Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[AAK]

4 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

 Chaddy seems keen, I am scratching my head as to why 

He just missed an absolute sitter, looked a reyt donkey like he always does.

[AAK]

4 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Anel with two goals tonight. Think we missed out on a good one there 😞

 

 

Yep, their fans, talk sport and sky sports saying he’s the best buy of the season and has been excellent, gutted.

[BankEnd Rover]

4 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Anel with two goals tonight. Think we missed out on a good one there 😞

 

 

Lads heads above anyone… He will be snapped up by the big boys come this time next year…Maybe even January…

[simongarnerisgod]

lenihan hooked after 55 minutes😁,replaced by the player he was supposed to replace fry

[Theaxe15]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

lenihan hooked after 55 minutes😁,replaced by the player he was supposed to replace fry

He was injured

[Sparks Rover]

8 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Anel with two goals tonight. Think we missed out on a good one there 😞

 

 

Someone needs sacking....we paid same for oompah loompah sammy

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Theaxe15 said:

He was injured

whats up with him,apart from having his **** enlarged by the watford front two

[davulsukur]

2 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

He was injured

Pretty sure he had the armband on as well.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, callumrovers said:

Think about it like this -

Leicester want a sale and are reluctant to loan him out due to potentially him leaving for nothing. Rovers don’t want to pay a fee now and want to work it into the finances for next season. 
 

Agreement reached on a loan to buy. Both parties are happy then.

it’s not rocket science.

I give up. 

He isn't their player by then!

Who does the money go to?

Charity?

[davulsukur]

10 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Anel with two goals tonight. Think we missed out on a good one there 😞

 

 

Definitely looking that way, yeah.

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Someone needs sacking....we paid same for oompah loompah sammy

No we didn't AND he's on massive wages. 

[Guest]

Lenihan having an awful time of it at boro. Search his name on Twitter, not one of them rate him.

[Tugay-is-God]

26 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

If he scores 20 goals and enjoys his time here then it doesn't matter if another club offers £300m for him, we could still get him for £5m. 

Won't matter if he's enjoyed his time here if Sheffield United come in and offer double the wages we can. 

Anyway, it's all hypothetical, I'd just take the 20 goals!

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Even if he signs a new deal with Leicester before joining Rovers that would tend to suggest that they want to keep him in the long run.

Therefore they won't be prepared to put an option to purchase at an agreed fee in and in the very unlikely event he does well his time here will come to an end when the loan period expires and we'll be priced out of a permanent move.

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I give up. 

He isn't their player by then!

Who does the money go to?

Charity?

He's signing / signed a new contract with Leicester.

[RVRVRS]

2 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Smells like bullshit

Bit rude

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's signing / signed a new contract with Leicester.

OK fair enough, see above then.

Can only be a loan in that case.

[RoverRB]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Even if he signs a new deal with Leicester before joining Rovers that would tend to suggest that they want to keep him in the long run.

Therefore they won't be prepared to put an option to purchase at an agreed fee in and in the very unlikely event he does well his time here will come to an end when the loan period expires and we'll be priced out of a permanent move.

No it means that they can make the price higher.

[xtp]

12 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Someone needs sacking....we paid same for oompah loompah sammy

Who needs sacking? 

It speaks well that we went in for him. Good decision by GB and JDT to try to push the boat out. If another team with parachute payments outbid us, that's not on them. 

[callumrovers]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

OK fair enough, see above then.

Can only be a loan in that case.

Why can’t Leicester put a clause in the loan deal? Regardless of if he signs a new deal or not. It would be a clause between Rovers and Leicester and totally separate to his contract situation.Like many others have pointed out, if he was to do well whilst on loan who’s to say he’s sign for us if he was a free agent at the end of it, gives us an insurance policy. Still think it’s a obligation to purchase.

 

[JHRover]

The 'loan with option to buy' thing is just a red herring. It's a loan. Wish we'd just accept and be honest about that. It's as though the 'option to buy' thing persuades people into believing that there is a longer term strategy in play.

Reality is he ticks the boxes - available, cheap

I think that's all there is to it here. We keep hearing about this 'loan now, buy later' thing as though it is some crafty ploy by Rovers to roll the costs over into future FFP cycles or grab a bargain now and decide whether to pay later. Don't think we are in a position to deal with things like that.

Don't know anything about the lad, his record at Pompey reasonable, but I'd have hoped for something a bit more proven and imaginative than this.

[Miller11]

Hirst may well have an option to buy (like Zeefuik), but it certainly won’t be an obligation to buy (like Brereton). If we were committed to buying him we’d just be buying him now. The only reason we didn’t get Brereton immediately and had to do the initial loan was because that season the loan window was longer than the transfer window, and the deal happened late.

[islander200]

6 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Hirst may well have an option to buy (like Zeefuik), but it certainly won’t be an obligation to buy (like Brereton). If we were committed to buying him we’d just be buying him now. The only reason we didn’t get Brereton immediately and had to do the initial loan was because that season the loan window was longer than the transfer window, and the deal happened late.

Well not if Leicester are wanting £5 million to sell him on a permanent deal now?They may feel another loan and similar success in the championship as he had last season with Pompey would lead him to being a £5 million player 

It's certainly plausible for Rovers to have made a cash bid Lower than that figure and this deal has been worked out as a try before you buy

[bluebruce]

18 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Even if he signs a new deal with Leicester before joining Rovers that would tend to suggest that they want to keep him in the long run.

Therefore they won't be prepared to put an option to purchase at an agreed fee in and in the very unlikely event he does well his time here will come to an end when the loan period expires and we'll be priced out of a permanent move.

It does make sense. They don't want to lose him on a free and are protecting their asset. I know that seems surreal to Rovers fans after this summer though.

They likely don't think he's going to be good enough to ever break their team, but they know he is worth money, and could be worth more after a decent season in the Championship. Let's say our offer now is about £3 mill and they think they can get £5 mill for him, but we won't budge. So they extend his deal, loan him out with a £5 mill sale clause which we can choose to pay if we're convinced by next summer or whenever the clause expires. They make £2 mill more on him this way than by just selling him. Theoretical numbers of course. If we don't want to pay at £5 mill because we are broke, another club perhaps pays that next summer, or even more. Or, he doesn't do well enough for all that and they loan him out again in the hope he does.

[Miller11]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Well not if Leicester are wanting £5 million to sell him on a permanent deal now?They may feel another loan and similar success in the championship as he had last season with Pompey would lead him to being a £5 million player 

It's certainly plausible for Rovers to have made a cash bid Lower than that figure and this deal has been worked out as a try before you buy

But we wouldn’t be trying before buying if we were obligated to buy him, we’d be performing a pointless exercise.

Having an option to buy makes sense for all the reasons you state.