Ferrit Posted Wednesday at 10:38 Posted Wednesday at 10:38 (edited) 7/1 is a crazy price. We've scored 6 goals so far, with no sign of that improving by any decent measure any time soon. A paper thin squad, toxic behind the scenes and a clown for a manager. Id expect that price to shorten quite a bit leading up to Christmas. Edited Wednesday at 10:40 by Ferrit Quote
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Rogerb Posted Wednesday at 12:39 Posted Wednesday at 12:39 4 hours ago, Hasta said: We were 9/2 to go down at the start of the season and 7/1 to go down now, which is simply huge. That suggests the bookies think it is less likely now which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 3 Quote
Upside Down Posted Wednesday at 20:17 Posted Wednesday at 20:17 I doubt this side would make it out of League One. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted Wednesday at 20:49 Posted Wednesday at 20:49 Oxford's draw at QPR puts us into the bottom 3, albeit we can lean on the excuse of having a game in hand on most due to it raining at Ewood against Ipswich. We can take some comfort that Sheffield Wednesday, with their unpaid players and points deduction to come, are for now below us. Sheffield United WILL climb the table sooner rather than later once Wilder gets them sorted out. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted Wednesday at 20:52 Backroom Posted Wednesday at 20:52 Into the relegation zone we go. Lost more games in 7 matches than Sheffield Wednesday have in 8 - a team whose fans are in open revolt against their rogue owner, who are regularly having to play u18s due to barely having an eligible squad to pick from, who have been under a transfer embargo all summer, whose players often aren't even being paid... we've lost more matches than they have so far, having played one game less. 5 defeats in 7 matches, absolutely pathetic when we haven't even been playing most of the better teams in the division yet. That's coming soon, though, and I expect things will look even more grim by then. Exciting summer indeed. 8 Quote
roversfan99 Posted Wednesday at 23:01 Posted Wednesday at 23:01 6 defeats from 8 in all competitions. Quote
Ghost7 Posted Wednesday at 23:58 Posted Wednesday at 23:58 We'll be down there all season thanks to Gestede. Quote
John Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Not sure what to think. During (very) brief moments, we play some “OK” football, which makes you believe we have more ability than we actually do - but overall, we don’t look that threatening. Attacking wise, we are solely reliant on Cantwell. There’s generally a lack of steel in the team, and we’re too soft when it comes to conceding goals. Combined with VI’s poor managerial track record (including with us), it’s hard not to feel that this will be a tough season. Quote
Hasta Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) Generally, when sides go down they aren’t terrible all the time. The number of sides that get relegated with 45+ points tells you this. There will be times in the season when all those sides will have played well, won games and thought “we might be OK”. My big concern is what happens every year. We get injuries, squad gets stretched and we get worse. It’s just this year we won’t have points in the bank. Edited 22 hours ago by Hasta 1 Quote
London blue Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago I think the opening 9 games, combined with the next 5 or 6 will prove too much to overcome. We'll be - in my opinion - in the bottom 3, low on confidence and leaders and the ask will be to steel our selves and outperform those above us. I don't think group of players or the manager has it in them. I predict us to get relegated. I'd love to be wrong. Quote
philipl Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Yesterday we collected a point relegation sides don't get. We have played WBA, Brum, Ipswich and Stoke of the favoured sides and frankly been unlucky not to have got more points against them. But relegation sides don't get the luck especially against good sides. We have been dire in one half against Norwich and two halves against Charlton and suffered a worldie and suicide against Swansea. The real relegation test will be gaining or dropping points against the two Sheffields and Oxford. Performances against Hull and Watford suggest we will be ok but do a Charlton and we will be deservedly in the poo. I can see us playing brilliantly against Coventry, terribly against Sheffield United and losing both... Quote
Moptop1 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago What a way to celebrate 150 yrs of our great club. Relegation. 🙄 Quote
USABlue Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) I have felt since the off this will be an engineered relegation. Can't get rid of the feeling Venkies WANT that. At times we have played quite decent giving me hope, even prompted me to take the humble pie out the freezer only for Charlton and Swansea to.kick me in the nuts and back to doom and gloom. A little more luck, a ref or two that can actully see and things wiuld look a lot different. Thing is that is how luck goes for those going down. Edited 10 hours ago by USABlue Quote
Hasta Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, philipl said: Yesterday we collected a point relegation sides don't get. Owen Coyle won away at Newcastle. Steve Kean won away at Old Trafford. Plymouth beat us when we were in the top 6 last year. Relegated sides aren't poor all season. They have good results, just less of them. Edited 6 hours ago by Hasta 4 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago can we include burnley in the relegation thread 😅 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 4 hours ago Backroom Posted 4 hours ago What worries me is that a lot of performances people are classifying as "good", like WBA, I found to be very average if not poor. From memory we had a single shot on target in the WBA game. We finished 7th last season and have been in and around the playoffs in most seasons since L1 promotion. I understand standards being lowered a lot due to the choice of manager and suicidal transfer policy, but still, it's tough for me to call much of what I've seen this season as good. At best the odd 15-20 minutes here and there where we look a bit threatening, but is that where the limits of our ambitions should be? 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, USABlue said: I have felt since the off this will be an engineered relegation. Can't get rid of the feeling Venkies WANT that. At times we have played quite decent giving me hope, even prompted me to take the humble pie out the freezer only for Charlton and Swansea to.kick me in the nuts and back to doom and gloom. A little more luck, a ref or two that can actully see and things wiuld look a lot different. Thing is that is how luck goes for those going down. The deliberately engineered relegation is my view. I felt the same in 2012-13, when every decision looked fashioned to deliver that very outcome. I felt the same in the Coyle season, but it was as if there was a change of plan later on. ..Another kind of fresh start! What I don't understand is why, who gains and how... The powers that be have obviously decided they can get away with it, that any protests will be limp etc.. I think the stuff with the LT just shows how unfit Gestede and Suhail are. They should not be anywhere near this club. But , in the end, even these horrible sores are mere symptoms of our toxic, Indian disease. 1 Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Changing leagues always requires a change of playing staff. There's only one profession that benefits from that. If we were a club run by agents (we're not of course) then things would begin to make sense. Agents won't have the money to buy a club outright, if it were legal they'd need rich friends to do the doing. This isn't the case at our club, thank goodness. People with such baseless speculation would be fantasising next about money laundering via transfer dealings. Grow up! Everythings normal here. Move on. 1 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, Moptop1 said: What a way to celebrate 150 yrs of our great club. Relegation. 🙄 It just shows the impunity. They knew it was the anniversary year, when they conducted the unforgiveable, kamikaze transfer window... Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said: Changing leagues always requires a change of playing staff. There's only one profession that benefits from that. If we were a club run by agents (we're not of course) then things would begin to make sense. Agents won't have the money to buy a club outright, if it were legal they'd need rich friends to do the doing. This isn't the case at our club, thank goodness. People with such baseless speculation would be fantasising next about money laundering via transfer dealings. Grow up! Everythings normal here. Move on. it`s definately not normal in this club😅 you just don`t know what pasha and his pet poodle gestede are up to,tbh i think venkys are punishing us by not selling because of the snowball incident,they`ve put pasha in charge as a kamikaze ceo to stop us progressing,we`ve been near the top six enough but they destroy the momentum every time,they definately don`t want us in the premier league,they are letting us wither and die i think Quote
onlyonejackwalker Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago There is no point kidding ourselves. We are in serious trouble this year. We have lost and not replaced four or five solid Championship players, we lack structure, physicality, pace and creativity. And most importantly, leaders. We struggle to score and not concede. We look weak in all departments. I always worry when we are getting turned over at home. I dont think we've got the heart for what lies ahead. 1 Quote
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