Premier League

[Herbie6590]

 

[arbitro]

Burnley defended ever so well against an impotent Liverpool but to down to a last minute penalty. I chuckled when the Neanderthals were singing 'Premier League, corrupt as f***' for what was a clear penalty.

And Liverpool played the game at testimonial pace.

[Herbie6590]

13 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Burnley defended ever so well against an impotent Liverpool but to down to a last minute penalty. I chuckled when the Neanderthals were singing 'Premier League, corrupt as f***' for what was a clear penalty.

And Liverpool played the game at testimonial pace.

Penny for Ashley Barnes’s thoughts on that handball…👀

[arbitro]

1 minute ago, Herbie6590 said:

Penny for Ashley Barnes’s thoughts on that handball…👀

I was actually going to write what they got away with in the Championship. 😃

 

[chaddyrovers]

Liverpool don't look the same team as last season, so slow. Guess the international break hasn't helped them either

Burnley very solid at the back

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

If you’ve got to play the big clubs now is the time to do it. Before they get their new signings integrated into the machine.

[speeeeeeedie]

Another loss for an impotent Man U. If what Lee Dixon said on NBC commentary was correct Amorim has won 8 of his 30 odd league games in charge. A blind man can see that his 3-4-3 system doesn't work but he's sticking with it. His defenders can't cover the ground. His midfield players are all on islands, and his strikers are isolated. Also, most of his players aren't any good either which compounds the situation.

Ratcliffe may have to lay off a few more staff if Man U's form doesn't improve.

Burnley defended very well against Liverpool. Parker played for the draw and almost got it. Daft from Hannibal, but you play good teams you have to concentrate for every minute.

Edited September 14 by speeeeeeedie

[DE.]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Liverpool don't look the same team as last season, so slow. Guess the international break hasn't helped them either

I agree, yet they are top with 4 wins out of 4, having already beaten Arsenal and Newcastle. If they get into their stride it's going to be another cakewalk for them this season. How did the rest of the division fall so far behind? 

[rigger]

6 minutes ago, DE. said:

I agree, yet they are top with 4 wins out of 4, having already beaten Arsenal and Newcastle. If they get into their stride it's going to be another cakewalk for them this season. How did the rest of the division fall so far behind? 

Three teams in claret and blue to be relegated ?

[davulsukur]

[Ossydave]

The dingle booing just summed them up, fair enough dodgy decisions do happen over the course of a season, the penalty decision wasn't one. Absolutely blatant.

They're wanking on about their defensive performance but is that really what they want all season, to be "entertained" sticking everyone behind the ball all game.

Suppose the money makes it easier to take like.

[chaddyrovers]

10 hours ago, DE. said:

I agree, yet they are top with 4 wins out of 4, having already beaten Arsenal and Newcastle. If they get into their stride it's going to be another cakewalk for them this season. How did the rest of the division fall so far behind? 

The league will develop and i think we have 4 teams chase for the league

[Cherry Blue]

2 hours ago, Ossydave said:

The dingle booing just summed them up, fair enough dodgy decisions do happen over the course of a season, the penalty decision wasn't one. Absolutely blatant.

They're wanking on about their defensive performance but is that really what they want all season, to be "entertained" sticking everyone behind the ball all game.

Suppose the money makes it easier to take like.

He only came on 70th min so his instructions/concentration was to see the game out. Keep your hands behind your back was a must but he missed that one. 

[Ossydave]

14 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

He only came on 70th min so his instructions/concentration was to see the game out. Keep your hands behind your back was a must but he missed that one. 

Did you see Parkers interview? He seems astounded that handball would be given when the hand is in an unnatural position and said its something they'd have to work on going forward, like its a new thing. Suppose he couldn't really come out and say Hannibal is a tool though, which is the reality....

[oneandycrawford]

8 hours ago, Ossydave said:

The dingle booing just summed them up, fair enough dodgy decisions do happen over the course of a season, the penalty decision wasn't one. Absolutely blatant.

They're wanking on about their defensive performance but is that really what they want all season, to be "entertained" sticking everyone behind the ball all game.

Suppose the money makes it easier to take like.

Will be interesting to see how they play in the 'must win' games against their fellow relegation contenders. They were hardly 'entertainers' last season despite co-walking the league with Leeds. I guess you have to play to your strengths - particularly if the alternative is Kompany / Martin style!

The problem with the ultra-safe style is that, at some point, elements of the fanbase will want to see more entertaining football (as we saw here with Allerdyce), and then the club has to decide whether to take the risks.

I used to doubt that the smaller clubs could survive any other way but the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth have shown it can be done by good - flexible! - coaching and mixing up your play to suit. You don't need a 'philosophy' - just know the game and how to adapt, as Frank and Iraola seem to do.

Your point about the money is a good one if we are to believe what we are told about the financial position over there in Yorkshire.

[speeeeeeedie]

10 minutes ago, oneandycrawford said:

Will be interesting to see how they play in the 'must win' games against their fellow relegation contenders. They were hardly 'entertainers' last season despite co-walking the league with Leeds. I guess you have to play to your strengths - particularly if the alternative is Kompany / Martin style!

The problem with the ultra-safe style is that, at some point, elements of the fanbase will want to see more entertaining football (as we saw here with Allerdyce), and then the club has to decide whether to take the risks.

I used to doubt that the smaller clubs could survive any other way but the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth have shown it can be done by good - flexible! - coaching and mixing up your play to suit. You don't need a 'philosophy' - just know the game and how to adapt, as Frank and Iraola seem to do.

Your point about the money is a good one if we are to believe what we are told about the financial position over there in Yorkshire.

37 points will most likely be enough to avoid relegation. Parker's thinking is that if I can nick 1 here and there off the big boys and get 3 points in their "must win" fixtures Burnley will have a chance of staying up. 

It's a tricky spot to be in. Parker's job is to manage a football team an ultimately stay in the division. If he does that he'll keep his job, get more money, and perhaps move on up either with Burnley or elsewhere. If the football on offer becomes pragmatic and dare say it, boring, fans will get agitated.

As you say, finding the balance is hard. I think Parker is on the right track. Bore the life out of the big boys and do whatever is needed to stay up. A second Premier League season is more likely to beget a third.  

Edited September 15 by speeeeeeedie

[DeeCee]

3 hours ago, speeeeeeedie said:

37 points will most likely be enough to avoid relegation. Parker's thinking is that if I can nick 1 here and there off the big boys and get 3 points in their "must win" fixtures Burnley will have a chance of staying up. 

It's a tricky spot to be in. Parker's job is to manage a football team an ultimately stay in the division. If he does that he'll keep his job, get more money, and perhaps move on up either with Burnley or elsewhere. If the football on offer becomes pragmatic and dare say it, boring, fans will get agitated.

As you say, finding the balance is hard. I think Parker is on the right track. Bore the life out of the big boys and do whatever is needed to stay up. A second Premier League season is more likely to beget a third.  

Big Sam mindset, it can work.

[windymiller7]

15 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Big Sam mindset, it can work.

Just don't get walloped at OT! 😅

[chaddyrovers]

Sunderland very impressive today, first time I've seen live. 

Well organised team. spent well

[K-Hod]

Arsenal going ultra defensive in a big match again. 1-0 down after 9 minutes.

Going well….

[K-Hod]

Gut feel with Arteta, he’s not ruthless enough to win the league, 3 defensive mids at home, what the?

No creativity in the middle, slow and ponderous build up.

Think Madueke has looked really good at times though, good move for him to go there.
I guess they’ve Saka on the bench, along with other options, but with a different manager, I reckon they’d be able to go a bit further as a club.

[chaddyrovers]

Very surprised how defensive City went so early in the game. Wouldn't have taken Haaland off at all. Thought Pep got that wrong. Pep is building a different type of team with less focus on possession and better transition team 

I thought Arteta picked the wrong starting eleven cos I would have picked Eze in place of Merino and Martinelli for Trossard