Adam Wharton

[roversfan99]

44 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why change something that is working. You need runners off Kane. Rogers is that sort of number 10. Kane looks fitter and tactical we look better. 

Its what Tuchel said pre match yesterday and he is right team must come first. 

So if the first game was tomorrow in the world cup what your starting 11 and just for total clarity everyone is fit? Its a open question to everyone. 

I could name my world cup squad right now fitness and form permitting. 

But its working in dispatching crap teams comfortably. It doesnt mean that the exact same team should play in the world cup, although for some reason you keep parroting Tuchel and then putting Hall in randomly.

I dont know for sure what the team would be. Pickford in goal obviously. James and O'Reilly full back. Guehi and probably Stones CB. Rice and probably Wharton in midfield. Saka wide right. Im not convinced by either of the left wingers but appreciate we need a natural wide man, so probably Rashford as Gordon has been awful all season and has poor end product. Kane up top.

The number 10 position is the hard one. You keep saying team first as if I am proposing to shoe horn loads of players in unfamiliar positions when not one of the players I propose is out of position. Its between Bellingham, Foden and Palmer and would likely be one of the first 2. As it stands, I would say Foden but flip of a coin.

Pickford / James Stones Guehi OReilly / Rice Wharton / Saka Foden Rashford / Kane

Now I dont see what about that team is imbalanced.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

He sits in front of the defence and dictates the game. He is a holding midfielder.

He is deep lay midfielder playmaker. 

A holding midfielder is someone who protect the defence from the opposition 

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But its working in dispatching crap teams comfortably. It doesnt mean that the exact same team should play in the world cup, although for some reason you keep parroting Tuchel

Maybe actually to him and the fact he will ruthless in picking the team. 

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

and then putting Hall in randomly.

I think Hall is the best English left back. 

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont know for sure what the team would be. Pickford in goal obviously. James and O'Reilly full back. Guehi and probably Stones CB. Rice and probably Wharton in midfield. Saka wide right. Im not convinced by either of the left wingers but appreciate we need a natural wide man, so probably Rashford as Gordon has been awful all season and has poor end product. Kane up top.

The number 10 position is the hard one. You keep saying team first as if I am proposing to shoe horn loads of players in unfamiliar positions when not one of the players I propose is out of position. Its between Bellingham, Foden and Palmer and would likely be one of the first 2. As it stands, I would say Foden but flip of a coin.

Pickford / James Stones Guehi OReilly / Rice Wharton / Saka Foden Rashford / Kane

Now I dont see what about that team is imbalanced.

Finally answer a simple question. 

Cos Foden isn't going to run beyond Kane like Rogers or Bellingham would. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

He is deep lay midfielder playmaker. 

A holding midfielder is someone who protect the defence from the opposition 

We're not the Judean People's Front, we're the People's Front of Judea.

They're different types of player so its fairly pointless comparing them like for like. All players have slightly different attributes. If you ran a poll I reckon 90% of neutral fans would say Wharton was the better player and arguably Anderson only got into the side in the first place because Wharton was injured.

On the other hand - you can't blame Tuchel for not changing something which is currently working. I do have full confidence in him where the opposite was true under Southgate.

Anderson might get injured at some point though and/or Tuchel might change things round slightly and/or there may come a time in the Tournament  against better opposition where Wharton's unique talents are required.

We'll have to wait and see.

[MarkBRFC]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25621359.adam-wharton-makes-competitive-england-debut-serbia/

Looks like Wharton has to start a game for England for venkys to get there hands on anymore cash.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe actually to him and the fact he will ruthless in picking the team. 

I think Hall is the best English left back. 

Finally answer a simple question. 

Cos Foden isn't going to run beyond Kane like Rogers or Bellingham would. 

Are those stats you showed for Anderson which made you conclude that he has been the best midfielder in the league, comparisons against other Forest players or against midfielders across the league? Or do you not know?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos Foden isn't going to run beyond Kane like Rogers or Bellingham would. 

How did he manage to score 27 in all comps for City season before last then? Im sure they weren't all 30 yard screamers.

It's a matter of personal preference really. Myself, I can't get my head round any manager picking a team without Foden in it.

However I'm getting a very 1966 vibe off Tuchel. Sir Alf chose a system and picked the 11 players who best suited playing to that system rather than necessarily picking the best 11 players in their individual positions and then choosing a style of play to suit them.