Next Rovers manager

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, M_B said:

It actually felt like that when Coyle was appointed. 

It will also feel like that if Coleman is appointed tbf.

Im pretty confident that link is a wind up/red herring but let's see.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

One of the questions that any canny candidates could ask is,  how much of the 80 million sell on fee for Wharton when he leaves in the Summer, will I be able to spend on players?

At least it would show initiative 😉

What would that be?

15% of 56 m - £8.4m?

"We'll give you 10% - £840,000"

"Robbie?"

"You still there Robbie?"

[M_B]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It will also feel like that if Coleman is appointed tbf.

Im pretty confident that link is a wind up/red herring but let's see.

To be honest I didn't realise about the Kean link, on the face of it, he looked a good shout, couldn't ask for more experience. 

[RoversClitheroe]

Reading fans really don't rate Leam Richardson. Terrible manager.

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

I’m surprised there’s not more talk around Lee Bowyer

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, M_B said:

To be honest I didn't realise about the Kean link, on the face of it, he looked a good shout, couldn't ask for more experience. 

I can't tell if you're deliberately trolling there but go on Ill bite.

I couldnt care less about the Kean link. Allardyce also worked with him and most people would have him back.

I just think Coleman is a really poor Coach. Serial failure. In 3 of his last 6 jobs he's had win ratios around the 25% mark plus in a 4th one (Sunderland) 17 %

[LeftWinger]

42 minutes ago, alexanders said:

Maybe it’s been said, but Leam Richardson has been linked. Never heard of him. 

I suspect people are just going off his links with Rovers when making these odds (he came through our youth team)

[M_B]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I can't tell if you're deliberately trolling there but go on Ill bite.

I couldnt care less about the Kean link. Allardyce also worked with him and most people would have him back.

I just think Coleman is a really poor Coach. Serial failure. In 3 of his last 6 jobs he's had win ratios around the 25% mark plus in a 4th one (Sunderland) 17 %

Not trolling at all, never looked into it to that extent, just seemed a good shout. 

Regarding the win percentages, it does depend which club in which division,you can't just take it as a blanket figure.

I'm not advocating signing him up, I just didn't instantly disregard it as most did

[B16Rover]

I know Val left under mutual consent, but I figured that was a pay off and leave ahead of a replacement being identified.  

It seems he genuinely left ala Eustace/JDT (broken promises - despite his general shit performance) and we're left in the lurch.

How do you run a football club with the record ours has, and not have a plan b waiting in the wings

[Waggy76]

It is obvious the 2 stooges have no real plan !

[Andy]

1 minute ago, B16Rover said:

I know Val left under mutual consent, but I figured that was a pay off and leave ahead of a replacement being identified.  

It seems he genuinely left ala Eustace/JDT (broken promises - despite his general shit performance) and we're left in the lurch.

How do you run a football club with the record ours has, and not have a plan b waiting in the wings

Yep, if you have no succession plan in a standard business, you're creating your own problems.

If you have none as a football club administrator, you are - quite frankly - clueless.

[alexanders]

Eddie Howe might be available tonight 

[47er]

4 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

It is obvious the 2 stooges have no real plan !

Better to limp along with Johnson till the end of the season (depending on results) and come up with a new manager then.

As it is I fear they'll rush with somebody (anybody) and nothing will change.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

It is obvious the 2 stooges have no real plan !

Nope.

I dont believe there was some sudden sort of big bust up but Ismael tanked from the moment he arrived.

They should have had contingency plans in place months ago.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, 47er said:

Better to limp along with Johnson till the end of the season (depending on results) and come up with a new manager then.

As it is I fear they'll rush with somebody (anybody) and nothing will change.

At the end of the day we both know that nothing will really change until the Chicken Chokers leave.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, 47er said:

Better to limp along with Johnson till the end of the season (depending on results) and come up with a new manager then.

That's a fair point isnt it. We might look slightly more attractive to potential candidates with Championship status guaranteed.

[RoversClitheroe]

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[Wegerleswiggle]

It's the golfer Harold Varner III

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, Wegerleswiggle said:

It's the golfer Harold Varner III

No it isn't.

[Torgeir]

7 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

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Rudy’s brother

[RoversClitheroe]

5 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

It's the golfer Harold Varner III

It's not.

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

There is a real lack of professionalism and feel of integrity associated with the Rovers ownership & board. You only have to look at Chris Sutton's recent comments to know that this is felt within 'the industry'.

As with anything, if you work in a particular sector you get to hear of the horror stories of working in a certain place. Once that reputation sets in it takes mammoth shifts in culture and results to change. We will not see that here, as the 4 people pictured at yesterdays game are the same 4 people who will oversee the recruitment of the new manager.

I have made previous posts of why I think Rudy Gestede is a truly terrible appointment but there is no greater example of his destructiveness than the shape of the squad and its outwardly facing 'togetherness'. I want to start this point by saying I hold no ill will to any of the current set of players we have as I think all have the best intentions for the club - Cantwell aside, for reasons I will touch on. But when you compare the togetherness of this squad compared to the recent years gone by I don't think you would be over presumptuous to say there is just no sense of teamwork or camaraderie at all. At times it feels like 11 individuals, and not a team.

I think this can be summed up by Szmodic's interview on joining Derby. He was asked who his best friend in football was - his answer, Travis. Dolan has said the same. We have lost so many big characters in recent years the squad just looks and feels decimated. I look back at a squad with characters like Dack, Danny Graham, Mulgrew, Travis, Szmodics - all players of fine professionalism but who were clearly just good team mates. When we lost the first 3 of that list it felt ok, we had others coming through and they were brought on by more senior players and good coaches. But losing Trav, Szmodics and Hyam in that short space of time has been hard.

Since Rudy has come in he has just dismantled that sense of togetherness that resulted first from Tony Mowbray's involvement in the Club, but then built on by JDT and Eustace. People slag off Mowbray's "not just getting anybody in the door" line but I don't think anybody can suggest he did not build a squad that felt much more like "a squad" than this lot. All that hard work has been undone by Rudy in less than 12 months - first, the fall out with long standing staff members and then the petulant and very obvious forcing out the door of senior playing staff who clearly let their opinions be known. I refuse to believe that the freezing out of Pickering is anything but Rudy Gestede's peevishness. What has been left is a squad that is defunct of leadership - where we have had our captain and all-round shitehawk Cantwell going on Sky Sports laying bets our out of confidence striker misses the target. Could you imagine Trav or Mulgrew saying that publicly?

When you look at what Rudy has built it is very testament to the type of person he is. A squad full of nomadic players being used to blend in a model pushed by Suhail and that other peevish rat-Rao of churning our young players who are simply not ready for the level of exposure being asked of them. You can use the academy when you are putting him in to the trenches with a midfield of Tronstad and Travis, with Sammie up top battering centre halves about. But what Rudy has ensured is that these young lads are thrown in at the deep end with the type of leadership that suits him - a journeyman with an attitude problem that won't give him grief as long as he is paid and told he's the best.

Overall I think this squad represents Rudy Gestede perfectly. Eustace saw it coming. I think other managers will to. If rumours that their top 2 targets refused to interview are true then we are in for a rough ride here. 

A very good post.

At the end of the day, Tony Mowbray was a football manager, a competent one who knew what he wanted his team to look like. He knew the importance of good characters, he knew what he saw a functional team to need. And when Waggott came in, he had no desire to play his own real life football manager.

The above isnt a defence of Mowbray. My point is we have succumbed to the modern way where essentially the one designing the team is someone in a suit. He wont know how to make a winning team, everything will be based on data, nothing on character. The manager is lumped with players he didnt pick and he just has to work with them.

For us, that setup is made so much worse because the likes of Gestede and Owen in those roles, before you even think of Suhail, are totally out of their depth.

[alexanders]

Google AI: 

Rudy Gestede is the person in the picture. He is a former professional football player and is now the Head of Football at Blackburn Rovers.

He played internationally for France at the U19 level before switching to Benin. Gestede played for Cardiff City, where he helped the club earn promotion to the Premier League. He was loaned to Blackburn Rovers in 2013, and the transfer became permanent in January 2014.

[Wegerleswiggle]

Just now, alexanders said:

Rudy interview 

 

Who is the biggest star name in your phone book?

 

I would say Miralem Pjanic of AS Roma. We played together in the same Academy in France. I think he’s the biggest one, or maybe Craig Bellamy.

Colin Hendry, Derek Faz, Simon Garner, Jacob Murphy

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

24 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

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The fuck is that?