Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Again, I know he said that! I have never once said that he didnt or even that we havent offered him a new contract. Im sure we have.

And no, nobody knows the exact wage that was offered, so stop being pedantic. But it was clearly not sufficient enough for him to agree to sign it.

Merely offering a player a new deal doesnt make the club automatically blameless. It clearly wasnt a good enough offer.

The way you posted it's like you knew what we offered and it's was poor offer. Clearly you don't. 

His interview recently suggests he thinks he can get a move to PL club. Abit too ambitious, I think his best move would be to stay here and being a key player for our team. I think he move aboard or to a club like Norwich or Ipswich will be his next move

[roversfan99]

No, I don't know for sure. But its a pretty fair assumption and one shared by a lot of people. Hence why nothing he has been offered has been satisfactory enough to get him to sign.

His best move wouldnt be to stay here if he feels that the offer is poor, and if other clubs are offering much more competitive wages. Hes also seen here repeated times that even if the club starts a season really strongly, the owners lack any ambition to actually achieve anything so it repeatedly crumbles post christmas.

[Mercer]

Imo, Dolan is a legend In his own mind only with a vastly overrated opinion of his own abilities.

He will not see the PL.  He has nothing that distinguishes him - IMO, a lack of both pace and football intelligence are seriously limiting factors.

This situation has been coming for close on 2 years.  Do I blame the lad or his advisers, no.  He's run his contract down and can now look forward to a big signing on fee and a big new wage - if ĥe looks after his money, he will virtually be financially secure for life.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

No, I don't know for sure. But its a pretty fair assumption and one shared by a lot of people. Hence why nothing he has been offered has been satisfactory enough to get him to sign.

His best move wouldnt be to stay here if he feels that the offer is poor, and if other clubs are offering much more competitive wages. Hes also seen here repeated times that even if the club starts a season really strongly, the owners lack any ambition to actually achieve anything so it repeatedly crumbles post christmas.

That's your opinion not a fact. Dolan staying here where he would be key players and first team regular I think would be his best move. 

Lets see where he ends up

[roversfan99]

I never said it was a fact, but its a fair assumption shared by most.

Easy to say that hes best off staying when you cant look past your personal bias. If we arent offering him a competitive wage and he can earn significantly more elsewhere, at a club with actual ambition, it would be a strange decision to avoid that sort of challenge in favour of staying comfortable at a club with no ambition of promotion.

[frosty]

Seeing which level or club Dolan is playing at next really is the least of our concerns and it's not some kind of win for Rovers if, say, he only joins a mid-table Championship club. The problem is we're losing - for nothing - a player who, while he blows hot and cold like almost everyone else, has been a regular here for years and is a proven Championship performer. 

Good on him for saying he wants to test himself at a higher level. It's a shame that thinking isn't aligned throughout the club. In fact if I had to bet on who'd kick a ball in the Premier League first between Dolan and a Venky-owned Rovers I know where my money would be going.....

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said it was a fact, but its a fair assumption shared by most.

Easy to say that hes best off staying when you cant look past your personal bias. If we arent offering him a competitive wage and he can earn significantly more elsewhere, at a club with actual ambition, it would be a strange decision to avoid that sort of challenge in favour of staying comfortable at a club with no ambition of promotion.

Surely that depends on which club he signs for? You assume it will be better club than us. 

You assume we haven't him a decent enough wage package. 

Depends what he wants and it's sound like he wants a PL move which I don't see happening for him

[47er]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Surely that depends on which club he signs for? You assume it will be better club than us.

I assume it will be a better club too---on the grounds that there are very few worse clubs right now.

We are toxic.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, 47er said:

I assume it will be a better club too---on the grounds that there are very few worse clubs right now.

We are toxic.

Not many players will sign for us given an alternative option.

[Exiled_Rover]

4 hours ago, frosty said:

Seeing which level or club Dolan is playing at next really is the least of our concerns and it's not some kind of win for Rovers if, say, he only joins a mid-table Championship club. The problem is we're losing - for nothing - a player who, while he blows hot and cold like almost everyone else, has been a regular here for years and is a proven Championship performer. 

Good on him for saying he wants to test himself at a higher level. It's a shame that thinking isn't aligned throughout the club. In fact if I had to bet on who'd kick a ball in the Premier League first between Dolan and a Venky-owned Rovers I know where my money would be going.....

We get a tribunal fee if he joins an English team. 

[Mercer]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Surely that depends on which club he signs for? You assume it will be better club than us. 

You assume we haven't him a decent enough wage package. 

Depends what he wants and it's sound like he wants a PL move which I don't see happening for him

A better club?  The bar is set incredibly low on that score.  Seriously, are there any Championship clubs with worse owners / operational management?

If we'd offered him a "decent enough wage packet" we wouldn't be in the current situation.

Agree, he won't get a PL move but are there really any less progressive or ambitious Championship clubs than Rovers?  I think not.

Again Chaddy, I think you are trying to defend the indefensible.  Wake up and smell the coffee.

[bluebruce]

13 hours ago, Mercer said:

Imo, Dolan is a legend In his own mind only with a vastly overrated opinion of his own abilities.

He will not see the PL.  He has nothing that distinguishes him - IMO, a lack of both pace and football intelligence are seriously limiting factors.

This situation has been coming for close on 2 years.  Do I blame the lad or his advisers, no.  He's run his contract down and can now look forward to a big signing on fee and a big new wage - if ĥe looks after his money, he will virtually be financially secure for life.

I've never once seen Dolan brag about his ability. Actually he seems quite a grounded and humble lad.

A higher pay deal and getting out of this circus, as well as escaping certain sections of the fans who give him an undue amount of stick, is bound to appeal. That doesn't make him arrogant.

[MarkBRFC]

If he think's he gets stick here, wait until he signs for a "city" club or the like.

He won't know what's hit him.

[Mattyblue]

Does make me laugh when you see replies to club facebook posts going ‘we have the worst fans going, never get behind the players’.

Aye, ok. Our lot don’t know they’re born.

Edited 20 hours ago by Mattyblue

[Wheelton Blue]

The worst 'stick' I've ever heard Dolan get is 'FFS Dolan' mutterings when he's lost the ball 3 times in 2 minutes.

For the vast majority of the time he gets nothing but encouragement.

[Tomphil2]

He'll find it very interesting at Boro or Celtic when he hits one of his bad runs that's for sure and if i was Gestede i'd be advising him football wise the grass mostly isn't greener when you leave Ewood.

Funnily enough Villa fans tried to lynch him and Boro fans weren't enthralled either.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The worst 'stick' I've ever heard Dolan get is 'FFS Dolan' mutterings when he's lost the ball 3 times in 2 minutes.

For the vast majority of the time he gets nothing but encouragement.

Talking about online.

[MarkBRFC]

11 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Talking about online.

Again, wait until he plays for a club with a "bigger" following.

If he think's what he gets, even online here is stick then I pray for him if he ends up at one of the Scottish two, or a Sheffield Utd, Norwich etc.

[47er]

4 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The worst 'stick' I've ever heard Dolan get is 'FFS Dolan' mutterings when he's lost the ball 3 times in 2 minutes.

For the vast majority of the time he gets nothing but encouragement.

Exactly so, I'd say he was popular. There are fans who disparage him but rarely during a game. More on discussion groups like this one---you know who you are!!

[M_B]

On 02/06/2025 at 11:12, Mercer said:

Imo, Dolan is a legend In his own mind only with a vastly overrated opinion of his own abilities.

He will not see the PL.  He has nothing that distinguishes him - IMO, a lack of both pace and football intelligence are seriously limiting factors.

This situation has been coming for close on 2 years.  Do I blame the lad or his advisers, no.  He's run his contract down and can now look forward to a big signing on fee and a big new wage - if ĥe looks after his money, he will virtually be financially secure for life.

Reading your first line there, where do you get that opinion from ?

I can't say I've heard him say anything to support it, then again I don't go on twitter or any of em. 

[Blue blood]

On 02/06/2025 at 11:52, chaddyrovers said:

Surely that depends on which club he signs for? You assume it will be better club than us. 

You assume we haven't him a decent enough wage package. 

Depends what he wants and it's sound like he wants a PL move which I don't see happening for him

Well unless you ignore facts most if not all clubs in the championship are better than us if we are going off any useful metric like professionalism or ambition. 

I think the word educated guess rather than assumption is a good way of putting we haven't offered enough wages. Whilst no pme knows for sure - although that uncertainty can't be used as a defence of the club - all the evidence suggests that they won't have. 

You have to ignore a lot of facts and history to imply the club is not messing up on this one. 

[dallydally]

3 hours ago, M_B said:

Reading your first line there, where do you get that opinion from ?

I can't say I've heard him say anything to support it, then again I don't go on twitter or any of em. 

The way he plays. Full of showmanship but 90% of the time no end product. He IS a legend in his own mind!