I would say "what's the point?" is more a question for you than me. Touche' ! Fair enough. If things were going well/ everyone was happy with the ownership, you probably wouldn't hear a dicky bird (relatively speaking) from anyone between games. Oh to be in that position. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Neal said: He was worth keeping, I agree but I'm not bothered he's left either. I just don't care. I do t care if any of them leave. The only one I can think of that hurt in recent memory is Adam Wharton. Rest, couldn't give a shite. That's because he's the only one in recent memory that has been good enough to care about. 2 Quote
47er Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, norwichblue said: Anyone who posts bullshit cryptic things like that on social media doesn’t deserve a role at a professional football club in my opinion. 20+ years of experience or not, it’s just not helpful to anyone. Just comes across like she’s bitter. We’ve been stuck in the doldrums for ages. Looks like we’re finally mixing things up and trying something new rather than doing the same old shit every year. Glad we’re shaking things up to be honest. And anyone stuck in a perpetual pity party should be let go. perhaps she has something to be bitter about? Quote
47er Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, rigger said: To tell the truth, I am not bothered who we play as long as we win. depending on the Division! Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, aletheia said: So Pasha next then. Jolly good. Mm, I never said that. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, 47er said: perhaps she has something to be bitter about? Then she should tell us 2 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: That's because he's the only one in recent memory that has been good enough to care about. David Raya?? Absolutely awful decision to flog him for what we did. I loved him and said across multiple platforms I thought he'd go to the top and play for Spain and a top team.. loaned in Walton as his replacement.. I used to love watching Raya warm up- so agile and amazing reflexes.. I'll never forget sitting their at ewood watching Walton warm up in a preseason friendly or training session at ewood and thinking 'Fuck me, what have we done!' Travis is a cracking player but he's not out player any more.. I certainly wouldn't advocate us spending 3m of our budget on him that's for sure.. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Neal said: Perhaps this is a bit of a incoherent, distasteful vent but here goes... Call me a cold hearted fucker but I literally couldn't care less about anyone leaving, like literally no feelings whatsoever and why should I? What have they ever achieved? A promotion? A playoff? A cup? Christ... Even beating Burnley??? They're nothing box standard championship players. Maybe it's just a case of getting older but as football has become even more of a money centric business... I just care about results and performances, the players can play wherever they want... And they will. Most of us will never realise the sort of money they make so I personally couldn't give a shite about their feelings when they're off to play for even more money. Those in charge (weather we like them or not) obviously think that there is better talent out there and that they're replaceable. So good luck to them, I hope they're right. I'll rightly give them their credit of they're right and their criticism if they're wrong. All these players are seemingly moaning about us not showing ambition (true) but where have they gone? To clubs who finished lower than us for more money. So let's cut the shit, it's really about money. No words can convince me that they care about this club, they care about their working environment, not the town & the people, they can't ever understand. After 14 years of dog shit in the championship, I'm somewhat apathetic and open to people coming in with fresh ideas and taking a risk. The club won't ever mean as much to them as it does to me, it's a job to them, it's my life to me... So anyone who wants out can fuck off and the players that have come in, when better money comes along can fuck off aswell. Win football games. 10/10 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, superniko said: Dack is the only one for me really since the end of the Big Sam era. He played the biggest part in us not rotting away in league 1 and was a joy to watch at times as well. He was the one player with the X factor. He could do things with a football that I could never do. So sad the injuries robbed him of what might have been. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, JBiz said: Never won enough though. They also made plenty of excuses, JDT especially. We are never ever going to win enough with the present owners, are we! Theres no ambition! The club, for the last 15 nearly 16 years is set up to FAIL. 1 Quote
DeeCee Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Is it me or do I detect a swing towards RG's and VI's management strategy? 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Not a single sniff of a transfer rumour today... Quote
Waggy76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Is it me or do I detect a swing towards RG's and VI's management strategy? They are part of the real problem! Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, JBiz said: I agree, however JDT openly gave up and continued to play the same football with players not up to it. At least Eustace made us harder to beat. You understand that you can offer someone a contract but not enough for them to want to sign it, right? Then spin that thought around, we might want to keep Lewis Travis but we might also think he’s not worth 20k a week. But my initial point was to dismiss the idea that we have discarded Travis (and the other departing players) because he has been left behind in our pursuit for better. We have successfully sorted one proper contract in 2 years. We arent willing to pay competitive Championship wages. Its not as if that £20k is there but we have decided to utilise it elsewhere. We have gone for players that will require much less in wages. We dont have to pretend that he is worse than he is because he has left either. 1 Quote
JBiz Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: We are never ever going to win enough with the present owners, are we! Theres no ambition! The club, for the last 15 nearly 16 years is set up to FAIL. I agree with this wholeheartedly but I don’t think there’s any point in supporting Rovers anymore if all thoughts related to the club cannot be separated to the depressing ownership scenario. I don’t need a daily reminder for how bad they’ve been either. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 20 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Is it me or do I detect a swing towards RG's and VI's management strategy? Just a bit, last Friday it was all doom and gloom. Rudy and Suhail were the devils' incarnate. One really good win and one promising looking signing on the right wing later and all of a sudden Travis was always crap and this new strategy might actually be the way to go etc. etc. And the plastic snake manufacturers will no doubt have a beano in November. I mean, we dont even know if Travis's replacement, Baradji, is fit , or out for a lengthy period and if the latter, how long for. The fickleness of the football fan. It works both ways. 1 Quote
Ricky Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago It’s interesting that even after Morsy left in the summer Ipswich didn’t make a move for Travis. You would have thought he may have been on their radar if he was rated during the loan spell there. 1 Quote
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