KentExile Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, CambridgeRover said: Reading that Chaddy is the Sherlock Holmes of the message board, did I take something last night ย 18 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Does that make RF99 Dr Watson? Definitely 2 sides fo the same coin Edited August 23 by KentExile 3 Quote
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superniko Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 7 hours ago, bb1rover said: So every year much of this thread is full of angry posts about Chaddy being delusional and the fact we're going to be relegated. For the last two years technically Chaddy was right to have hopes of optimism and a good season. If it happens a third time in a row does that make Chaddy right and the rest of the yearly doom mongers and chaddy haters delusional? ๐คฃ Recency bias ๐ Chaddy does it every year, us doom-mongers have a huge lead on the lad over the 15 years. Also one of those years we were almost relegated - hardly right to be optimistic. 1-1 draw over the 2 years so far Iโd say Edited August 23 by superniko 1 Quote
rigger Posted August 23 Posted August 23 I wonder who will make their debut first, Baradji or Travis ? Quote
BRFC. Posted August 23 Posted August 23 11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Itโs good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago.ย Hopefully he can come in and have an instant impactโฆ oh waitย Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 23 Posted August 23 41 minutes ago, rigger said: I wonder who will make their debut first, Baradji or Travis ? October 18th is when I predict we'll first see Baradji. 1 Quote
Hasta Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) Every season the majority predict we will finish midtable somewhere and only the most deluded cuckoo-heads predict we will be top 6. The majority have always been right. ย Edited August 23 by Hasta 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Apologies if it's already been covered but in VI'S pre match interview with the club, he says: No plans to make any loan signings at present Harry Leonard likely to go out on loan Wants to sign another attacker Some younger players might go on loan Quote
philipl Posted August 23 Posted August 23 "suitors for Ainsley Pears are less public". Yes I burst out laughing at that line. I will have to remember my chances of competing at the next World Cup are less public... 7 Quote
Hasta Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 1 minute ago, davulsukur said: Apologies if it's already been covered but in VI'S pre match interview with the club, he says: No plans to make any loan signings at present Harry Leonard likely to go out on loan Wants to sign another attacker Some younger players might go on loan Was that before or after we signed someone on loan? Edited August 23 by Hasta Quote
KentExile Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) That's a very decent signing for Oxford https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/ben-davies-joins-oxford-united-loan-rangers Davies & Helik at centre back looks solid, Helik a big set piece threat too Edited August 23 by KentExile Quote
Crimpshrine Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 10 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: We're selling established Championship players and replacing them with cheap punts from obscure European Leagues. If they're not good enough, their height is irrelevant whether they're five feet four or six feet four.ย ย This window is bringing back some bad memories - Radosav Petrovic ( I think he was 6 ftย 4 by coincidence ), Sacha Petshi, Fode Koita etc This new 'Travis replacement' is injured, on loan and on a pay as you play contract ( I believe ) I doubt he will be here next season. Edited August 23 by Crimpshrine 2 Quote
Roversider Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Signing Baradji as a loan may well be related to the questions raised about his injury status. Potentially a good player with a doubt about his fitness over time. If heโs robust then a conversion to a permanent deal makes sense. 1 Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) Rudy and Val seem hell bent on creating a team in their own image. If we buy any more foreign imports we'll be renamed something similar toย Internazionale Milano! How's about INTER ROVERS. Edited August 23 by TimmyJimmy Quote
rigger Posted August 23 Posted August 23 15 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said: Rudy and Val seem hell bent on creating a team in their own image. If we buy any more foreign imports we'll be renamed something similar toย Internazionale Milano! How's about INTER ROVERS. " Get inter um " 3 Quote
RoverCanada Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) Given the flagged medical issues, re-negotiating a loan-to-buy for Baradji is perfectly sensible. It's that it's seemingly paired with shipping Travis out (and possibly having to wait for the first instalment of that sale to hit the bank account to make the Baradji deal work...) that leaves a sour taste. 14 hours ago, islander200 said: My point is though why did none of the big boys not come in at that price?A world class talent and they let Palace have him for the 18 million? And again rated so highly outside of our vlub but wasnt making the under 21 squads.Why? So why not hang on to him and wait for the big boys to start circling? I agree that thereย wereย someย doubts about Wharton at the time. He had some inconsistent performances (I recall telling a friend to watch him when he came on against Millwall; he rightly wondered why he wasn't starting!), he needed to develop physically and show he can handle the rigours of pro football, and there are still questions about his general body language (his stride can look awkward, but he's faster than he looks). It drew some ire, but JDT might have had a point when he benched him due to alleged immaturity. All part of why he was still relatively under the radar. Plus, Broughton had just signed him to a new long-term deal and he wasn't itching to leave, unlike other Academy prodigies (Phillips, Finneran, etc. I try to be realistic and not blame them too much...) I agree it's fanciful to think we could've gotten something close to the fees being rumoured now for a player with only Champ experience (the Scott deal was 'up to' ยฃ25m, the Gray deal was linked to Leeds buying Roden, etc), but getting a bidding war going that summer (or later!) and securing an extra, say, ยฃ5-7m (and further add-ons) is nothing to scoff at given that's probably how much any 120+% wage-turnover club usually needs in net incomings (that's apparently the price of ~2 out-of-contract Championship playersย ๐).ย You have to be a realistic that a talent like him will be snapped up eventually as we stagnate in the 2nd tier, but you squeeze that golden goose for all its got. Realism about finances aside, it generally saddens me that we only really got to watch two half-seasons of him at Rovers... The bigger question is why he was available at all for ยฃ18m+ (emphasis on the '+' given some purposefully over-emphasise ยฃ18m, but I digress...) The club will never admit it, but it was because we desperately needed cashflow due to the owners being (apparently) legally prevented from sending enough money over (even if you question that story, it still looks bad on Venky's). Edited August 23 by RoverCanada 2 Quote
DutchRover Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said: This window is bringing back some bad memories - Radosav Petrovic ( I think he was 6 ftย 4 by coincidence ), Sacha Petshi, Fode Koita etc This new 'Travis replacement' is injured, on loan and on a pay as you play contract ( I believe ) I doubt he will be here next season. Last time Pasha had complete control of the club incidentally... Edited August 23 by DutchRover 1 Quote
Popular Post Paul Mani Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 I have to say, whilst I understand the idea of scouting good players out of the lower level European leagues, I genuinely think we are now playing with fire. To add the players we have and then kept Batth, Travis and Brittain, I would would be mildly excited to see how Tavares, Alebiosu, Henriksson, Miller and Baradji would fair. But to now be reliant on those players fitting in and doing a job leaves a LOT of questions. I just hope those lads settle in quick enough to prevent us getting dragged into a relegation battle and the toxicity that would create. 12 Quote
Ossydave Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Has it actually been declared anywhere that Baradji IS injured and won't feature for a while? On holiday at the min so a bit behind. Or are we just making the assumption on the back of Nixons previous story? Quote
TugaysMarlboro Posted August 23 Posted August 23 6 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: I have to say, whilst I understand the idea of scouting good players out of the lower level European leagues, I genuinely think we are now playing with fire. To add the players we have and then kept Batth, Travis and Brittain, I would would be mildly excited to see how Tavares, Alebiosu, Henriksson, Miller and Baradji would fair. But to now be reliant on those players fitting in and doing a job leaves a LOT of questions. I just hope those lads settle in quick enough to prevent us getting dragged into a relegation battle and the toxicity that would create. This is where I lie and I think many others. I believe a blend of Championship experience and unknown quantities from Europe are the way to go. Like you, I worry we've potentially tipped the balance in one direction too much and it will have a negative impact. 1 Quote
TugaysMarlboro Posted August 23 Posted August 23 52 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Apologies if it's already been covered but in VI'S pre match interview with the club, he says: No plans to make any loan signings at present Harry Leonard likely to go out on loan Wants to sign another attacker Some younger players might go on loan If Harry goes out on loan, we need a minimum of 2 attackers imo (RW and Striker) . So just saying "another" worries me. Quote
Paul Mani Posted August 23 Posted August 23 3 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: Does that make RF99 Dr Watson? I do often see these two (Chaddy and RF99) like a marvel match up. Hope vs Doom! ๐คฃ๐ช๐ฝ 1 Quote
rigger Posted August 23 Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: If Harry goes out on loan, we need a minimum of 2 attackers imo (RW and Striker) . So just saying "another" worries me. In my opinion, if Leonard goes out on loan or not, we need one striker in, who will score goals.ย 1 Quote
aletheia Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 12 hours ago, M_B said: For a club that doesn't care about it's fans, they don't half go the extra mile to make them feel better.ย Yawn. There is no incongruence here (unless you childishly try to look for it.) They don't care about the fans (only reducing expenditure). They don't try to make them feel better -they put out publicity/spin to justify their own actions and present their behaviour as the only option available. Edited August 23 by aletheia 4 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 23 Posted August 23 54 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said: Rudy and Val seem hell bent on creating a team in their own image. If we buy any more foreign imports we'll be renamed something similar toย Internazionale Milano! How's about INTER ROVERS. There's suddenly A LOT of black players in the team.ย Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's surely no coincidence. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 23 Posted August 23 25 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: I have to say, whilst I understand the idea of scouting good players out of the lower level European leagues, I genuinely think we are now playing with fire. To add the players we have and then kept Batth, Travis and Brittain, I would would be mildly excited to see how Tavares, Alebiosu, Henriksson, Miller and Baradji would fair. But to now be reliant on those players fitting in and doing a job leaves a LOT of questions. I just hope those lads settle in quick enough to prevent us getting dragged into a relegation battle and the toxicity that would create. We should have built on the squad that got us 7th last year (and realistically absolutely bottled the Playoffs). Instead we've dismantled that squad. 2 1 Quote
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