[Archived] Season tickets again!

[tomphil]

Venkys representatives ? Two of the biggest games under their ownership and against world famous opposition with an opportunity to get themselves on tv briefly again but no sign of them. Interest is definitely on the wane now from the fat one. Please no one tell me they stayed away so not to stir anything up as that's utter @#/? and you know it.

[Rover_Shaun]

Why are you shocked? They have never given a fck

[AggyBlue]

I'm assuming you stayed behind last night and told the Venkys representatives in the Jack Walker box exactly how you felt, right?

They were just the match sponsor and guests

[Amo]

They were just the match sponsor and guests

Can just imagine these innocent bystanders cowering in fear as Abbey gives them a mouthful.

[ABBEY]

So they wernt there then ? More pro Venky cobblers then

[J*B]

They where invited into the owners box by Venkys.

[thenodrog]

Why are you shocked? They have never given a fck

tbh neither do I. I couldn't care less whether the venkymob are at Ewood or in Timbuctoo. Completely irrelevent.

[Mattyblue]

All anecdotal, of course, however over the last few weeks, I have not come across so many fans saying they won't be renewing since the days and weeks post relegation when it became apparent Kean would be staying.

My approach would have been to have handed/posted a ST form to everybody that bought a ticket for last night (and the rest of the database). But of course, there are no STs to buy, though must clubs have long had their ST's on sale, ours will limp on to the market, in say late June- any positive vibes post last night, long gone.

Another season of Bowyer dirge is not in anyway a selling point.

[Blue blood]

Good post Mattyblue. Or at the very least push the 3 for £30 matches on a try before you buy basis to tempt people in. Get the team playing positive football, a few solid wins (not one goal scrappy affairs) and build some momentum for next season. Last night was the perfect springboard to do so one way or another, and we totally missed the opportunity.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Rovers,Burnley,Preston and Bolton all likely to be in the Championship next year.

It will be harder than ever to sell and promote our Season Tickets to an even smaller catchment area.

[tomphil]

It's ironic that the much needed price rise is being talked about for next season when in fact there has never been a greater need in the past few years to virtually give them away. This time last season I didn't want it end and was really looking forward to this one. This year I'm absolutely dreading next season for a host of reasons

[thenodrog]

It's ironic that the much needed price rise is being talked about for next season when in fact there has never been a greater need in the past few years to virtually give them away. This time last season I didn't want it end and was really looking forward to this one. This year I'm absolutely dreading next season for a host of reasons

Give them away? If that was what it took I'd turn the leki off, shut the doors and send the bulldozers in if I was the owner.

[Gav]

Rovers,Burnley,Preston and Bolton all likely to be in the Championship next year.

It will be harder than ever to sell and promote our Season Tickets to an even smaller catchment area.

I don't buy that pal, if anything I'd say it would increase sales with potential derby matches in the offing.

But people won't carry on buying if the product is rubbish, and thats been the case most of this season and last.

[tomphil]

Give them away? If that was what it took I'd turn the leki off, shut the doors and send the bulldozers in if I was the owner.

In the grand scheme of things though it doesn't make much of a dent in their personal fortune. So if they can find a way of subsidising them by getting a few quid into the club to help the balance sheet and around the FFP rules then I'd urge them to do so. Part of this problem was obviously started by the previous regime to drive up the crowds and help the sale process whilst the club was in the shop window. Venkys however carried it on, more by desperate damage limitation than anything else but now is not the time to alter that. We need to cling on to most of what we have, a big price rise will spell disaster and go against any good work that has been done.

Fans were coming back in bits and bats earlier this season when there was a feel good factor but of course the team and management contrived to balls that up. Only the cup run has stopped things from taking a serious dive again off the park.

[Husky]

Wednesday night I stayed to clap the players off the pitch like it was the last goodbye.

I guess the club will just have to hope people have appalling memories and might forget this season's league dross by early August.

[thenodrog]

Wednesday night I stayed to clap the players off the pitch like it was the last goodbye.

I guess the club will just have to hope people have appalling memories and might forget this season's league dross by early August.

dross eh? Just to add much needed balance to this thread how do you describe Blackpool's, Wigan's and Millwall's performances then?

I'm getting sick of people only comparing us to the likes of Watford, BMouth and Derby etc and not applying the same criteria concerning clubs below us. We maybe haven't performed as expected 9 months ago, maybe we could be in better hands than Bowyers (pretty sure we could be in worse ones too) but that imo is down to the competition in this Division. Also lets be honest, don't believe the billybullshit in the LT or on the club web site either, believe rather the evidence of your own eyes and judgement and our players are just not good enough to challenge for promotion whoever is in charge are they?

[Stuart]

Woah. Slow down, Gordon. I'm struggling with this one.

You stopped going to watch Rovers in protest because you didn't want to give Venkys £250. What has changed in your eyes that makes you think that giving them £450 will improve matters?

Will it make them employ a better manager? Will it pay of the debt (in something less than a thousand years)? Will it go towards funding the players we need to plug the gaps that we still have? Will it help us meet FFP?

From where I'm sat it won't. So why have you decided differently? Have you fallen into the trap of superimposing the template for a normal club onto the basket case that we currently are? Or something else?

[JHRover]

Unfortunately for at least as long as FFP rules remain in place, the clubs best chance at competing is to put bums on seats in Ewood Park. There's no way round that fact, whatever people's logic behind not wanting to renew.

Refusing to go and support the club because you don't like the owners/manager or can't cope with 'underachieving' or 'only' being 7th-10th in the Championship is all well and good, but ultimately will only contribute further to the clubs decline as revenues dwindle and the atmosphere worsen. Its not about playing a blame game about whose fault it is we are where we are. Its not about what individuals think we could or should have done this season. Its about sticking with the club through the good times and the bad. I don't consider being permanently top half in the Championship as representing footballing perjury. Not when clubs like Sheffield Utd and Portsmouth occupy League One and Two places yet they still get bigger crowds than we do.

I just don't understand how people seriously expect the club to even compete at this level, never mind try to get promoted, if the fans don't go to games and support the club. Then if/when the club sells its best players to reduce losses more people will complain that the club isn't showing the necessary ambition.

Look at Leeds last week. They have been through worse - much worse - than us over a much longer period of time and are still in a worse state than us, yet they can rely on 20,000-25,000 a week regardless of who the owner is or who the manager is.

Look at the abject seasons at Bolton, Reading, Fulham etc. I'm sure they would have preferred to have been in our position this season than fighting relegation, yet you can bet all those shift considerably more season tickets than we do this summer.

Sitting at home repeatedly complaining about Bowyer and Venkys might make some feel better. But it isn't doing the club or the players any good whatsoever. Infact its harming them.

[ABBEY]

FANS FAULT AGAIN ..

[Rover_Shaun]

I just don't understand how people seriously expect the club to even compete at this level, never mind try to get promoted, if the fans don't go to games and support the club

Bournemouth. Burnley. Debunked. Next!

[Andyblue2]

Sitting at home repeatedly complaining about Venkys might make some feel better. But it isn't doing the club or the players any good whatsoever. Infact its harming them.

Short memories. Shall we just accept it mate?

[JHRover]

FANS FAULT AGAIN ..

I suppose it depends on your definition of 'fan' or 'supporter'. My definition of a 'fan' is someone who actively 'supports' a club e.g. buys tickets and goes to games.

[Mattyblue]

Comparing us to Leeds is a non-starter, they are the only club in one of the UK's biggest cities, with a massive hinterland to draw from, their 25000 is nothing to write home about.

On to your main point, we are still seeing the effects of HOW we went down, the 13000 we see each week, I believe would be 15000/16000 without the horrendous Kean debacle, however we do get 13000 and that isn't going to go in an upward direcction for as long as we bumble around in mid table.

Gordon is correct, we have devalued our product in the prices we charge for STs, I can remember him being one of the few dissenting voices back in 2009 when John Williams launched the 'Take back Ewood' inititative.

It was fantastic seeing a packed Ewood back then, however the business plan was to sell c20000 STs at £200 with a PL TV deal behind us, not selling 10000 on a FL income.

But of course, something is only worth what people are prepared to pay and there is obviously no market left to sell STs at £400 to Blackburn Rovers fans.

Therefore, it was vital that with these horrendous looking figures, that we gave it a go at getting promoted- yet we have appointed a succession of poor managers and wasted the chance.

[JHRover]

Short memories. Shall we just accept it mate?

Accept what?

I accept we're a Championship club and that after what has gone on here it might be a long hard road back to the top division.

I accept Venkys own the club and without their finances the club would probably cease to exist.

I accept that any club needs as many people as possible supporting it.

I accept my role at the club is to stick with it through thick and thin. Do 'my bit' by going to games and supporting the players in blue and white.

I hated Steve Kean with a passion, yet wouldn't let that monster stop me supporting my club. I don't hate Gary Bowyer. I accept he has flaws and we could have done better this season. We could also have done worse. That's life.

[ABBEY]

Accept what?

I accept we're a Championship club and that after what has gone on here it might be a long hard road back to the top division.

I accept Venkys own the club and without their finances the club would probably cease to exist.

I accept that any club needs as many people as possible supporting it.

I accept my role at the club is to stick with it through thick and thin. Do 'my bit' by going to games and supporting the players in blue and white.

I hated Steve Kean with a passion, yet wouldn't let that monster stop me supporting my club. I don't hate Gary Bowyer. I accept he has flaws and we could have done better this season. We could also have done worse. That's life.

Clap clap ... You hated kean but the slumdogs wouldn't sack him

I accept venkys ARE killing us with everyday of more debt added.

Last person I asked this too refused to answer

What debt level do you think it will take for you to want the idiots out ?