Premier League

[oneandycrawford]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

BOURNEMOUTH have sold three defenders to

Liverpool

Real Madrid

PSG

this summer for a combined 150m!!!

And then have the sheer nerve to reinvest some of that in new players. Anybody would think there is a model to follow there. Unfortunately our illustrious owners seem to only understand the first part.

[roverandout]

Isak refusing to play for Newcastle again.  Player power is now out of control.  If it had been any club other than Newcastle I would have felt sorry for them

[RoverDom]

Its one thing to push for a move but it gets to a point that as the buying club I'd not want that kind of character round the place for fear that he'll just down tools at any given moment. 

Of course as Rovers fans it would be a novelty if there was a player willing to go on strike to join us. 

[philipl]

14 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Its one thing to push for a move but it gets to a point that as the buying club I'd not want that kind of character round the place for fear that he'll just down tools at any given moment. 

Of course as Rovers fans it would be a novelty if there was a player willing to go on strike to join us. 

It has happened - can't remember who when at the moment.

[roverandout]

12 minutes ago, philipl said:

It has happened - can't remember who when at the moment.

Robbie savage?

[RoverDom]

30 minutes ago, philipl said:

It has happened - can't remember who when at the moment.

Presumably not in venky era? 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, roverandout said:

Isak refusing to play for Newcastle again.  Player power is now out of control.  If it had been any club other than Newcastle I would have felt sorry for them

Why do you have a thing about Newcastle? Id rather see them win a few things than the usual suspects - especially Man Ure.

I wish when Liverpool had come in for Isaak (sp?) the FFP and PSR rules had permitted them to flex their financial muscle, tell Liverpool to fuck off, and put a £250 m counter bid in for Salah on a £1m p.w. tax free salary just to piss them off. And then if Salah said yes, pull out at the last minute.

Isaak's half way through a long term deal. He'd be grateful for the security of that contract if he picked up a bad injury. If Newcastle dont want to sell that SHOULD be the end of it.

Edited 7 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[roverandout]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why do you have a thing about Newcastle? Id rather see them win a few things than the usual suspects - especially Man Ure.

I wish when Liverpool had come in for Isaak (sp?) the FFP and PSR rules had permitted them to flex their financial muscle, tell Liverpool to fuck off, and put a £250 m counter bid in for Salah on a £1m p.w. tax free salary just to piss them off. And then if Salah said yes, pull out at the last minute.

Isaak's half way through a long term deal. He'd be grateful for the security of that contract if he picked up a bad injury. If Newcastle dont want to sell that SHOULD be the end of it.

Just they think they're bigger than they are

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

Just they think they're bigger than they are

Im not sure that's the case, prior to the League Cup win at least I think they had a sort of gallows humour about their relative lack of success over the years.

Same with Citeh fans, most of them aren't too big for their boots to remember they were playing York not that long ago.

United fans on the other hand........

[RTM08]

6 hours ago, roverandout said:

Isak refusing to play for Newcastle again.  Player power is now out of control.  If it had been any club other than Newcastle I would have felt sorry for them

Not sure if it was posted elsewhere but I saw this last week. If this goes in the direction the players want I expect a lot of clubs are going to be completely unable to compete. Of course for now it is very much up in the air. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy5prnpy142o

[speeeeeeedie]

6 hours ago, roverandout said:

Isak refusing to play for Newcastle again.  Player power is now out of control.  If it had been any club other than Newcastle I would have felt sorry for them

I have no sympathy at all for football clubs. They routinely screw over players. Not the high profile ones, but those at the bottom trying to make it.

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Isaak's half way through a long term deal. He'd be grateful for the security of that contract if he picked up a bad injury. If Newcastle dont want to sell that SHOULD be the end of it.

If what I read earlier is to be believed Newcastle told Isak last summer that they'd negotiate a new deal in the summer of 2025. They decided not to. Isak also allegedly told Howe twice at the end of the season that he wanted to leave. 

[Hasta]

17 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

 

If what I read earlier is to be believed Newcastle told Isak last summer that they'd negotiate a new deal in the summer of 2025. They decided not to. Isak also allegedly told Howe twice at the end of the season that he wanted to leave. 

 Not sure if that’s meant to portray some kind of balance.

Newcastle committed to pay Isak £6mill a year for the next 6 years when he signed,  even if he turned out to be a flop. If rumours are correct he now wants £15mill a year then I wouldn’t negotiate either.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Hasta

[speeeeeeedie]

14 minutes ago, Hasta said:

 Not sure if that’s meant to portray some kind of balance.

Newcastle committed to pay Isak £6mill a year for the next 6 years when he signed,  even if he turned out to be a flop. If rumours are correct he now wants £15mill a year then I wouldn’t negotiate either.

 

My point being that the club said they'd do something and didn't follow through with it; something football clubs do all the time. Contract values are eye popping to you and I but it's the going rate for top class players. The amounts you cite should have that context. Ashley Cole's line in his book about him almost crashing his car on hearing that Arsenal were offering him "only" £55k a week grates most people. However, to him it was a ow ball amount. To him, one of the world's best full back's playing for a top Prem team should get more. 

Man U laid off hundreds of employees yet find the cash to pay £150m+ on new strikers. 

Barcelona tried to boot their team captain so they could sign Rashford. 

Sheff Wednesday are on the brink. Rovers offer peanuts to established players. Go back further. There used to be a maximum wage. Who did that benefit? Clubs used to hold player registrations even after contracts expired. How did that help?

It's a tale as old as time; bosses v. workers. Yet in this case the bosses don't have all the control as the workers are a ridiculously finite resource who cannot be easily replaced, unlike most of us.

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, speeeeeeedie said:

My point being that the club said they'd do something and didn't follow through with it

"Let's talk about a new contract "

"Ok , I want no less than £300k a week"

"Fuck off"

Is probably how that went.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta