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17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not sure about this one. He seems to have really struggled in the Belgian league and scored far fewer than Gueye who hasnt proved to be good enough. His record in general doesnt suggest a goalscorer.

It feels like a punt although for the fees we are able to offer, I appreciate that it is particularly difficult to sign a striker compared to other positions as that position is the hardest and dearest to sign.

There are things to cling on to. Neither his record for 1 season in Denmark nor his international record are brilliant but they are certainly much healthier. And he is also still quite young so fair to assume hes not at at his peak, and looking at videos, he seems to have attributes we can work with. His finishes arent scruffy (like the video of Gueye's were) and he strikes a ball cleanly, and also physically seems quite strong and he isnt slow.

Who is dad is is fairly irrelevant.

And to clarify, I am NOT writing him off. I am sure this post will attract people calling me out as negative as you arent allowed to point out concerns. Im just less convinced at this stage than I was when we signed some of the other players that we have. Morishita for example, another I had not seen before, I think theres far more on paper to be excited about.

Think you're being a bit harsh on his record for Iceland and in Denmark. It's true I can't say they're 'brilliant' as such, but your choice of words seems to imply they're a bit naff. Perhaps it's not meant to come across that way.

But his record in Denmark is almost a goal every 2 games. Which suggests a 20+ goal return over a 46 game season, which is very good. His record for Iceland would translate to about 12 goals a season, which is still fairly solid and what, 3 goals better than any of our players did last season?ย 

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Just now, bluebruce said:

Think you're being a bit harsh on his record for Iceland and in Denmark. It's true I can't say they're 'brilliant' as such, but your choice of words seems to imply they're a bit naff. Perhaps it's not meant to come across that way.

But his record in Denmark is almost a goal every 2 games. Which suggests a 20+ goal return over a 46 game season, which is very good. His record for Iceland would translate to about 12 goals a season, which is still fairly solid and what, 3 goals better than any of our players did last season?ย 

Yeah I dont think they are a "bit naff". Its hard to know how to read into his Iceland stats because aside from Turkey, his goals predominantly come against countries ranging from poor to out and out minnows. But then again, he plays for a poor country. He scored an excellent finish against Scotland.

His goal record in Denmark is pretty good to be fair. Although it was one season and followed by one when he failed to make the step up into the Belgian league. But again, it doesnt seem like he was a guaranteed starter

I dont think his record overall is overly encouraging, the signing definitely strikes me as a punt, which is the market especially with a striker that we are entering at this level of fee. I would rather have someone like this than no one at all, which is what I feared would happen, especially as we only have 1 striker capable at this level.

He is only quite young too, so hopefully he can really push on now, assuming he joins.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

From this Scout Report I would say he's exactly what we've been missing for years. Maybe even since Rhodes left

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Bit harsh on Danny Graham haha.ย 

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Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too).

How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again?

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Eddie, Iโ€™m not really disagreeing with your post above.

Iโ€™m not keen on revisionism โ€“this stuff about the old playing guard (and managers) were never going to take us anywhere. I just think that is harsh. They needed backing.

On the new excitement โ€“I get it: you just knew previously we wouldnโ€™t make it, but we also knew that it wasnโ€™t entirely down to the lads on the pitch โ€“shenanigans off the pitch were responsible.

I donโ€™t like the idea that the new plan is a footballing masterstroke โ€“it is financially driven.

I donโ€™t like the idea that if we donโ€™t get in the top 6/promotion, then it doesnโ€™t matter because you have to give the new plan time or itโ€™s not fair to judge after one season (how long before we judge?) โ€“ that would just be as you say same old but on a slimmer budget and workforce and with Pasha more firmly in control.ย 

Ultimately, what is it that will rid us of these owners? I donโ€™t think we will get promotion with this new model (thereโ€™s a stick to beat me with if it happens). So that means same old but with higher turnover of players (agents lovely jubbly). I know some would take relegation if it got rid of the owners.

On the new sense of excitement. I get that too. I will certainly be going to the game with a sense of intrigue and interest. On a match to match basis, we all like to see exciting football, wins, goals etc.ย 

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Well in terms of the numbers of players signed this window has truly surpassed what I thought we could feasibly do in a summer.

Too early to say if theyre good players but we've bought the right positions anyway.

Maybe one more midfielder to round things off.

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8 minutes ago, aletheia said:

Eddie, Iโ€™m not really disagreeing with your post above.

Iโ€™m not keen on revisionism โ€“this stuff about the old playing guard (and managers) were never going to take us anywhere. I just think that is harsh. They needed backing.

On the new excitement โ€“I get it: you just knew previously we wouldnโ€™t make it, but we also knew that it wasnโ€™t entirely down to the lads on the pitch โ€“shenanigans off the pitch were responsible.

I donโ€™t like the idea that the new plan is a footballing masterstroke โ€“it is financially driven.

I donโ€™t like the idea that if we donโ€™t get in the top 6/promotion, then it doesnโ€™t matter because you have to give the new plan time or itโ€™s not fair to judge after one season (how long before we judge?) โ€“ that would just be as you say same old but on a slimmer budget and workforce and with Pasha more firmly in control.ย 

Ultimately, what is it that will rid us of these owners? I donโ€™t think we will get promotion with this new model (thereโ€™s a stick to beat me with if it happens). So that means same old but with higher turnover of players (agents lovely jubbly). I know some would take relegation if it got rid of the owners.

On the new sense of excitement. I get that too. I will certainly be going to the game with a sense of intrigue and interest. On a match to match basis, we all like to see exciting football, wins, goals etc.ย 

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For me itโ€™s quite simple-you donโ€™t overhaul a whole squad with the roll of the dice without tested Championship players being part of core changes. To say we are

going into the unknown is an understatement l-exiting maybe.

Theres excitement and thereโ€™s completely unknown! For me thereโ€™s too much sweeping changes and not just players

but club staff and that sets alarm bells. Those

that had any affiliation Rovers and could questions behind the scenes issues arenโ€™t there. Who would now question

the hierarchy. Too many factors that arenโ€™t being questioned for my liking but maybe im

in the minority!

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Posted
41 minutes ago, superniko said:

Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too).

How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again?

Can we honestly move on with this?ย 

We don't know the full terms of those deals and that transfer was also 18 months ago. Inflation alone makes 15m now 16m, never mind the exponential inflation in football transfers and wages.

Will this club be forever defined by the decision to sell a player?ย 

Should Everton fans still be going on about how theyย onlyย got 27m for Rooney. Southamptonย onlyย got 10m for Bale. Celticย onlyย 13m for van Dijk.ย 

Honestly, the list of players who should have gone for more is so incredibly long, is this club really going to be defined by ONE PLAYER that we sold.ย 

We've also fleeced some clubs in the past when both buying and selling. Why don't we speak about that more?ย 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, mark Hayhurst said:

For me itโ€™s quite simple-you donโ€™t overhaul a whole squad with the roll of the dice without tested Championship players being part of core changes. To say we are going into the unknown is an understatement l-exiting maybe.

Theres excitement and thereโ€™s completely unknown! For me thereโ€™s too much sweeping changes and not just players but club staff and that sets alarm bells. Those that had any affiliation Rovers and could questions behind the scenes issues arenโ€™t there. Who would now question the hierarchy. Too many factors that arenโ€™t being questioned for my liking but maybe im in the minority!

ย 

I don't think you are. I think there's a *lot* of nervousness about letting Travis, Brittain and Batth go, in particular.ย 

ย 

I think there's some excitement over the last day or two now we're at the 'getting new players through the door' stage, but if you were to ask most of us if we could send some of our new signings back, and get back the core of the squad that finished 7th on longer contracts, I suspect most wouldn't think twice.ย 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Can we honestly move on with this?ย 

We don't know the full terms of those deals and that transfer was also 18 months ago. Inflation alone makes 15m now 16m, never mind the exponential inflation in football transfers and wages.

Will this club be forever defined by the decision to sell a player?ย 

Should Everton fans still be going on about how theyย onlyย got 27m for Rooney. Southamptonย onlyย got 10m for Bale. Celticย onlyย 13m for van Dijk.ย 

Honestly, the list of players who should have gone for more is so incredibly long, is this club really going to be defined by ONE PLAYER that we sold.ย 

We've also fleeced some clubs in the past when both buying and selling. Why don't we speak about that more?ย 

โ€œInflation alone makes 15m now 16mโ€ then add a load of examples from 10+ years ago ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Posted
1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not sure about this one. He seems to have really struggled in the Belgian league and scored far fewer than Gueye who hasnt proved to be good enough. His record in general doesnt suggest a goalscorer.

It feels like a punt although for the fees we are able to offer, I appreciate that it is particularly difficult to sign a striker compared to other positions as that position is the hardest and dearest to sign.

There are things to cling on to. Neither his record for 1 season in Denmark nor his international record are brilliant but they are certainly much healthier. And he is also still quite young so fair to assume hes not at at his peak, and looking at videos, he seems to have attributes we can work with. His finishes arent scruffy (like the video of Gueye's were) and he strikes a ball cleanly, and also physically seems quite strong and he isnt slow.

Who is dad is is fairly irrelevant.

And to clarify, I am NOT writing him off. I am sure this post will attract people calling me out as negative as you arent allowed to point out concerns. Im just less convinced at this stage than I was when we signed some of the other players that we have. Morishita for example, another I had not seen before, I think theres far more on paper to be excited about.

You do realise people call you out as negative because every post is negative, right?

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Posted
1 hour ago, joey_big_nose said:

Maybe one more midfielder to round things off.

And a quick course in Esperanto for the team and any staff barking instructions!

Posted
1 hour ago, superniko said:

Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too).

How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again?

Sod how much we got for Wharton, how are you meant to compete against these parachute clubs when they continuously throw that kind of money around!?

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I think getting 1m each for Buckley, JRC and Leonard is good business, none of them looked like being very useful or pushing on (except JRC when not injured) hope they all go on to do well though.

Massive gamble of a window but I'm weirdly excited to see how these guys do. I think the new Japanese winger and Gudjohnson if it goes through could be good signings.

Hope we utilise loan spots well, maybe some experience in the league ie Baker last year.

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