Rovers next manager

[Rover down South]

It would absolutely hurt, no question, to see Trav lifting the playoff trophy would be absolutely gut wrenching but if that’s what it takes to get the media talking about the demise of Blackburn Rovers and the attraction of jumping from a club in the play offs to a club in danger of relegation, I’ll take it.

We could appoint Jurgen Klopp but still can’t see him getting this current squad challenging for much.

Tronstad walks in the summer, Toth & Alebiosu sold on.

We need something to trigger a change.

Edited 1 hour ago by Rover down South

[Hasta]

Just now, StHelensRover said:

Every time we get to this point people say:

"We're a name, people will want to manage Blackburn Rovers"

"It's a Championship job, there will always be takers"

Etc, etc.

Seriously, at this point, after managers effectively walking out 3 years in a row (Ismael technically sacked or mutual agreement, but he was clearly absolutely sick of it). Who other than grossly unqualifieds and absolute chancers are going to want this job?

Everyone in football speaks to each other. Players, coaches, staff. Anyone with any credentials or reputation is going to know we're a complete basket case and will not be applying. That's why we got VI.

One or even two failed managers in a row, and the next manager might think they're the one to turn it round. 3 managers in 3 years, always the second the Jan window shuts? It's a red flag you could see from space.

All the names we're saying we would like - would you take the job if you were them? I wouldn't!

Yes. You've got to limit it to people who have a reputation to repair. Lee Bowyer, Ryan Mason etc..

[rossyste]

With the greatest of respect to those throwing new manager names around does it really matter who we get when the squad is so weak and we have completely disinterested owners ? If by some miracle we survive this season will next season be any better ? Will the owners back the new manager in the transfer market ? Will they reduce season ticket prices to get the stadium rocking ? Will we increase our 4K Adult season ticket holders ? Will the club engage with lapsed fans ? 

Sadly we know all of these answers, nothing matters other than strangling the life out of Venkys until they are gone. Don't spend in the stadium, don't spend in the shop and when season tickets go on sale for next seasons "journey" if you must buy one leave it until the very last minute. 

We are an empty shell, a new manager will arrive and good luck to him, but we are simply shuffling the deck chairs around on the Titanic..

[SuperBrfc]

I think it is probably going to be one from three agencies they have been familiar with over the past 15 years.

Miller mentioned the main one to look out for last night in HSH. The other two are Unique (Val's agency) and SMI. Looking at the managers the three of those represent, I'll take a guess and say I expect to see the following in the running/linked by the press:

1) Any from the HSH list. I think there's a possibility Sami Hyypia is being considered for the role. There has been a Liverpool flavour here for a long while, plus Vignal (former Liverpool) has only recently joined the club.

Hyypia managed Brighton in the past too, so if anybody behind the scenes has deluded visions of the 'Brighton model' (which this lot could never replicate), then Hyypia could be a shout.

2) Will Still (Unique). Currently available.

3) Marti Cifuentes (Unique). Currently available.

4) Lee Bowyer (SMI). Currently available.

5) Aitor Karanka. His agency is FIA, but he has been linked with the Rovers job in the past and his previous Boro connection makes him a possibility, IMO.

He is currently in some kind of Technical Development role with the Spanish National team. Would he leave that to come here? Hmm, maybe. This might be his only route back into the Championship/English football for now.

I think Cifuentes and Will Still are going to be out of reach. The former is said to be wanted by Watford. Will Still might feel that he can do better and wait for another opportunity. Number (4) is my guy feeling as to who it will be.

 

[superniko]

21 minutes ago, Rover down South said:

I’m kind of hoping Johnson until the end of the season.

Fingers crossed Derby go up via the playoffs. Will be a bit heart wrenching at first, but the media will surely jump all over the fact Eustace left us in the playoffs, to take a team from the relegation zone to the Premier League in 18 months, with a number of former Rovers players & backing from the owners. A message of ‘this is what YOU could have had’.

I’m certain it would get so much media coverage and the story of John Eustace would really rub Pasha & Rudy’s noses in it. They’d never admit they were wrong but there would be no escaping their colossal mistake. 

Could spell the end for RG and all of a sudden the Rovers job looks a bit more attractive.

Edit: it’ll be 16 months!

Depressing looking at their squad now versus our own - chalk and cheese for a team actually backing a successful manager at the right timing (imagine if we did the same for JDT or Eustace!)

Agyemang, Brereton, Szmodics, Bobby Clark, Carlton Morris - any of those 5 would instantly be our best attacking option. I think they've built the best squad outside of parachute payment clubs and Coventry to be honest.

[roversfan99]

Chris Coleman as mentioned as the favourite on the last page would be a laughable appointment.

Wonder if he would bring his old assistant from his Fulham days. Steve Kean.

[Waggy76]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Chris Coleman as mentioned as the favourite on the last page would be a laughable appointment.

Wonder if he would bring his old assistant from his Fulham days. Steve Kean.

It is possible , he still has links with Gestede !

[SuperBrfc]

My first thought upon seeing Chris Coleman mentioned was that he has worked with Steve Kean.

Forget him being a former player here. It is his association with Kean that has my radar going.

Which other Championship jobs has Chris Coleman been linked with recently? I genuinely don't know.

[Tricky]

2 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Which other Championship jobs has Chris Coleman been linked with recently? I genuinely don't know.

Leicester

[DaveyB]

Tbh I’ve long since resigned myself to relegation this season - and tbh, given that Gestede is likely to still be in charge and therefore there’s no chance of us signing 5 or 6 decent Championship-standard players in the summer, it will probably be a blessing as next season would be even more of a struggle than this has been. 
So therefore, in my opinion, we need to be looking to appoint someone with an eye to getting us promoted next season. The best option I’ve seen named so far is Mercer’s suggestion of Chalinor - but that’s far too sensible and so I can’t see them going for him (plus I’m not sure he’d want it)
Personally, I’d love to see someone like Duff, or even Robbie Savage who’s done well at Macclesfield & FGR. Hell, I’d even take Sherwood - it’d just be nice to feel some connection with the club again tbh - but again I can’t see any of those happening. 

The rest of the names mentioned are just depressing tbh - the likes of Rowett, Coleman, Wagner etc - managers with long lists of failures and the odd bright spot who somehow keep getting jobs despite all the evidence pointing to the fact that they’re not very good.
100% it’s going to be one of those 

[davulsukur]

28 minutes ago, alexanders said:

For real? 

lol, no

[Tricky]

17 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Will Still might feel that he can do better and wait for another opportunity.

come back to Lancs, Will...

[rog of the rovers]

 

Someone turn the lights off on the way out if its Chris Coleman.

 

[Ossydave]

Alarming people still don't 'get' odds on the next Blackburn manager market.....

For Coleman there's a link to Adam Owen, assumptions being made.....

[Exiled_Rover]

23 minutes ago, superniko said:

Depressing looking at their squad now versus our own - chalk and cheese for a team actually backing a successful manager at the right timing (imagine if we did the same for JDT or Eustace!)

Agyemang, Brereton, Szmodics, Bobby Clark, Carlton Morris - any of those 5 would instantly be our best attacking option. I think they've built the best squad outside of parachute payment clubs and Coventry to be honest.

They've spent a fortune.

[yeti-dog]

10 minutes ago, DaveyB said:

Tbh I’ve long since resigned myself to relegation this season - and tbh, given that Gestede is likely to still be in charge and therefore there’s no chance of us signing 5 or 6 decent Championship-standard players in the summer, it will probably be a blessing as next season would be even more of a struggle than this has been. 
So therefore, in my opinion, we need to be looking to appoint someone with an eye to getting us promoted next season. The best option I’ve seen named so far is Mercer’s suggestion of Chalinor - but that’s far too sensible and so I can’t see them going for him (plus I’m not sure he’d want it)
Personally, I’d love to see someone like Duff, or even Robbie Savage who’s done well at Macclesfield & FGR. Hell, I’d even take Sherwood - it’d just be nice to feel some connection with the club again tbh - but again I can’t see any of those happening. 

The rest of the names mentioned are just depressing tbh - the likes of Rowett, Coleman, Wagner etc - managers with long lists of failures and the odd bright spot who somehow keep getting jobs despite all the evidence pointing to the fact that they’re not very good.
100% it’s going to be one of those 

Wagner has a pretty decent record overall. Rowett too if you take Oxford out of the equation. 

Coleman on the other hand....

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36 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Yes. You've got to limit it to people who have a reputation to repair. Lee Bowyer, Ryan Mason etc..

Was watching that incident with Bowyer and Dyer this morning lol mad times they were

[jim mk2]

Still had 2 wins in 13 matches before Southampton sacked him so he would be an upgrade on Ismael

Seriously, who wants any of those contenders? Duds the lot of them 

[Rover down South]

Coleman has a 29% win rate (Coventry) and 17% (Sunderland) so absolutely not what we want or need.

Wagner or Hassenhuttl would be first two on my list.

Thought we’d have a poll by now!

[AndyB]

35 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Hyypia managed Brighton in the past too, so if anybody behind the scenes has deluded visions of the 'Brighton model' (which this lot could never replicate), then Hyypia could be a shout.

Dear god no!

Here's a Brighton fan view 

https://www.wearebrighton.com/newsopinion/what-went-wrong-for-brighton-and-sami-hyypia/

Quote from the article "And that kind of sums up Hyypia’s Reign of Terror. Bad recruitment. Tactics ill-suited to the Championship. Stubbornness to the point of delusion."

Sounds like a Scandi version of VI

[Jimmy612]

It won't be Chris Coleman.... It just can't be 😂  The Leicester and Rovers links are surely just an agent trying his best.  

I'm taking no notice of the odds.  Eustace aside (which was clearly already done), we've never appointed an early favourite.  Coyle, TM, JDT and VI all were obscure or real outsiders when the conversations started (I think)

[Tomphil2]

Coleman would probably be the final straw breaking the camels back for this club and ownership.

[Tricky]

3 minutes ago, Rover down South said:

Wagner or Hassenhuttl would be first two on my list.

 

this, both too good for us tho

[Lancaster Rover]

3 hours ago, pick32 said:

Derek McInnes would be good, but think I think he would turn us down. 

He's at a club bankrolled by Tony Bloom, them or this clown show, tough choice!

Edited 57 minutes ago by Lancaster Rover

[G Somerset Rover]

9 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Still had 2 wins in 13 matches before Southampton sacked him so he would be an upgrade on Ismael

Seriously, who wants any of those contenders? Duds the lot of them 

Pointing out the obvious but the chances of us landing on our feet again with a Eustace or JDT feel slim to none with just Pasha and Rudy at the wheel.

Dream scenario is Johnson does enough to hold onto it, we stay up, then there are huge changes at the club in the summer - either Venky's or at the vert least, Pasha bugger off. Then I woke up.