MarkBRFC Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Hopefully he'll get another chance in the Championship. We shouldn't be signing some Chilean hotshot with one hand and Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo from League One with the other Now he sounds like a player.
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Amo Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I think the point is Ince shouldn't be spending roughly 15% of his transfer kitty on some League Two journeyman.
tony gale's mic Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Forgot about that bit Still, he must know something about him that we don't, to want to spend that much on him. The managers who he played under who didnt consider him good enough to play in the Championship must have known something too...
LeChuck Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 You mean like Bayern did with Santa Cruz? OK, that's a little wayward in comparison, but the principle of players improving their game or form is my point. You had to make a wayward comparison because there are no straight comparisons of a 27 year old making the leap from League Two to the Premier League for £1.5 million. The example of Santa Cruz can't be applied to Andrews for many, many reasons.
tony gale's mic Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 You mean like Bayern did with Santa Cruz? OK, that's a little wayward in comparison, but the principle of players improving their game or form is my point. Name me one player who at the age of 27 suddenly improves their game this much and has successfully made such a big step up. Just one will do...
LeChuck Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I'm not saying I'm a fan of Andrews, but you can't suggest that a player from League 2 can't improve his game simply because he's been a little-known talent for his previous playing years. I'm not saying he can't improve his game...I am saying it's incredibly unlikely he can improve to anywhere near Premiership standard after a decade of trying and getting nowhere near (in fact, his career has been moving backwards ever since it started). The gulf between the Championship and the Premiership is bad enough, just look at how the promoted teams and players struggle, so I'm now sure why anyone would expect Andrews to be able to make the jump from League Two (I think some of us might be forgetting how poor that league is). If we were getting him for £200k or something then I wouldn't be bothered about it, not much to lose there really...but anything more than that is insanity, never mind fees approaching £1.5 million.
tony gale's mic Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Brad Friedel (27+). He'd had a successful stint at Galatasaray (much higher level than MK Dons), and I'd say being a reserve at Liverpool is still much, much more than Andrews has ever managed. Next...
LeChuck Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Brad Friedel (27+). Would you like to alter your question? Oh come on. You can't seriously suggest making the 'leap' from squad-player at Liverpool to where he is now is anywhere near making the leap from League Two to the Premiership?
chocky Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Someone else has made a bid for him...Not sure who..But Di Matteo says he wants him to stay..I think Andrews is a red herring myself
Grabbi Graeme Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Watford have made a bid for Andrews according to Setanta.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Name me one player who at the age of 27 suddenly improves their game this much and has successfully made such a big step up. Just one will do... Tony Book- signed his first pro contract for Plymouth at the age of 28 ! Moved to Man City at the age of 30 and for about 4 years was in the top 3 right backs in the old first division. Given that this was 35 plus years ago it proves the point that the gulf is vast.
92er Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 OK, I'm cornered on that question I guess! Maybe the price tag of Andrews is a worry, but that aside, I doubt he'd play a major part in the team, so I wouldn't worry too much. At best, he'll provide cover for midfield when we're running low - I just think that the team won't revolve around Andrews and some people are overreacting on that front! What concerns me are both the quality of the player and the amount of money Ince appears to think we have to buy new players. Other people have rightly questioned the quality of Andrews. I want to make the point that £1.5 mill, if that is the price, would be a sizeable proportion of MH's last summer's transfer budget-did we make any sizeable purchases other than Santa Cruz? Why are we actually giving PI a bigger pot of money than our previous manager, who really was astute on the transfer market? Do the Board really expect a manager who has never worked as a manager at this level before and who appears to like DVD'S will be more proficient than MH?
philipl Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I don't believe for a nanosecond that Keith Andrews will be signing for Blackburn Rovers.
Scotty Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I don't believe for a nanosecond that Keith Andrews will be signing for Blackburn Rovers. You had to do it didn't you? Might as well get his name printed on the back of my shirt now.
rebelmswar Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Watford have made a bid for Andrews according to Setanta.
Majiball Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Finally I can comment on this!! WHY?? even if we play with 3 in the middle surely with the additions of Pineapple and Castillo we have 2 in each position Mokoena/Castillo Reid/Vogel Dunn/Pineapple and of course there's still tugay! Even at 1.5M I'd rather see it either saved for Jan or spent getting in a top draw RW to replace Bentley. I can but into the whole mole theory I've read on here, but surely a good man manager would not use a spy! I can only assume that Ince made a promise to Andrews that if he went he would take him with him, but I suspect when he said this to him it was prior to us stepping in for him! Others have come into the top flight late and done well, Guy Wittingham springs to mind.
Drakefyre Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Even at 1.5M I'd rather see it either saved for Jan I don't think she'd hold up too well in the Prem
rebelmswar Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 rebel, that icon is awesome!! It sums up my thoughts entirely.
Jan Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I don't think she'd hold up too well in the Prem Better that Keith Andrews would. I, at least, can trap a ball.
Majiball Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Better that Keith Andrews would. I, at least, can trap a ball. I'll bet you can
joey_big_nose Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I don't believe for a nanosecond that Keith Andrews will be signing for Blackburn Rovers. Im with you all the way. If we were actually interested he would be at Ewood by now. I could actually understand the move if we were short in midfield, but seeing as we are pobably going to have too many players in that area rather than too few, signing him seems completely daft. Seems like rather wishful thinking on the part of Andrews and his agent, and perhaps the product of a loose promise months ago by Ince when he thought he was off to the Chamionship.. It might get MK and the player more cash though from the likes of Watford...
rebelmswar Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Sun Link "But midfielder Keith Andrews’ move from MK Dons to Ewood Park is on hold. " Almost as an afterthought the above quote is at the bottom. Strange, strange, strange transfer saga this one.
brian_gallagher85 Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Go on Keith lad, screw the nay sayers
CrazyIvan Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 I'm sure there's another Keith Andrews thread somewhere but this one will do... Good lad Keith. Agreed. I don't care what anybody says, Keith is Mr 100%. He always gives 100%, 100% of the time. He might have a shocker or a decent game but he will always put in the maximum.
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