2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

6 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

I find it extremely hard to believe there's anything in that Gueye story, I doubt clubs over there even know he exists!

He's frustrating sometimes, to the extent you'd think he's won a raffle prize to play, then he can do something 5 minutes later and you think actually he looks OK.

He's a useful squad player and would be a huge shame IMO if he left, not just because of his footballing ability but it's impossible to not like someone so smiley and quite frankly off their tits. Probably helps He's paid handsomely like. You'd imagine he can get slightly better/more consistent this season too.

That's a great summary 😂. He's a character. I  think he is definitely a useful player to have around.  If selling him meant getting that striker playing in the Polish league, then no qualms.  It won't though and we are already light up top.  Keep hold. 

[47er]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

He has useful attributes notably heading but IMO he is not up to the standard we need.

This Is true but the problem would be the replacement. Safer to go on with someone we know and pray.

[OsloRover]

9 hours ago, rovers11 said:

If there's any truth in the Gueye story, then I'd snap your hand off if it's a decent offer. 

I would not. In fact I would be hesitant to sell him for anything less than 4-6 million right now. Feel this will be a good season for him, I’m worried who we’d get in to replace him with, and also he is the club’s  grip strength champion apparently.

[rigger]

9 hours ago, ... said:

Just like Herb Brooks said (USA Ice hockey team that beat the USSR and won Gold at the Olympics)

"I don't want the best players Gregg, I want the right ones." 

Didn't Alf Ramsey say something similar to Jack Charlton ?

[AJW]

I’m in the camp that wants to see Gueye again this season there were times last season when he was an absolute beast , the Preston game. At home comes to mind but everyone has a price and I think £3-4m is the tipping point for me

[Norbert Rassragr]

Selling Gueye now would be cretinous. We won't have a replacement lined up, and all we'll have is Ohashi and Leonard, who is rubbish.

[Exiled_Rover]

55 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's a great summary 😂. He's a character. I  think he is definitely a useful player to have around.  If selling him meant getting that striker playing in the Polish league, then no qualms.  It won't though and we are already light up top.  Keep hold. 

I'd sell him for a 6'+ do it all CF with pace - as with our wide players our #9 is going to have to create all his own goals.

As that's not going to happen I'd hold onto him.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

7 hours ago, Mercer said:

All you can do is troll, troll and further troll.

Your personal vendetta against me is plain for all to see.

It's pathetic.

For fecks sake try and be constructive or bore off.

Try and be right and I will cheers though 

[alexanders]

I would command £5-8m up for Gueye. He is a beast, he is a great character, he gives us something else and has shown glimpses of what he can do. 
IF we sell him I would replace him with (wishful thinking) Matija Frigan from Belgian Super League. Rumored to Elche. 
1,85, Croatian and had 9 goals last season for his club Westerlo. 

there is one really good thing with getting players from Swiss K-League, Belgian Super League or similar league and that is the season is already started and they should be fit and ready to go straight away. 
 

I guess today (not many hours) will give us answers how far things have advanced with both CB and MG. will they be in the line up against NEC? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Its obviously not cut and dry and there are other factors but I dont think its coincidental that our results with Ohashi up top were far, far better than with Gueye.

He was unplayable against West Brom which is the game people often refer back to but most of his performances ranged from ineffective to liability.

Also, he scored only 6 goals hence why people always say "goal contributions." They dont use that term when an out and out striker has a reasonable goal tally, they might for a winger or an attacking midfielder but Gueye doesnt score very often so they pad it out with his assists which include miss kicks in front of an open net and a header leading to a 30 yard goal of the season.

He has useful attributes notably heading but IMO he is not up to the standard we need. But as importantly if not moreso, he requires a total tactical change if he starts, he doesnt suit the rest of the team. If Ohashi isnt playing, we should have someone who is competing who isnt totally different. 

The problem with having someone similar to Ohashi is the lack of plan b. If/when teams figure us out we need something different to change things. Gueye is that player involved in 12 of our 63 goals. You are right about some ‘assists’ I don’t think they should be classed as such but at the same time the equaliser away to Leeds he got no credit for his big part so evens itself out. If we can get another 5/6 goal contributions out of him taking him to 15-20 that’s decent for a back up player 

[rigger]

For me, having a plan B is a means of changing the way a team is playing, during a game that isn't going your way. Gueye is ideal for this. It does not mean that Gueye is a replacement for Yuki if he is not available. What we need is a similar player to Yuki for when Yuki is not available, and keep Gueye for the plan B tactic. Ideally we get a better player than Yuki, and Yuki becomes the back-up, with Gueye the plan B ( I doubt very much that the last bit will happen ).  

[Tomphil2]

The initial fee quoted for Gueye when this BS first came out was c800k.

Nobody is paying millions for him so there is no point whatsoever selling but this is skint Rovers where the budget gets cut summer on summer and what happened last year has little bearing on this.

So anything could happen.

[davulsukur]

1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said:

The initial fee quoted for Gueye when this BS first came out was c800k.

Nobody is paying millions for him so there is no point whatsoever selling but this is skint Rovers where the budget gets cut summer on summer and what happened last year has little bearing on this.

So anything could happen.

If we are talking £800k for him and he goes, it can only be because Ismael doesn't want him in the squad.

We'd be selling at a loss.

[Tomphil2]

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

For me, having a plan B is a means of changing the way a team is playing, during a game that isn't going your way. Gueye is ideal for this. It does not mean that Gueye is a replacement for Yuki if he is not available. What we need is a similar player to Yuki for when Yuki is not available, and keep Gueye for the plan B tactic. Ideally we get a better player than Yuki, and Yuki becomes the back-up, with Gueye the plan B ( I doubt very much that the last bit will happen ).  

Absolutely nailed it here.

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, davulsukur said:

If we are talking £800k for him and he goes, it can only be because Ismael doesn't want him in the squad.

We'd be selling at a loss.

Not if he's told from above that we owe future instalments and don't want to or can't pay them.

[Waggy76]

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

If we are talking £800k for him and he goes, it can only be because Ismael doesn't want him in the squad.

We'd be selling at a loss.

There could be other people in the shadows, who could benefit from his sale, especially to a Saudi club who would   pay an over the top fee. 

Probably bull shit but never say never at Ewood! 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

'We're selling ole,ole,ole,selling ole,ole,ole..selling again,selling again,selling ole,ole,ole'!!!

 

Edited 4 hours ago by SIMON GARNERS 194

[roverblue]

It just beggars belief we would even contemplate selling Gueye a week before the season starts. If he goes it’s got nothing to do with improving the team and is simply more money into the black hole.
 

We have already removed our 2nd and 3rd top scorers from last season without replacement. We know nobody else in the squad will contribute much as they have been here long enough. Is Hedges going to bag 10 goals and 10 assists? Travis? Tronstad?

De Neive or Kargbo have no record of either. Brittain was our only crosser of a ball and now he’s going.

The only person who has potential to contribute more in goals and assists is Cantwell.

Unless the plan is to 0-0 our way to survival then we need to get some attackers in ASAP not sell any.
 

 

[Waggy76]

6 minutes ago, roverblue said:

It just beggars belief we would even contemplate selling Gueye a week before the season starts. If he goes it’s got nothing to do with improving the team and is simply more money into the black hole.
 

We have already removed our 2nd and 3rd top scorers from last season without replacement. We know nobody else in the squad will contribute much as they have been here long enough. Is Hedges going to bag 10 goals and 10 assists? Travis? Tronstad?

De Neive or Kargbo have no record of either. Brittain was our only crosser of a ball and now he’s going.

The only person who has potential to contribute more in goals and assists is Cantwell.

Unless the plan is to 0-0 our way to survival then we need to get some attackers in ASAP not sell any.
 

 

The plan is relegation !

[JHRover]

Just a regular reminder - decisions are not being made for the betterment of Rovers, the squad or with footballing considerations in mind.

Decisions are made based on savings and unlocking £££ and nothing else comes into it. 

If decent cash is on the table for anyone they will be sold, if that ruins our squad and season so be it. 

[KentExile]

21 minutes ago, JHRover said:

If decent cash is on the table for anyone they will be sold, if that ruins our squad and season so be it. 

Sometimes it doesn't even need "decent cash" to be on offer

[joey_big_nose]

12 hours ago, pick32 said:

I like Gueye think his hold up play is really good and shows some great footwork, brings the team 20 yards up the pitch 

Gueye is the player imo in the squad who could do an Armstrong/BBD/Szmodics and have a really exceptional season. He has all the ingredients, totally unplayable on his day. I would really want to keep him.

That said... UAE clubs do need to sign quite a lot of random smaller players to make up the numbers with big money players, they will be offering a higher wage also with zero tax. He may speak arabic too coming from Senegal.

Sort of feels plausible to me.

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1 hour ago, rigger said:

Didn't Alf Ramsey say something similar to Jack Charlton ?

I'm not sure buddy 

[RevidgeBlue]

We desperately need strikers in, not to sell them.

Selling Ohashi or Gueye would be worse than selling Travis or Tronstad for me, at least we have plenty of options in midfield.

If we did let either go, given the fact we're threadbare up top to begin with, it could only be construed as a deliberate attempt to make sure we are relegated imo.

[47er]

I don't agree there's a deliberate plan to get us relegated.

There's no plan of any kind but to continue to exist for some reason without any end point in mind.

They simply don't care.

Edited 1 hour ago by 47er