Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 49 minutes ago, BRFC. said: Apparently derby are leading the race for Diaz ๐๐๐ย Good. 1 Quote
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bluebruce Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Im not sure about this one. He seems to have really struggled in the Belgian league and scored far fewer than Gueye who hasnt proved to be good enough. His record in general doesnt suggest a goalscorer. It feels like a punt although for the fees we are able to offer, I appreciate that it is particularly difficult to sign a striker compared to other positions as that position is the hardest and dearest to sign. There are things to cling on to. Neither his record for 1 season in Denmark nor his international record are brilliant but they are certainly much healthier. And he is also still quite young so fair to assume hes not at at his peak, and looking at videos, he seems to have attributes we can work with. His finishes arent scruffy (like the video of Gueye's were) and he strikes a ball cleanly, and also physically seems quite strong and he isnt slow. Who is dad is is fairly irrelevant. And to clarify, I am NOT writing him off. I am sure this post will attract people calling me out as negative as you arent allowed to point out concerns. Im just less convinced at this stage than I was when we signed some of the other players that we have. Morishita for example, another I had not seen before, I think theres far more on paper to be excited about. Think you're being a bit harsh on his record for Iceland and in Denmark. It's true I can't say they're 'brilliant' as such, but your choice of words seems to imply they're a bit naff. Perhaps it's not meant to come across that way. But his record in Denmark is almost a goal every 2 games. Which suggests a 20+ goal return over a 46 game season, which is very good. His record for Iceland would translate to about 12 goals a season, which is still fairly solid and what, 3 goals better than any of our players did last season?ย Quote
Wegerleswiggle Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago From this Scout Report I would say he's exactly what we've been missing for years. Maybe even since Rhodes left 4 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, bluebruce said: Think you're being a bit harsh on his record for Iceland and in Denmark. It's true I can't say they're 'brilliant' as such, but your choice of words seems to imply they're a bit naff. Perhaps it's not meant to come across that way. But his record in Denmark is almost a goal every 2 games. Which suggests a 20+ goal return over a 46 game season, which is very good. His record for Iceland would translate to about 12 goals a season, which is still fairly solid and what, 3 goals better than any of our players did last season?ย Yeah I dont think they are a "bit naff". Its hard to know how to read into his Iceland stats because aside from Turkey, his goals predominantly come against countries ranging from poor to out and out minnows. But then again, he plays for a poor country. He scored an excellent finish against Scotland. His goal record in Denmark is pretty good to be fair. Although it was one season and followed by one when he failed to make the step up into the Belgian league. But again, it doesnt seem like he was a guaranteed starter I dont think his record overall is overly encouraging, the signing definitely strikes me as a punt, which is the market especially with a striker that we are entering at this level of fee. I would rather have someone like this than no one at all, which is what I feared would happen, especially as we only have 1 striker capable at this level. He is only quite young too, so hopefully he can really push on now, assuming he joins. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Diaz would actually suit Eustace's style i think so if he signs hopefully big Ryan punts him into touch early when we meet. Ben will disappear then. Quote
danger19_80 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25428369.blackburn-rovers-agree-deal-striker-andri-gudjohnsen/ 6 Quote
TruRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said: From this Scout Report I would say he's exactly what we've been missing for years. Maybe even since Rhodes left Bit harsh on Danny Graham haha.ย 1 Quote
superniko Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too). How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again? Edited 7 hours ago by superniko 5 Quote
aletheia Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Eddie, Iโm not really disagreeing with your post above. Iโm not keen on revisionism โthis stuff about the old playing guard (and managers) were never going to take us anywhere. I just think that is harsh. They needed backing. On the new excitement โI get it: you just knew previously we wouldnโt make it, but we also knew that it wasnโt entirely down to the lads on the pitch โshenanigans off the pitch were responsible. I donโt like the idea that the new plan is a footballing masterstroke โit is financially driven. I donโt like the idea that if we donโt get in the top 6/promotion, then it doesnโt matter because you have to give the new plan time or itโs not fair to judge after one season (how long before we judge?) โ that would just be as you say same old but on a slimmer budget and workforce and with Pasha more firmly in control.ย Ultimately, what is it that will rid us of these owners? I donโt think we will get promotion with this new model (thereโs a stick to beat me with if it happens). So that means same old but with higher turnover of players (agents lovely jubbly). I know some would take relegation if it got rid of the owners. On the new sense of excitement. I get that too. I will certainly be going to the game with a sense of intrigue and interest. On a match to match basis, we all like to see exciting football, wins, goals etc.ย ย 3 Quote
Popular Post Nic81 Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago Iโm getting a bit frustrated with the โyou canโt see the bigger pictureโ type posts. We all know the owners are terrible, we all know things arenโt rosy behind the scenes - just because a post suggests they may be excited or intrigued, doesnโt mean that everything else is forgotten. I love this football club but after a crap week at work, itโs nice to look forward to matchday and cling on to a bit of optimism about some transfers. ย Iโm not going to caveat every slightly positive post with โbut I know the owners are crapโ or โwe havenโt invested anywhere near what we have brought inโ. I know that, we all know that, and me adding it to a post wonโt do anything and will just drive me insane. We are in the situation we are in and unfortunately that doesnโt look like changing any time soon; that might be apathy, who knows ๐คทโโ๏ธย 14 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Well in terms of the numbers of players signed this window has truly surpassed what I thought we could feasibly do in a summer. Too early to say if theyre good players but we've bought the right positions anyway. Maybe one more midfielder to round things off. 3 Quote
mark Hayhurst Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 minutes ago, aletheia said: Eddie, Iโm not really disagreeing with your post above. Iโm not keen on revisionism โthis stuff about the old playing guard (and managers) were never going to take us anywhere. I just think that is harsh. They needed backing. On the new excitement โI get it: you just knew previously we wouldnโt make it, but we also knew that it wasnโt entirely down to the lads on the pitch โshenanigans off the pitch were responsible. I donโt like the idea that the new plan is a footballing masterstroke โit is financially driven. I donโt like the idea that if we donโt get in the top 6/promotion, then it doesnโt matter because you have to give the new plan time or itโs not fair to judge after one season (how long before we judge?) โ that would just be as you say same old but on a slimmer budget and workforce and with Pasha more firmly in control.ย Ultimately, what is it that will rid us of these owners? I donโt think we will get promotion with this new model (thereโs a stick to beat me with if it happens). So that means same old but with higher turnover of players (agents lovely jubbly). I know some would take relegation if it got rid of the owners. On the new sense of excitement. I get that too. I will certainly be going to the game with a sense of intrigue and interest. On a match to match basis, we all like to see exciting football, wins, goals etc.ย ย For me itโs quite simple-you donโt overhaul a whole squad with the roll of the dice without tested Championship players being part of core changes. To say we are going into the unknown is an understatement l-exiting maybe. Theres excitement and thereโs completely unknown! For me thereโs too much sweeping changes and not just players but club staff and that sets alarm bells. Those that had any affiliation Rovers and could questions behind the scenes issues arenโt there. Who would now question the hierarchy. Too many factors that arenโt being questioned for my liking but maybe im in the minority! 2 Quote
Popular Post superniko Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago Not sure how people are against this one really. Looks a solid deal at ยฃ2m (we got ยฃ1m for JRC and Buckley remember!) He scored 1 in 2 in the Danish league. Ipswich just spent ยฃ17.5m on a striker whose scored 1 in 4 in that league. Played in the Conference League, scored 9 goals for his country, who are hardly Brazil. Top scorer for Madrid youth team and made the first team squad for Champions League. His 5 goals last season for Gent came from only 16 starts (his minutes work out as 13 matches). If he banged in 20+ at Gent heโd be going for ยฃ50m+ to a Newcastle type (theyโre paying about ยฃ5m a goal for this Woltemade lad). ย 18 Quote
Popular Post yeti-dog Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago I'd say if we get this guy for ยฃ2m euros and sell Leonard for ยฃ1m that's a pretty good bit of business as far as I'm concerned. 12 Quote
Eddie Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 41 minutes ago, superniko said: Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too). How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again? Can we honestly move on with this?ย We don't know the full terms of those deals and that transfer was also 18 months ago. Inflation alone makes 15m now 16m, never mind the exponential inflation in football transfers and wages. Will this club be forever defined by the decision to sell a player?ย Should Everton fans still be going on about how theyย onlyย got 27m for Rooney. Southamptonย onlyย got 10m for Bale. Celticย onlyย 13m for van Dijk.ย Honestly, the list of players who should have gone for more is so incredibly long, is this club really going to be defined by ONE PLAYER that we sold.ย We've also fleeced some clubs in the past when both buying and selling. Why don't we speak about that more?ย 1 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 36 minutes ago, mark Hayhurst said: For me itโs quite simple-you donโt overhaul a whole squad with the roll of the dice without tested Championship players being part of core changes. To say we are going into the unknown is an understatement l-exiting maybe. Theres excitement and thereโs completely unknown! For me thereโs too much sweeping changes and not just players but club staff and that sets alarm bells. Those that had any affiliation Rovers and could questions behind the scenes issues arenโt there. Who would now question the hierarchy. Too many factors that arenโt being questioned for my liking but maybe im in the minority! ย I don't think you are. I think there's a *lot* of nervousness about letting Travis, Brittain and Batth go, in particular.ย ย I think there's some excitement over the last day or two now we're at the 'getting new players through the door' stage, but if you were to ask most of us if we could send some of our new signings back, and get back the core of the squad that finished 7th on longer contracts, I suspect most wouldn't think twice.ย 3 Quote
superniko Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Eddie said: Can we honestly move on with this?ย We don't know the full terms of those deals and that transfer was also 18 months ago. Inflation alone makes 15m now 16m, never mind the exponential inflation in football transfers and wages. Will this club be forever defined by the decision to sell a player?ย Should Everton fans still be going on about how theyย onlyย got 27m for Rooney. Southamptonย onlyย got 10m for Bale. Celticย onlyย 13m for van Dijk.ย Honestly, the list of players who should have gone for more is so incredibly long, is this club really going to be defined by ONE PLAYER that we sold.ย We've also fleeced some clubs in the past when both buying and selling. Why don't we speak about that more?ย โInflation alone makes 15m now 16mโ then add a load of examples from 10+ years ago ๐๐๐ 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, bluebruce said: Did he? Feel like we did alright on that deal tbf. Only because Szmodics miraculously turned into a 30 goal striker. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago So its like Nathan Jones and Rovers xtra were right when they tweeted last night Gudjohnsoen Don't know anything about the player, but lets hope we get this done.ย 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Im not sure about this one. He seems to have really struggled in the Belgian league and scored far fewer than Gueye who hasnt proved to be good enough. His record in general doesnt suggest a goalscorer. It feels like a punt although for the fees we are able to offer, I appreciate that it is particularly difficult to sign a striker compared to other positions as that position is the hardest and dearest to sign. There are things to cling on to. Neither his record for 1 season in Denmark nor his international record are brilliant but they are certainly much healthier. And he is also still quite young so fair to assume hes not at at his peak, and looking at videos, he seems to have attributes we can work with. His finishes arent scruffy (like the video of Gueye's were) and he strikes a ball cleanly, and also physically seems quite strong and he isnt slow. Who is dad is is fairly irrelevant. And to clarify, I am NOT writing him off. I am sure this post will attract people calling me out as negative as you arent allowed to point out concerns. Im just less convinced at this stage than I was when we signed some of the other players that we have. Morishita for example, another I had not seen before, I think theres far more on paper to be excited about. You do realise people call you out as negative because every post is negative, right? 2 Quote
47er Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, joey_big_nose said: Maybe one more midfielder to round things off. And a quick course in Esperanto for the team and any staff barking instructions! Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, superniko said: Have I just seen Finn Azaz has been signed by Southampton for ยฃ15m, yes 15 million great british pounds, whilst Ipswich have signed a lad for ยฃ17.5m who has only played in the Danish league (worst record than Gudjohnsons lad there too). How much did we sell Adam Wharton for again? Sod how much we got for Wharton, how are you meant to compete against these parachute clubs when they continuously throw that kind of money around!? Quote
DackDackGoose Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I think getting 1m each for Buckley, JRC and Leonard is good business, none of them looked like being very useful or pushing on (except JRC when not injured) hope they all go on to do well though. Massive gamble of a window but I'm weirdly excited to see how these guys do. I think the new Japanese winger and Gudjohnson if it goes through could be good signings. Hope we utilise loan spots well, maybe some experience in the league ie Baker last year. 1 Quote
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